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[TricMagic]

Nevermind my last post. Really Elephant? For the record it's a meat thing, not an Anime thing. I just don't want to add the 'e' so used 'a'. Just in case there was something that happened if it was said in thread.

Oh. OK. That makes me less certain.

Sasuga: only that person could have done that thing- commonly translated as 'as expected'
Can be a complement or an insult. Sasuga Fallacy (Only Fallacy would be that suspicious.)

It's more likely Fal has a second wincon since that's right next to hats, so he's passing around headbands to win. Having to trade them would also suggest the third sphere, Trade. So it's Second Wincon>Hats>Trade.

As such, you could also recognize they aren't the ghostmaker. They just say that to get their second wincon done. I'm fairly certain Egan made Max the Ghostmaker. Which makes Hector the Infector. Can't be certain obviously, unless Fal really is the Ghostmaker due to an effect applied to him.

[Elephant Parade]

Nevermind my last post. Really Elephant? For the record it's a meat thing, not an Anime thing. I just don't want to add the 'e' so used 'a'. Just in case there was something that happened if it was said in thread.

Oh. OK. That makes me less certain.

Sasuga: only that person could have done that thing- commonly translated as 'as expected'
Can be a complement or an insult. Sasuga Fallacy (Only Fallacy would be that suspicious.)

It's more likely Fal has a second wincon since that's right next to hats, so he's passing around headbands to win. Having to trade them would also suggest the third sphere, Trade. So it's Second Wincon>Hats>Trade.

As such, you could also recognize they aren't the ghostmaker. They just say that to get their second wincon done. I'm fairly certain Egan made Max the Ghostmaker. Which makes Hector the Infector. Can't be certain obviously, unless Fal really is the Ghostmaker due to an effect applied to him.

I literally said I don't think they're the ghostmaker.

[ToonyMan]

PFW

Like I mentioned I don't think an explicit daykill was what killed me, but thanks FoU for handwaving (and possibly intentionally misdirecting) on why it couldn't be you.

Wait.  And the mod message about your dying, you specifically were 'killed'.  we had an elim and 3 'died'.  The mod message about your death is different.  Exhaust is a way to die from what we've been told.  But you were expressly 'killed'.  If it matters.

Don't be confused Imp, like Jim I also think he was "double exhausted" for the daykill.

I believe mafia can copy/mimic abilities in some way. This is how you were infected on N1, they copied Hector because either Hector is scum or they deduced correctly that Hector would infect. This is how Jim was killed during D2, they used a second exhaust action today after exhausting him N1. None of the kills in this game have been "standard".

[FallacyofUrist]

Look, at this point we're practically at endgame, what with the infections. I may as well fullclaim, since my role's actual utility is sharply limited and the scumteam don't gain much value by knowing about it.

My sphere chain is Trade->Hats->Second Wincon. Of these, I've already publicly demonstrated Trade and proven Hats to Jim. I can prove Hats to anyone else who wants a Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband, happily.

My role name is Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband Factory.

My first auto is Cat Ear Headband Market Saturation, with the Second Wincon sphere. If I'm alive and every other living player has a cat ear headband on, I win.

My second auto is Hat Production, with the Hats sphere. At the start of every day while I'm alive, I gain another Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband.

My third auto is Industrial Position, with the Trade sphere. I can make a trade request and specify a random item in return, or specify that I'll give a random item, or both. The trick to the ability is that if the target of the trade doesn't respond to it, the trade is forced. However, they can respond to the trade, and instead of a random item, I'll receive the item they selected in the response.

My fourth auto is Free Samples, with the Trade sphere. I can Gift as a free action once per Night, and it doesn't prevent me from using my normal action to Gift.

In terms of Items, I started out with one Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband - the full details of which I've already claimed - which immediately forced me to wear it. I also started out with the Six of Hearts card, and one Defective Cat Ear Headband, which is a hat that does nothing. I am currently wearing the Defective Cat Ear Headband.

I have one night action, Business Contacts, with the Trade sphere. It gives the target a copy of my Industrial Position auto.

It's really funny, but I don't think I have any reason to bother using it, currently.

Night 0 I had no abilities that would allow me to act.

At the end of Day 1 I gained the terror that is Charles Darwin's Origin of the Species Original Manuscript, With Three Pages Missing, thanks to forcing a trade to Imp with the Six of Hearts.

Night 1, I put on the Defective Cat Ear Headband, and used two Gift actions - one to give a Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband to Jim, and one to give the Manuscript to Egan_BW, since I thought it would be funny. Egan's since proved my decision to be a good one.

Sorry, Imp. I did tell the technical truth that I "lost" the Manuscript, but that's only because I gave it away. I didn't want you to be mad.

That's it. That's my role, my actions...

Oh, and I'm Town, which really should be obvious from the fact that I can't have been infecting people or turning people into ghosts.

[ToonyMan]

For what it's worth two of my spheres are "niche" and "peek" which I think is related to why I have corpse-checking (which Vermilion's corpse disappearance hasn't been explained either, my theory is that it's fuel mafia needs or something).

I don't believe any dead players are actually scum, besides possibly Hector.

