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Round 1 - Erik Blank vs. an Unknown & Anonymous Masked Bay12 User?

3 (75%)

Round 3 - Erik Blank vs. Wolfkey

0 (0%)

Round 4 - Squamous vs. an Unknown & Anonymous Masked Bay12 User?

0 (0%)

Round 5 - FirePhoenix11 vs. an Unknown & Anonymous Masked Bay12 User?

0 (0%)

Round 9 - Erik Blank vs. FirePhoenix11

1 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 4

Voting closed: October 17, 2024, 08:28:00 pm

[dikbutdagrate]

The Final Round of Titan Fest 2024 has concluded. And we got some good stuff for you this round.

The link to vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTnjHRuM9PA
Our opening for this final round is a rather interesting one. The words are spelled out using creatures, like the earlier round where we used dragons. The catch is, they're all creatures participating in the tournament, and they're all on the same team, with the single lone exception of " ".

Below the words spelling out "round nine", we have a single " ", which is on its own separate team. No one has any automatic starting syndromes applied. And we hit spacebar.

Watch the vid to see the results!

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Round 9 Match Results:

An Unknown Masked & Anonymous Bay12 User:  2  -  0
DPh Kraken:                                                     0  -  2

Game 1 - The Golden Kobold wins the die roll, getting to spawn in first. The Golden Kobold walks straight toward the Black Pudding, and upon reaching melee range, transforms into an instance of "Beelzebub, tenebris ignis" proper. The game doesn't last more than a blink of an eye after the transformation. The Golden Kobold takes game 1.

Game 2 - Same deal, except the Golden Kobold transform into a clone, of a clone, of the Lord of Flies, specifically, its friendship summon. The Golden Kobold takes game 2 easily, winning the match 2 - 0.


Dikbutdagrate:  2  -  0
BYE:                 0  -  2

Game 1 - Dikbutdagrate takes game 1 after summoning some help, and polymorphing the BYE monster into an evaporating cloud of goodbye.

Game 2 - "Webs, flies, and goodbyes" leave only a puddle of "seeya" on the edge of the screen. The BYE monster transforms into a "goodbye" monster, and evaporates. Dikbutdagrate takes game 2, winning the match 2 - 0.


Erik Blank:   0  -  2
FirePhoenix: 2  -  0

Game 1 - Okay, so I know that the match results would typically indicate that we shouldn't be too excited here. Afterall, it tells us that Erik loses this 0 - 2 to " ", like, how else was this going to end? But don't be fooled here! Game 1 is probably the closest match that we've ever observed during this entire tournament. It was wild.

The match starts with Erik Blank winning the die roll, and getting to spawn in first. I can scarcely believe it myself, but the incredible happens here, " "'s AI freaking breaks. It provides Erik Blank's creature with its only theoretical opening.
Why the hell couldn't the Lord of Flies have gotten this lucky?!

The entire combat log for game 1 is hosted here, if you want to review the entire play-by-play in text form without interruptions:
https://pastebin.com/raw/Ek6Pt6WA

And here are some screenshots of " "'s health status. First image is just after the Spelltitan is slain. The second is after allowing the game to run for some time following " "'s victory, just to see if " " would survive all the wounds it sustained. It does manage to survive, and slowly begins a very long recovery process.

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Game 2 - Womp! Erik goes down on tick 2. " " takes the match 2  -  0.

Seriously though, props to the Spelltitan, and to Erik Blank. The Golden Kobold may have secured the only 0 - 1 - 1 match result against " ", but no one came closer to actually scoring an actual game win against " ". That being said however, this is also a testament to the sheer overwhelming dominance of " ", in that, even in a straight 1-to-1 melee battle, no wagon transformations, no obsidian tile casting, " " is still able to beat Erik's Titan merely by "pushing" it to death, although it was certainly close. 


Jecowa:       0  -  2
Squamous:  2  -  0

Game 1 - Jecowa loses the die roll, spawning in second, but getting to use his custom arena. I'm a little confused by this one. Squamous's the Supreme Profanity polymorphs Jecowa's Phoeball into a worse version of the Supreme Profanity. Jecowa bites the Supreme Profanity, and then falls into an abyss. IDK what that was about, but Squamous gets it, winning game 1!

Game 2 - The arena shifts, and battle ensues. The Phoeball is transformed once again, as the Supreme Profanity summons multiple copies of itself. The Supreme Profanities use force blast interactions, which send the newly transformed Phoeball flying backwards. As their body skids across the ground, the Phoeball's bones shatter and tear apart, leaving its corpse to the flaming grass surrounding it's broken body.  Squamous wins this won, taking the match 2 - 0.


Xzaxza:   1  -  2
Wolfkey:  2  -  1

Game 1 -Xzaxza wins the die roll, getting to spawn in first. Xzaxza's Adamantine Monster immidately polymorphs Wolfkey's the Scuttler into a constantly retransforming sheep, fires a volley of projectiles, and unleashes a wave of dragonfire. The sheep is blasted into the backwall and melted in the ensuing white-hot flames. Xzaxza takes game 1.

