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[Maximum Spin]

According to my research, players most likely to have killed NJW include: EuchreJack, notquitethere, maybe Hyper.

It's also possible that NJW redirected someone to himself, though. I don't think the assumption that NJW would have redirected someone to Imp is necessarily true.

[Imp]

Option 2: Vermillion was the one being voted yesterday before they got saved. I would have voted them if I didn't miss the end of the day.
Option 3: No Reason. Really not coming in with 3s today for reasoning.

Tric.  You would have set up for a chance of a tie EoD if only you'd been here, or you're not paying attention to what you're claiming, or what?

We were at:

Imp (2): TricMagic, NJW2000
Maximum Spin (0):
TricMagic (1): Hyper
NJW2000 (0):
Crystalizedmire (0):
EuchreJack (0):
Starver (4): Maximum Spin, Imp, VermillionSkies, Crystalizedmire
notquitethere (0):
VermillionSkies (2): notquitethere, EuchreJack
Hyper (0):

No Execution (0):

Not Voting (1): Starver

6 to hammer.

You would have preferred us this?

Imp (1): NJW2000
Maximum Spin (0):
TricMagic (1): Hyper
NJW2000 (0):
Crystalizedmire (0):
EuchreJack (0):
Starver (4): Maximum Spin, Imp, VermillionSkies, Crystalizedmire
notquitethere (0):
VermillionSkies (3): notquitethere, EuchreJack, TricMagic
Hyper (0):

No Execution (0):

Not Voting (1): Starver

That was your D1 intention?  That's why you're voting Verm now?

[TricMagic]

Crystal only voted to prevent the tie. Crystal if you had the choice who would you have voted yesterday?

[TricMagic]

And yeah, I would have taken the No Lynch over the obvious bandwagon on a new player. If they were still alive today I would have 3 townreads. That's nearly a majority.

[TricMagic]

For the record crystal that's why I thought of it as a hammer vote. There weren't enough people at day end to contest it.

[EuchreJack]

According to my research, players most likely to have killed NJW include: EuchreJack, notquitethere, maybe Hyper.

It's also possible that NJW redirected someone to himself, though. I don't think the assumption that NJW would have redirected someone to Imp is necessarily true.

Other than blaming me, this makes sense to me

[EuchreJack]

Hm.
Theories for how Tric got blocked:
1. Mafia has a roleblocker.
2. Town has another roleblocker.
3. My action was used by someone else on Tric.
4. My action was copied, and then used on Tric.

I don't think 3 is likely, because I still have both of my shots as far as I'm aware.
2 seems unlikely, but they do seem have separate mechanics from me, as CM had their action cancelled by it.
1 or 4 seems most likely from what I've seen of the game's setup, but I'm leaning towards 1.

Yes, but why would mafia ever roleblock Tric?!

[EuchreJack]

What if NJW used his Mimic ability, and Imp just misunderstood her night results?

[Imp]

What if NJW used his Mimic ability, and Imp just misunderstood her night results?

Why do you think this could happen, and what might my results look like if it did?

And yeah, I would have taken the No Lynch over the obvious bandwagon on a new player. If they were still alive today I would have 3 townreads. That's nearly a majority.

Tric seems sideways.  Not the same sideways as last game.  Something's weird and wrong with Tric's reasoning.

Why do you townread Max, Hyper, and why did you townread Starver?  You sure didn't say you townread him D1 or call him towny in any way - why not?

IF I am telling the truth that Verm did NOT do the kill

You could be telling the truth about your result and were redirected, would you even know your actual target if that happened?

It's also possible that NJW redirected someone to himself, though. I don't think the assumption that NJW would have redirected someone to Imp is necessarily true.

I don't get why NJW'd, based on D1 and his flip, do something else but I sure didn't get to see his target, either of them (since redirect has 2).