Out of living players:

Imp - probably town
Crystal - probably town

Max
Elephant
Jack
FoU

I was going to say I think it's either FoU/Elephant (with Hector?) or Jack/Max (with Hector?), but Elephant is agreeing with me about FoU. I need to reassess and look at Max and Jack more specifically since I have not done so.

[Elephant Parade]

Look, at this point we're practically at endgame, what with the infections. I may as well fullclaim, since my role's actual utility is sharply limited and the scumteam don't gain much value by knowing about it.

My sphere chain is Trade->Hats->Second Wincon. Of these, I've already publicly demonstrated Trade and proven Hats to Jim. I can prove Hats to anyone else who wants a Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband, happily.

My role name is Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband Factory.

My first auto is Cat Ear Headband Market Saturation, with the Second Wincon sphere. If I'm alive and every other living player has a cat ear headband on, I win.

My second auto is Hat Production, with the Hats sphere. At the start of every day while I'm alive, I gain another Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband.

My third auto is Industrial Position, with the Trade sphere. I can make a trade request and specify a random item in return, or specify that I'll give a random item, or both. The trick to the ability is that if the target of the trade doesn't respond to it, the trade is forced. However, they can respond to the trade, and instead of a random item, I'll receive the item they selected in the response.

My fourth auto is Free Samples, with the Trade sphere. I can Gift as a free action once per Night, and it doesn't prevent me from using my normal action to Gift.

In terms of Items, I started out with one Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband - the full details of which I've already claimed - which immediately forced me to wear it. I also started out with the Six of Hearts card, and one Defective Cat Ear Headband, which is a hat that does nothing. I am currently wearing the Defective Cat Ear Headband.

I have one night action, Business Contacts, with the Trade sphere. It gives the target a copy of my Industrial Position auto.

It's really funny, but I don't think I have any reason to bother using it, currently.

Night 0 I had no abilities that would allow me to act.

At the end of Day 1 I gained the terror that is Charles Darwin's Origin of the Species Original Manuscript, With Three Pages Missing, thanks to forcing a trade to Imp with the Six of Hearts.

Night 1, I put on the Defective Cat Ear Headband, and used two Gift actions - one to give a Hypnotic Cat Ear Headband to Jim, and one to give the Manuscript to Egan_BW, since I thought it would be funny. Egan's since proved my decision to be a good one.

Sorry, Imp. I did tell the technical truth that I "lost" the Manuscript, but that's only because I gave it away. I didn't want you to be mad.

That's it. That's my role, my actions...

Oh, and I'm Town, which really should be obvious from the fact that I can't have been infecting people or turning people into ghosts.

This doesn't immediately sound off to me but I'm going to have to review.

[Imp]

Yeah IDK, I'm town, I don't make people become ghosts, and I have no ability to resurrect anyone or do anything useful right now.

[Imp]

Pfp so fun.

I'm same boat as Max says but by now I expect to see wincon movement from max.  If you have no abilities to win with then you must use scumhunting.  Max appears coasting, Max appears okay with the flow.  I don't see clear scum but I expect pro town from Max and I don't see it yet.

[Elephant Parade]

Wait, if we don't lynch CM she can infect someone tonight, and if she's scum (still pretty sure of that) that's pretty bad. CrystalizedMire.

[Maximum Spin]

Unvote.

DW Fallacy, I was just fishing. But do NOT give me one of those hypnotic headbands, that kind of stuff makes me uncomfortable.

Imp, I... haven't been on since my last post.

Imp, do you have any way to prove that you are actually infected?

[Imp]

Same as anyone else, Max.  I presume I die end of the night.  I sure try not to, got no idea.  I actually asked nqt if the wording of that class counted as being what he told me would save a person, and he didn't answer as of when I went to work this morning.  My caution about the different wording of my infection compared to what Tric claimed, you can consider that proof or not.  I know what I saw and what I said about it
  And I know you play to your wincon.

[Imp]

Re max haven't been on.  I read whole game.  I am looking for wincon movement.  I haven't seen it.
Many games I might wait longer.  However, I feel time pressure.  You don't seem to have the same priorities as me.  I don't expect you to react like a different person, I expect you to act like whatever alignment you are.  From what I can see, I suspect that alignment should die.  I'm still watching.  But you are incredible and I don't see that this game.  And I don't think there's much time left or room for much error.

[VermilionSkies]

Imp - …didn’t you say almost the exact same thing about me?

[Imp]

I do think it odd that fal calls the book a terror.  It is a terror in the wrong and well equipped hands.  But anyone should be happy with the book not in enemy hands.  The book in dead hands is also unusable, as far as I know.  And the gathering of pages is a thing too.

I'm fine with the claims made about how the book's being handled.  I suspect we have no time for the book to be assembled and become usable.

Macguffin book, but the book didn't do what we see so far this game.  The dangers we already gave are other than that book.

[Imp]

Imp - …didn’t you say almost the exact same thing about me?

Quite similar.  I still see the same problems and differences in your play too.  I don't think you are pro-town.  I don't see anything you are doing that helps town, before or after death.  Certainly not in what I can see, which is what you are saying and appear trying to move towards.