Game 2 -This time the Scuttler spawns in first, and immediately transforms the Adamantine Monster into a wagon, which slays it on the very next tick. The Scuttler gets it, winning game 2.

Game 3 - The tie breaker for this match actually resulted in a double knock-out, however the Scuttler scored its kill first, getting the game win, and taking the match 2 - 1.

The play by play here: The Adamantine Monster spawned in first this time, but it didn't use the interaction it needed to, in order to win. Instead, it let out a terrible roar and a wave of dragonfire. To which the scuttler responded by doing the only thing it knows how to, which is turn stuff into wagons. The Adamantine Monster collapses into a pile of logs, as the wave of dragonfire consumes the crab. It takes but a moment for the crab to be roasted alive, but it had already dealt the necessary blow to secure its win. 

The Scuttler wins 2 - 1.

[dikbutdagrate]

T I T A N    F E S T
For year 2024 has concluded, thank you to everyone who submitted creatures the event.

We have our LORD OF BLOOD!   All hail - FirePhoenix11 & " "!

The undefeated and foremost Titan among Titans!

The raws and graphic images for the creatures can be found here on DFFD.
https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=17222
A mod containing the creatures will also be uploaded onto the Steam Workshop relatively soonish.

FINAL STANDINGS | ( Win - Loss - Draw ) Records | & Number of Received Flavor Points:
#1  FirePhoenix11                                  |  27 points          |  ( 9 - 0 - 0 )   |
#2  Dikbutdagrate                                     |  21 points       |   ( 7 - 2 - 0 )  |
#3  Wolfkey                                               |  18 points      |   ( 6 - 3 - 0 )  |  1x Flavor Points
#4   Erik Blank                                           |  16 points      |   ( 5 - 3 - 1 )  |  1x Flavor Points
#5   Squamous                                           |  15 points     |   ( 5 - 4 - 0 )  |
#6   An Annoymous masked Bay12 User         |  13  points  |   ( 4 - 3 - 1 )  |   3x Flavor Points
#7   jecowa                                                   |  12 points  |   ( 4 - 5 - 0 )  |
#8   xzaxza                                                    |  9 points   |   ( 3 - 6 - 0 )  |
#9    DPh Kraken                                            |  3 points   |   ( 1 - 8 - 0 )  |    7x Flavor Points
#10    BYE Creature                                          |  1 points   |   ( 0 - 8 - 1 )  |

[TheFlame52]

Damn, I would've put in a submission if I had known this was happening.

[dikbutdagrate]

Damn, I would've put in a submission if I had known this was happening.

Lol, the understanding is that we'll probably do it again next year, so look forward to that.


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Now that the tournament has concluded, an award will be acquired for the winner (although the shipping might take a little while.)
And the participants may now allocate their 3x flavor points in any manner they so choose, to any of the combatants.

My flavor points are being allocated thusly:

• 3x points toward DPh Kraken's Black Pudding.
  Quite possibly the only creature that did not cause complaints in the error log. I dedicate these points for the meticulous construction by its author, and for its commitment to its flavor above else (graphics aside).

Three flavor points are awarded to DPh Kraken!

Also a poll is now up top for voting on your favorite match of the tournament.

As for the identity of the Golden Kobold's author, we may never know. All they sent in to identify themselves was this single picture, which presumably depicts the author.

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[Eric Blank]

Damn, I had bet my money on it being Putnam too. But you entered two contestants?? Heck the rules.

When the spellmaster passed out from pain and got paralyzed, I immediately suspected I had bamboozled myself and forgot to make it immune to its own sword poison that got spread back onto it. But apparently its some sort of extract from the " "? If you hit it enough, it bleeds. It bleeds your death.

Needless to say I'm going to pull that thing apart and steal some things do R&D

[jecowa]

That was cool seeing Spellmaster some punches in against .

I think that was the longest match ever in the Chasm. Here's why it looked like Phoeball fell in the Chasm. After transforming, Phoeball no longer had the ability to fly and was only still in the air because it was biting onto Supreme Profanity's third left upper arm. After Supreme Profanity's arm broke off, Phoeball fell into the Chasm with it.

In The Scuttler vs Adamantine Monster, I wasn't sure who would win with them both dying, but not at the same time.

I just did some Internet searches trying to figure out what a flavor point is. It looks like things worthy of flavor points are things that are not useful, but are done because they are done for maybe fun. Here was the only example I was able to find (most were about cooking or dieting). Context is board game designing:

Bonus flavor points if you push the stacks around the map with a croupier stick or a plotting rod.

Also, I'm generating a 1050-year-old world right now with all the creatures. Haven't been watching it much, but saw Spellcaster and Beezlebub mentioned in the abridged chronicle so far.

And looked through some of the creature files a little so far. It looks like Spellcaster had a body part planned that was a bunch of sword-shaped hands. It seems to be unused, though

Also looked at Golden Kobold, looks like a normal Kobold but with maxed agility, larger gaits, and the ability to transform. Even though the code isn't very long, I'm unable to figure out how it decides which creature to turn into. It's hint for transformation is fleeing.

The graphic for Black Pudding seems anatomically-correct. Made up of 4 pieces called SPOROCARPS that have the ability to grasp.

