Can anyone help me understand
Jack's normal bussing behavior? This only matters if Jack this game is maf, but if we see a maf flip this can help people decide what to do tonight.
I've played a few games with Jack, but he was town in all but 2.
One of the 2, Max's Supernormal bastard game, I'm pretty sure (we never saw most flips and roles or an actions list, even alignments mutated for some a lot so pretty sure isn't very sure) that game Jack was solo SK.
He did make a few bus-related comments, but I don't think he had any partners. For sure at the time he said this, Sof wasn't his partner and he knew he wasn't gonna die that elim because he had a second life even if elimmed.
@Imp: I am scumbuddies with Sofanthiel. We win when all other players are dead. But he was mean to me in the scumchat, so I'm squealing on him.
I'm trying to evaluate everything I can about you.
*Groan*
That is a waste of time. You have everything you need to know about me. I'm an outed Serial Killer that needs town to lynch scum so I can poison someone tonight towards achieving my "Everyone Dies" win condition*. You should be trying to evaluate literally anyone else.
*While I do have a "win with town" victory condition, whether or not I'm telling the truth about that is a question you can answer if town still exists tomorrow
In NQT's CYOS2, he was maf partnered with Verm. But Verm was elim D1 primarily I think because I was sure he was anti-town and there was no pressure on Jack then, so I never saw if Jack would bus. But here's the only two interactions from Jack towards Verm, Jack's own readslist that doesn't have opinion on Verm... I had very recently posted my case and vote on Verm but other reads on Verm were neutral. And then, later, a poke towards both Verm and CrystalizedMire to provide a readslist. Otherwise, Jack ignored Verm.
Maximum Spin is hiding in the shadows.
That's an interesting thing to call sleeping.
This covers me as well. Going back to work with a cold sucks.
Reads List
TricMagic is gonna die end of Day 1. So Town unless still alive Day 2. Sorry Tric.
Ghosts
Egan_BW is dead and thus not worth analyzing. Apparently killed themselves before the game began.
Hector13 is dead and thus not worth analyzing. Hector's death is still unexplained. Despite the fact that I don't want to waste brain power on ghosts, Hector13 has actually made some good points in Day 1, which he absolutely doesn't have to be doing.
Toonyman is town. Toonymosis.
Imp is town. Playing the game, probably looking to give out gifts during the Night, like Santa Claus. And Santa Claus is Town, obviously.
Jim_Groovester is Slightly Town, and his posts are like the best of Christmas Presents.
Elephant Parade is very slightly town, seems to be trying to figure things out.
VermilionSkies exists.
Crystalizedmire exists. I know from experience that I mostly can't read Crystalizedmire.
FallacyofUrist needs to play better, and looks scummy for not playing better.
Maximum Spin has largely posted things I imagine he wrote before the game started. There was a bit of panic over someone touching his stuff, but I don't see how that points to him being town. But now going through stuff. Maybe should ask for a replacement? Eh, unvote
As the Official Reads List Nazi, the following players have not to my understanding done a reads list, and are required to do so:
VermilionSkies
Crystalizedmire
I'm giving Maximum Spin and Egan_BW a pass. Max because of stuff (plus he usually doesn't listen to me on this anyways) and Egan_BW is excused on account of being dead (and also usually doesn't listen to me on this).
To humiliate the above players further, I will note that even Fallacy has made an attempt at a reads list. Even Fallacy!
I'd call what Jack is doing in interaction with CrystalizedMire today 'hellbussing' if they're partnered. Does anyone know if heavy bussing is really not something Jack would do or if it's in his range when he's pressured? Both Max and I were discussing him as elim when he focused on CrystalizedMire. No votes on him but I'd call this heavy pressure and I haven't seen partnered Jack under pressure.
I wanna say Crystal can't be his partner (and that matters only if he has a partner) but I'm guessing based on not-very-similar other games I know. Anyone know?
We can't plan after his flip, it's night. Everyone who can do something useful has to decide for themselves, we can plan but maf can use plans. If he's not maf then I don't know what to advise. I don't have a role that can stop kills so I don't even get to try and find the best thing I can do, but some of us alive can.
If we see he's maf, those who can should they consider if they should block/jail CrystalizeMire or not? So I wanna know what he usually does as highly pressured maf towards partners, does he bus hard or never or vary or what.
And of course I'm presuming Jack is the elim. Based on others' reads, my own reads, and everything I see, that's the best guess I have to get a maf elim today.
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Topic: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Game Over: Outplayed (Read 7331 times)