Max is hardly playing, total null for me.
Verm still looks like town Verm, I'm about 80% sure he is town.
Jack claims this weird limitation, it's super limited.  If we presume nobody's lying, the only people he can inherit from are Starver, me, and any of our 4 unclaimed folks who could have an investigative ability.  That's not so limited if all or most of the unclaimed are investigative, only Tric, Verm, and NJW are for sure 'couldn't get a 1-shot from' for him.  10 of us, game likely goes 3+ days, maybe that makes sense, but seems really limited/niche/situational and feels wrong to me.  Maybe FoU made a weird-compared-to-others role.
Tric's sideways weird/wrong.
CrystalizedMire is only discussing mech from last night (couldn't target Tric, so modified jail there) and focused on vote pattern from D1 on Starver.
NQT points out that what he said wouldn't happen has happened, focuses on vote patterns on Starver, says will do and say more later today.
Hyper hasn't posted yet today.

[TricMagic]

... Imp. You're not reading. That doesn't seem right. I did townread Max D1, and you should have seen that.
Starver and Hyper are going after me for perfectly logical reasonings as new players. Crystal also showed some initive in making sure the vote didn't tie. Normally you would be asking questions of the GM to figure things out for yourself, then trying to piece together the puzzle. But that question to Jack doesn't make sense from that perspective. Why are you trying to offload questions to others this game?

[Maximum Spin]

I don't really have much to say yet. It would help if more people were posting but I'm guessing there are holiday distractions.

[Imp]

... Imp. You're not reading. That doesn't seem right. I did townread Max D1, and you should have seen that.
Starver and Hyper are going after me for perfectly logical reasonings as new players. Crystal also showed some initive in making sure the vote didn't tie. Normally you would be asking questions of the GM to figure things out for yourself, then trying to piece together the puzzle. But that question to Jack doesn't make sense from that perspective. Why are you trying to offload questions to others this game?

It's called scumhunting, Tric.  As you very well know.  I see every word you and everyone else has posted, and you haven't posted much.  You sure didn't call Hyper or Starver towny D1.  You're 'convenient'.

I do not think you are town.  I don't know if you could have killed last night or not - if your claim or CrystalizedMire's is correct, you could not have.  We had a death last night.  You are not acting like you're town and I make that clear and strong now.  You also can't be the only anti-town, there's work to do.

Most of us have to be town, and I really hope more people post so we can figure out and solve instead of guess and probably lose without a chance.

[Imp]

But that question to Jack doesn't make sense from that perspective. Why are you trying to offload questions to others this game?

I cannot ask that question of FoU.  Jack said it.  What is he thinking?  FoU can't tell me that.

I'm not confused and I don't see how I could be.  I see what FoU gave me and I have asked about it.  What is Jack thinking and why - only Jack can say.  As you know, you sideways not-town piece of Tric.

[Hyper]

... Honestly Tranq makes sense if we go by descriptions. Unless someone literally hit me with a tree. But that's two blocks in game...

i didn’t hit you with a tree, but i did protect you in an alcove between a couple trees.

After I essentially said to Hyper not to worry about this exact scenario, we did go on to see a cop and a doctor killed.

Hm.
2. Town has another roleblocker.

this one is correct, but i am jailkeeper, not roleblocker. i block all action. vindictive quality, so i have to vote someone, like i did with tric, to use it. i was hesitant of tric because they did seem the most scummy, and now they’ve admitted to having a kill ability they fully intended on using 😬 so now i’m hesitant to give up the pressure. i might as well have used it anyways. i also wanted to - just as a backup plan - use it on someone out of the spotlight so if tric wasn’t scum, mafia couldnt just kill someone who had no one *really* voting for them.

Crystal, two things: first, why do you have to specify that your action is non-threatening? second, what’s the purpose of targeting tric n1?

[notquitethere]

Turns out I'm too Christmassy to do anything in the game today (or likely tomorrow). Some quickfire thoughts:

- So far we've had some claims about who did and didn't act. Taking at face value, this can help narrow the pool of killers last night, though scum can always lie.
- NJW must have seemed like a threat to someone. There aren't many posts in the game so it should be easy to look back and see what he said or how he voted that might have made him seem worth killing.
- Might be NAI, but I'm glad VS has stepped up a bit today in activity.

He was against Imp, so maybe there's a place to start-- maybe on Boxing Day.