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Author Topic: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Game Over: Outplayed  (Read 7269 times)

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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #210 on: December 27, 2024, 10:14:11 pm »

EJ - Starting with Max, because I have more to say.
At near the end of D2, I was fairly suspicious of their lack of claimed night results, but I don't think that what they've shown today is a role that mafia would have. MAlly, maybe, but the existence of one of those is dubious, currently. I'd like to hear more details about what exactly they did, but I'm not certain that's forthcoming any time soon.
Crystal decided to drop... this post?
I'm sorry! I thought someone else protected him! I decided to protect you instead
Which seems like a very strange way to roleclaim on D3, especially considering Max was a point of contention, and thus less likely to be attacked by mafia.
Additionally, they didn't explain whether it was a jail or a doctor during their 'claim.'

My list currently is -
Crystallizedmire: Hang today.
Imp: I'm going to roleblock her tonight, most likely. Her one action claim so far is an inconsistent follow on someone who died the same night.
Hyper: Either really valuable, or definitely mafia. Either way, it'll keep for D4.
EJ/Max: In a similar place for me currently. Most likely to be town, by process of elimination, alongside roles that don't make sense to be part of the mafia.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #211 on: December 27, 2024, 11:00:46 pm »

@Hyper: What is your ability again? I could vote you briefly if it's not going to colossally fuck me over.  Unless we're unlucky with today's lynch, I ain't gonna be doing anything on Night 3

im a jailkeeper, the worst that can happen is you can’t act for one night. you need to have voted me by end of day, and have it processed as a vote for me, i believe. can i get a check on that, Fallacy?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #212 on: December 27, 2024, 11:05:51 pm »

What question exactly are you asking?
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FoU has some twisted role ideas. Screw second-guessing this mechanical garbage spaghetti, I'm basing everything on reads and visible daytime behaviour.

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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #213 on: December 27, 2024, 11:08:57 pm »

What question exactly are you asking?
someone must be voting for me at the end of the day to have me protect them? the way that jack worded his question,
I could vote you briefly if it's not going to colossally fuck me over.  Unless we're unlucky with today's lynch, I ain't gonna be doing anything on Night 3
keyword briefly - made me question if i was interpreting my vindictive correctly.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #214 on: December 27, 2024, 11:11:44 pm »

I can't answer questions about private role information in public.

You can define hypothetical terms or situations and then ask me to answer questions based on those in public, as long as the terms are specific enough.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #215 on: December 27, 2024, 11:20:34 pm »

right so Jack, your wording threw me off with the briefly. you need to have voted me eod, though.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #216 on: December 27, 2024, 11:24:45 pm »

Imp: I'm going to roleblock her tonight, most likely. Her one action claim so far is an inconsistent follow on someone who died the same night.
Imp didn't kill n2.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #217 on: December 27, 2024, 11:28:54 pm »

Imp didn't kill n2.
how do you know? i dont believe i know your role?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #218 on: December 27, 2024, 11:31:33 pm »

Max, do you know if Crystal killed N2 or not?
Otherwise, I think the plan is still the same for the most part.
I RB Imp, and Hyper jails EJ. If nobody dies, it's between those two. If someone does die, there's mafia between me, Max, and Hyper.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #219 on: December 27, 2024, 11:32:56 pm »

Max, do you know if Crystal killed N2 or not?
Otherwise, I think the plan is still the same for the most part.
I RB Imp, and Hyper jails EJ. If nobody dies, it's between those two. If someone does die, there's mafia between me, Max, and Hyper.
I do not have that information.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #220 on: December 27, 2024, 11:35:18 pm »

Imp: So far, all your scumreads have been immediately proven wrong.

Are you willing to take a gamble with me?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #221 on: December 27, 2024, 11:41:26 pm »

Imp: So far, all your scumreads have been immediately proven wrong.

Are you willing to take a gamble with me?

This game is hard.

I actually think you're town, or you're a very brave flavor of Max.

I think if you could kill me, I would already be dead.  I think you'd expect me to press you and get you dead and I'd be dead so I couldn't.  Town you can't kill me (and town you with a kill might not, unsure.  We can't make really any more mistakes).

