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[EuchreJack]

My thoughts on voting:
We're either in Mylo or Elo, hard to say which.
If we don't hit Mafia today, I think it's game over.

[EuchreJack]

Yeah, gonna agree with Vermillion and vote Crystalizedmire

[EuchreJack]

@Max: Tric is dead and you're alive. What further proof do you need that I ain't mafia?!

I mean, yes, killing NJW is absolutely what I would do, and I can can't fault you for suspecting me over that. But Tric!?
Why would I ever kill the guy famous for "Kill Town, Protect Mafia"?

And by that logic, Imp is confirmed Town because Tric tried to kill them.

[EuchreJack]

I am going to lay out my thoughts on Crystal, because I have doubts, and I would like people to suggest a better lynch if they have one.

Crystal claims bodyguard, and claims protected Max Night 2.
Crystal at no point expressed concern over Hyper's claim of also having a protect in the form of a Jailkeep. Although, we know that Hyper is at least a roleblocker, and it is not uncommon for Mafia Roleblockers to claim Jailkeeper.

Hm, what did Crystal do Night 1? Certainly not Bodyguard NJW, which would seem to be an ideal use of the Bodyguard.

[EuchreJack]

K. Who here hit me with a Roleblock? That was rude and you should feel bad, I was ATTEMPTING to kill Imp.

The roleblock must've acted like some sort of jail as I couldn't target Tricmagic last night with my non-threatening action.

Claim by Crystal as to Night 1 action.

[EuchreJack]

I'm not a confident man by nature, but I do alright going with things that I am 75% sure on, and I think Crystal is probably a good vote for today.

Hyper could totally be playing us.
Max is clearly capable of playing us, but does seem to have conjured up information in a pro-town direction. Plus, I don't think I could get a Max wagon going even if I wanted to.

I know that Vermillion didn't do the Night 1 kill.

Imp...is Imp.

[EuchreJack]

right so Jack, your wording threw me off with the briefly. you need to have voted me eod, though.

@Hyper: I'd rather not see you voted out just to prove a point, but if you vote Crystal, then I will vote you if you like.

[Imp]

right so Jack, your wording threw me off with the briefly. you need to have voted me eod, though.

@Hyper: I'd rather not see you voted out just to prove a point, but if you vote Crystal, then I will vote you if you like.

I am watching and thinking but I want all players aware, especially the new, Hyper.

We have 2 votes on CrystalizedMire.

4 is hammer.  If CrystalizedMire is town, putting anyone not-maf at 1 vote from hammer could allow mafia to potentially steal the entire game.

Hyper and everyone.  Think very carefully about voting CrystalizedMire right now.  It's ideal if Crystal is maf, otherwise it's horrible and throws us into night where people either catch the nightkill or we lose.  I can't catch a nightkill.

Jack.  How sure are you that CrystalizedMire is maf at this point where it's probably game over if wrong?  I do sus CrystalizedMire.  I also sus you.  I'm aware others sus you, which I trust more than my own sus this horrible reads game for me.

Are you trying to win the game for town, or trying to avoid a Jack elim?

[Hyper]

right so Jack, your wording threw me off with the briefly. you need to have voted me eod, though.

@Hyper: I'd rather not see you voted out just to prove a point, but if you vote Crystal, then I will vote you if you like.

i don’t want to vote crystal because what happens if a mafia votes them and auto kills them? then we lose, right? i think i said it before, vote me if you want to be protected for the night.

[Maximum Spin]

i think i said it before, vote me if you want to be protected for the night.

I'll take you at your word, Hyper.

I am taking a Kierkegaardian leap of faith. This is generally the right way to win mafia anyway.
Imp, follow your gut. I am acting on the presumption that your gut will tell you not to place any hasty votes, BUT I will offer zero complaint if it tells you otherwise.

[Hyper]

I am taking a Kierkegaardian leap of faith.

Kierkegaardian as in taking control/self-expression existentialism?
you have my protection tonight.

[Imp]

Yeah.  I don't know what's best.

I think Jack needs to die, I think Jack attempted to sneak a hammer chance onto Crystal.  That suggests Crystal isn't teamed with Jack.

I'm comfortable voting Jack, but there's the hammer risks and people aren't talking.

And there's the plans that are or are not made.

Plans can be used by maf really well.  Hyper's so limited I'm fine with a vote on him, I don't think we have 3 maf standing around waiting for the chance to hammer one of the 3 not-maf.

Apparently there's a real chance one of the maf is Crystal, Jack, or Verm, and maybe only 1 of those three is maf, if that was an invite to get newbie Hyper to set up a hammer chance for the other maf.  But that would mean Max who didn't, and also didn't kill me. So the heck is going on.

We can't mess around and elim anything but maf, the numbers are too tight.  I think Jack's our best call.

That would leave Verm roleblocker of anyone, 1 shot left, proven he can block Tric's kill.
Hyper probably proven he can jail anyone he votes or votes him (He apparently jailed Tric, or he and Crystal are a team and what is Jack doing).
Crystal who claimed doctor, seems odd about it.

If Hyper jails Max; well Max lives for sure and can't possibly do the kill.

Verm can roleblock anyone.  I'm not the pick, Verm, but I understand if you pick me.

Crystal can protect anyone if Crystal can protect anyone or Crystal hasn't shared the limitation she has.  Man, I sus Crystal.  But Jack looks more partnered and if there's an SK we have to kill the maf first.

If we see a flip of maf with Jack, partner... I dunno.  Jack appears to have called for a setup to be L-1 on Crystal.  And we know there's no normal vote manipulation this game.  Could that be partners?  Both of them maf and a heavy bus, no chance of a maf hammer on Crystal because Crystal and Jack are maf?  I never saw Jack bus?

I'm confused but I think going with Jack makes sense and I know there's other sus of Jack.  And I sus Crystal heavily too, and I don't know if that's me being wrong like all my other sus this game, but there's other trust of Crystal being town.

So I don't know if it makes sense that we leave Crystal free to protect if she can.  We need to be careful how many vote Hyper, better be just one.  That could have been a threat from Jack too.

[EuchreJack]

Hm, good points on the voting. However, the fact that scum has NOT hammered Crystal might mean something. So, I think it's a good place to keep my vote.

I think it's one Mafia within Crystal or Vermillion, so I think that is where the voting should go.

[EuchreJack]

I'm happy to vote Vermillion, since folks don't seem to think it's Crystal.

Gambler's fallacy makes me hesitant, but I can see Vermillion as scum.

[Maximum Spin]

Hm, good points on the voting. However, the fact that scum has NOT hammered Crystal might mean something. So, I think it's a good place to keep my vote.

I think it's one Mafia within Crystal or Vermillion, so I think that is where the voting should go.

But do you think there is only one mafia at all? If not, who do you think is the other, or (if you believe there might be 3, which is at least conceivable depending on the setup) another?