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Author Topic: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - GAME OVER - Mafia Team Murder Victory?  (Read 16667 times)

Imp

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D3- One Down
« Reply #735 on: December 14, 2024, 12:04:22 am »

My thoughts.

OMG I hope EP is town, which seems likely.  I am so sorry if EP is anti-town.  I can imagine it but I really don't feel it.  Nor do I feel strong sureness EP is town, it's reasoning alone, and sufficient.

I think we should elim Jack over FoU, in part because of that 1.5 vote power.  We have more room and options if we have to kill both Jack and FoU if we take Jack first.

If we're wrong about Jack, we can handle FoU easier than we can handle being wrong about FoU and having to handle Jack.

That's true even if Jack and FoU are teamed, which I don't think is likely, but Jack can't be ressed today, he's not wagerable (Well, he's not listed as wagerable, I didn't ask NQT to confirm).

Toony claimed to have 1.1 vote before death, EP has the same (we have seen EP's in votecounts).

I think we have to prevent a res of anti-town and ensure we don't have someone with 1.5 votes to throw around, before or after res.

I don't believe Jack's most recent reads:

Reads list of the living players:
Toonyman: Seems to be working hard to solve the game
Imp: The fact that Imp died and resurrected makes me think Imp is probably town
FallacyofUrist: I dunno, so few opportunities to study Town!Fallacy.
Elephant Parade: I dunno. Elephant usually is fairly reserved as town, and I am unsure if I have seen as scum
Maximum Spin: All the arrows seem to be pointing to Maximum Spin.

My apologies for not being around to help much in this game

In particular my res making me probably town seems like a bad reason to think I'm town.  Toony did seem towny to me, I had some doubts but ehh, towny-likely.  The other reads not sure what to say.

However, FBYOR6.

Jack was my key-in-lock there, and I was terrified he was cult gonna convert me.  I studied him D1 so much.

I saw reasonable hints of that early D1 here, the feel was more FBYOR6 than it was Max's Supernormal D2+.  But not since.  This Jack's not the same as either of those, but I think we better elim Jack (may I be right about EP omg).

Open to discuss, and still considering, plus wager issues.

I'm not ready for a hammer.

EP, do you intend to handle the wager-res, or do you disagree with me that only one town should work on it to help reduce the odds of a tie and no res?

I can see reasons to take either path, I can imagine you might too.  let me know if you think we should free-for-all, or ensure we don't conflict.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #736 on: December 14, 2024, 01:36:02 am »

Yes I'm going to wager on Jim. Nobody else wager please.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #737 on: December 14, 2024, 10:49:02 am »

Actually, my abilities have changed, so I got no clue what I can or can't do right now.

I don't think that I have a daykill anymore, but I'll ask NQT to confirm.

Jack, there's lists of questions not answered.

Why didn't you kill D1, what your actual full claim is.  Why you think/thought my being ressed means I'm probably town, especially before we saw flips that could explain how I got ressed.  Probably more.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #738 on: December 14, 2024, 11:33:06 am »

Actually, my abilities have changed, so I got no clue what I can or can't do right now.

I don't think that I have a daykill anymore, but I'll ask NQT to confirm.
Are you saying that the PM you received was not perfectly clear about what abilities you gained and lost? I don't recall Toony or CM complaining about that. I feel like you're scrambling here.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #739 on: December 14, 2024, 01:16:53 pm »

I'm going to unvote.

While I am deeply, deeply upset with what Fallacy did to my abilities, he probably didn't know how it was going to completely and utterly fuck me over.
Plus, Fallacy clearly acted upon me last night, so it's unlikely he killed Toony.

So I'm going to be looking at Elephant Parade and Imp, but probably Elephant Parade.

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #740 on: December 14, 2024, 01:19:26 pm »

WELL, EuchreJack
Anyone on discord knows why, LOL

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #741 on: December 14, 2024, 01:24:31 pm »

Unvote, I guess

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #742 on: December 14, 2024, 01:27:23 pm »

Secrets revealed indeed. EuchreJack
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #743 on: December 14, 2024, 01:37:49 pm »

Day Event

Elephant Parade was killed

Elephant Parade was town

Spoiler: Elephant Parade (click to show/hide)
« Last Edit: December 15, 2024, 11:13:27 am by notquitethere »
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #744 on: December 14, 2024, 01:39:01 pm »

I'm going to unvote.