So if you mean gamble that you're town, yeah.  I actually think you have to be town, despite the fact that I've been wrong about everything.  And if scum-you can read me that good to know I'ma be wrong about everything, even can't read town or scum - I don't think so.

What gamble do you want?  I still think Verm's probably town too.  If he's not town, he hid this behavior all last game, didn't show he could adapt and look town at all, then used all that skill he perfectly hid to look like him town.  I think he's town now.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #222 on: December 27, 2024, 11:46:34 pm »

Imp: So far, all your scumreads have been immediately proven wrong.

Are you willing to take a gamble with me?

This game is hard.

I actually think you're town, or you're a very brave flavor of Max.

I think if you could kill me, I would already be dead.  I think you'd expect me to press you and get you dead and I'd be dead so I couldn't.  Town you can't kill me (and town you with a kill might not, unsure.  We can't make really any more mistakes).

So if you mean gamble that you're town, yeah.  I actually think you have to be town, despite the fact that I've been wrong about everything.  And if scum-you can read me that good to know I'ma be wrong about everything, even can't read town or scum - I don't think so.

What gamble do you want?  I still think Verm's probably town too.  If he's not town, he hid this behavior all last game, didn't show he could adapt and look town at all, then used all that skill he perfectly hid to look like him town.  I think he's town now.
My instincts have been screaming at me to vote Jack all game.

I didn't indulge them, and we've seen exclusively town deaths.

I'm taking a gamble here too, since you could easily be scum with Verm, or even anyone else. I think it's MyLo, too, and it might even technically be correct to no-lynch in the circumstances. But I want to lynch Jack. What do you think?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #223 on: December 27, 2024, 11:55:55 pm »

Imp: So far, all your scumreads have been immediately proven wrong.

Are you willing to take a gamble with me?

This game is hard.

I actually think you're town, or you're a very brave flavor of Max.

I think if you could kill me, I would already be dead.  I think you'd expect me to press you and get you dead and I'd be dead so I couldn't.  Town you can't kill me (and town you with a kill might not, unsure.  We can't make really any more mistakes).

So if you mean gamble that you're town, yeah.  I actually think you have to be town, despite the fact that I've been wrong about everything.  And if scum-you can read me that good to know I'ma be wrong about everything, even can't read town or scum - I don't think so.

What gamble do you want?  I still think Verm's probably town too.  If he's not town, he hid this behavior all last game, didn't show he could adapt and look town at all, then used all that skill he perfectly hid to look like him town.  I think he's town now.
My instincts have been screaming at me to vote Jack all game.

I didn't indulge them, and we've seen exclusively town deaths.

I'm taking a gamble here too, since you could easily be scum with Verm, or even anyone else. I think it's MyLo, too, and it might even technically be correct to no-lynch in the circumstances. But I want to lynch Jack. What do you think?

Jack's weird.  His claim's weird.

We've seen a lot of town flips and we've seen a lot of claims.  I don't know if Jack is honest or not, I really had a hard time deciding who to follow last night.  Didn't matter, since my bad knee hit.

But Jack could have sat all game with no actions.  For that matter, NQT.  A super weak town role, in terms of solving and use.  So I dunno.  Maybe Jack's honest.

I think you're town, Verm's town.  I'm town.  If we have 3 maf, and no SK, today wouldn't happen.

If we have an Sk, where's the other kills, arson for real?

So we have 2 maf with or without ally, with or without SK.  Or we have 3 maf + an Sk that never killed.

Me wrong about everything.  Jack's my weaker townread.  Has to be at least 2 maf I think.  No idea the other, between CM and Hyper.  If you're able to night kill and let me live this game this long, wow. My mind is blown.  If Verm can fool me this deep, mind blown.

So between Jack, CrystalizedMire, Hyper.  And I've been wrong all game, but I think 2 maf there.  But if we're wrong I think town loses.  Do you want to gamble on me being that kinda 'wrong into right?'
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4 / Day 3: Fallen Fiend (6 / 10)
« Reply #224 on: December 28, 2024, 12:03:25 am »

If you're able to night kill and let me live this game this long, wow. My mind is blown.
I happen to feel the same. And you're not wrong.

But I think Jack would. So would Hyper, who knows none of us from Adam. I think they're honestly the most natural choice to have done the kills we saw so far.

Do you think Crysm would?
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