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Author Topic: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit *UPDATE!*  (Read 2091 times)

Zeebie

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Strange experience with a FB made of vomit *UPDATE!*
« on: October 10, 2024, 02:54:52 pm »

The strange part isn't that it was made of vomit, that's nbd.  But I expected it to fly apart when a dwarf child slapped it (as has been my experience in the past). But when my axelord slashed it with a masterful steel axe, it was only chipped.  And this happened over and over, it took dozens of hits with quality weapons wielded by experts before it collapsed.  I'm used to FBs made of vomit/smoke/butter to be super delicate. Has something been changed in recent versions?
« Last Edit: October 14, 2024, 07:13:25 am by Zeebie »
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2024, 07:23:19 pm »

How cold was it? Cause, "chipping" something usually means it is a solid... Not that I'm sure if that can happen.
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2024, 10:19:36 pm »

I'm used to FBs made of vomit/smoke/butter

Wait...you can actually get FBs made of butter? This I gotta see.
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2024, 06:02:43 am »

How cold was it? Cause, "chipping" something usually means it is a solid... Not that I'm sure if that can happen.

A scorching biome, so probably not frozen.
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2024, 06:03:25 am »

I'm used to FBs made of vomit/smoke/butter

Wait...you can actually get FBs made of butter? This I gotta see.

I might have exaggerated on that point. Does butter even exist in DF?
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2024, 06:22:40 am »

You can confirm it was a forgotten beast and not an angel? Angels are always solid.
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2024, 10:51:07 am »

I'm used to FBs made of vomit/smoke/butter

Wait...you can actually get FBs made of butter? This I gotta see.

I might have exaggerated on that point. Does butter even exist in DF?

It does not, unfortunately. Dwarves prefer to eat lard.

It sounds like it was solidified for whatever reason, and its shear size made it impossible to cut through in one hit.
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2024, 11:13:48 am »

You can confirm it was a forgotten beast and not an angel? Angels are always solid.

It was announced as a FB. Do angels ever come visit fortresses?
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2024, 03:42:06 pm »

It was announced as a FB. Do angels ever come visit fortresses?
Only if you build right on top of their homes.
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2024, 05:44:58 pm »

The game considers vomit to be a solid. It's only two states are solid and pressed (as in put through a screw press) solid.
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2024, 06:24:26 pm »

It should be SOLID_POWDER shouldn't it?
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2024, 10:18:31 am »

The game considers vomit to be a solid. It's only two states are solid and pressed (as in put through a screw press) solid.

Fascinating and disgusting!
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2024, 03:39:02 pm »

It should be SOLID_POWDER shouldn't it?
It's just ALL_SOLID and SOLID_PRESSED, with a solid density value (1200), specific heat value (4181), and heat damage point (10180).

https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Vomit

Vomit or pressed vomit.
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2024, 04:08:27 pm »

And... size matters... there is probably about 60 dwarfs worth of the stuff.

After world-gen, there was a party, and Armok's vomit escaped...
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Re: Strange experience with a FB made of vomit
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2024, 08:36:17 pm »

60 dwarfs is probably how it came into existence in the first place.
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