While I am deeply, deeply upset with what Fallacy did to my abilities, he probably didn't know how it was going to completely and utterly fuck me over.
Plus, Fallacy clearly acted upon me last night, so it's unlikely he killed Toony.

So I'm going to be looking at Elephant Parade and Imp, but probably Elephant Parade.

Toony didn't die.  He lost.

He lost because Tric became alive and won while alive, which is a loss condition for Toony.

Tric won because he was given a second wincon, res and win.  Somehow, Tric was ressed and won by second wincon.

We can even see he isn't considered mafia anymore, see the word 'previously'?

TricMagic is resurrected and wins a secondary wincon, leaving the game! TricMagic was previously Mafia, Team Gains.

And on the player list in the first post, his flipped name is yellow, unlike the mafia flips, town flips, and third party flip:

Signups
- TricMagic
- Maximum Spin
- Elephant Parade
- Imp
- VermilionSkies
- Crystalizedmire
- Toonyman
- Euchrejack
- FallacyofUrist
- Egan_BW
- Jim_Groovester
- Hector13

I know I didn't res Tric.  Of the flips we see, CrystalizedMire could have.  But she was team Gains with Tric.  So she was forced to or they decided that was the best answer for them or him or whatever.

Or he ressed some other way.

We saw CrystalizedMire claim to have a revive fruit:

CrystalizedMire: What did you do last night?
I made two fruit. One is a revive the other is a one shot ability. If anyone wants it, they can have it. I also lost 0.1 of my vote.

Normally fruit rots 1 cycle after creation... or after being traded?

Fruit can be traded, but it rots away at the end of the next night. Fruit ingested usually would give a temporary effect or ability.

I can't even eat fruit, so I didn't dig into if it rots only after a trade.  I did wonder at the claim of a revive fruit, that's not normal based on the spheres info, but CM had to target a corpse (or mafiakill) to make fruit, so her having special fruit makes sense.

She could have forcefed Tric the fruit with 'Syncophantic Non-Allergenic Sales Pitch' - maybe even was forced to/redirected to, but I don't see how.  Otherwise it's not clear how he ressed - but Toony lost because Tric ressed, I don't see any other possible reason for Toony's loss - he was not killed.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #745 on: December 14, 2024, 01:40:29 pm »

And we lost EP...

Now what to do.  I have no flipping idea.  Time to think.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #746 on: December 14, 2024, 01:41:22 pm »

So I'm going to be looking at Elephant Parade and Imp, but probably Elephant Parade.

Why not look at Fallacy?  Do you think Fal is town, and if so, why?
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #747 on: December 14, 2024, 01:47:22 pm »

And.  You haven't revealed much, clearly for reasons of your own.

Would you tell us what 'Ah!' does?  I don't know if it matters, but maybe it could matter.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D4 - Secrets Revealed
« Reply #748 on: December 14, 2024, 01:56:59 pm »

So I'm going to be looking at Elephant Parade and Imp, but probably Elephant Parade.

Why not look at Fallacy?  Do you think Fal is town, and if so, why?

So, I was thinking that Fallacy's action last night was confirmed due to my abilities being scrambled, but then I noticed that Vermillion apparently should do something to buff his scumbuddy, so now I'm not sure.

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« Reply #749 on: December 14, 2024, 01:58:44 pm »

So I'm going to be looking at Elephant Parade and Imp, but probably Elephant Parade.

Why not look at Fallacy?  Do you think Fal is town, and if so, why?

So, I was thinking that Fallacy's action last night was confirmed due to my abilities being scrambled, but then I noticed that Vermillion apparently should do something to buff his scumbuddy, so now I'm not sure.

What does confirming Fal's action N3 have to do with if Fal is anti-town or not?
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