[Wolfkey]

For the next titanfest, i will probably put a lot more effort into my creature.

[jecowa]

Abridged abridged chronicle of Ötstuxxûza, (which, translated from Goblin, means "The Cyclopean Domain")

In the midspring of 863, Ibruk named the spellmaster titan Avatar of Fate Kutsmob Grossmaligned as the successor of One Hit KOs in Rimtaught.
Still The Age of Myth in 863.

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A lot of the events feature different spellmaster titans taking over sites of the One Hit KOs.

In the early spring of 933, the phoenix flame Ebbak Flareheated the Warm routed The Whirling Poisons of The Dark Ghoul and destroyed Tormentwretch.

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In the early winter of 935, The Paints of Dying defeated The Confining Roughnesses and pillaged Loveboat.

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Just liked the name "Loveboat"

In the midauthumn of 974, The Possibilities Of The Pink Cult was created in Trumpetmartyred by the beelzebub, tenebris ignis Princely Dweeb of Hell Iden Tomesworked.

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In the early winter of 1027, the beelzebub, tenebris ignis Princely Dweeb of Hell Kosoth Kindbolted learned The legendary cheapass martial art of whatever this does, because I couldn't figure out how to obsidian cast people. So one-hit KO is a bit of a misnomer from The Occult Heavens.

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In the late winter of 1037, The Empire of Guards defeated The Plates of Extrication and placed the adamantine monster Faintedtears the Confident in charge of Bandbranded. The new government was called The Dignified Society.
In the early spring of 1038, Ibruk named the spellmaster titan Avatar of Fate Ilral Paddleclutch as the successor of One Hit KOs in Rimtaught.

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In the late winter of 1049, Dwarf Fortress.exe has stopped working. Windows can check online for a solution to the problem.

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It was still the Age of Myth.

[Rumrusher]

congrats to the winner of this fest, and the tourney owner for running this event.
do feel like the wagonification stuff would totally not work if shifted into adv mode as the current fort mode view of the game has code to auto scuttle any non attached to creatures wagons... which probably sets up for just lighting them on fire next tick.

[jecowa]

The Scuttler would still win in adventure mode, right?

Also, I'm redoing the Black Pudding vs Nightmare of Slade fight. Black Pudding has the Nightmare of Slade grasped by the head and is shaking it around. Black Pudding has no vision, but is otherwise just fine. Nightmare of Slade is exhausted, blind, can't stand or fly, has a smashed upper and lower body and a dented upper leg. Its right foot is gone. Black Pudding keeps trying to corrode the Nightmare of Slade's head while shaking it around, but it keeps glancing away. Nightmare of Slade has been passed out most of the fight, but sometimes briefly regains consciousness before immediately passing out again. It's Winter now.

I was wondering what ideas you guys had about what do differently next time or thoughts for how to improve this in the future. I was thinking maybe 2 divisions - no obby-casting and anything-goes. You can submit 1 creature in each division.

[voliol]

A titanfest well done! Thank you dikbutdagrate for managing this, and to all contestants for entering mighty beasts!! I'm looking forwards to next year

As for the unstoppable-ness of " "'s obsidian casting, and the suggestion that for next year only kills in the slain count may be valid, I am not sure I agree.

On one hand, it is an interesting idea with clear positives. It effectively bans obsidian casting, which we can (probably) all agree is too strong to be interesting in coming tournaments. If obsidian casting continues to be legal and no counter-play is found, then the only titans with a chance of winning will be obsidian casters, and for them it will be a coin-toss tournament. That makes for a boring tournament, and we don't want that. The slain count also gives a clear winning definition.

On the other hand, restricting it to slain count also hurts other strategies, which are not OP. Summoning strategies would be much weaker, if you risk a draw should your summons lethally wound the opponent, and transforming your opponent into a self-destructing puff of smoke too would be banned. And probably more too. The cases where one titan fell to their death while the other didn't, seem to me like theu should be a win for better preparation on the surviving titan's end, and not a draw for failure to hurt the opponents sufficiently before they splat. And I don't know how drowning/air-drowning/burning to death/certain syndrome deaths work, but surely there are interesting, non-OP strategies that cause the opponent's death without ticking up the slain count.

In addition, the slain count might not be enough to block all OP cointoss abilities. In fact, if self-transformation was not on the table as protection, transforming your opponent would be an OP cointoss ability (if set up optimally). And sure, poofing your opponents doesn't add to the slain count, but transforming them into a harmless creature and then laying waste to it with physical attacks does. Luckily transform protection does exist, but it proves an ability could be a OP cointoss, and still add to the slain count.

Using the slain count would both block interesting abilities, and not be sufficient to block all OP cointosses.

Instead, I propose a ban on any strategy that guarantees a win and comes down to a cointoss if both contestants use it, once that strategy has been proven in the tournament. The dominance of " " was quite a sight, and I don't believe modders should be punished for discovering new such strategies. Still, this means that obsidian casting would be banned for the coming year, and so would any emerging OP strategy, once they get their time in the spotlight.

[jecowa]

I agree with voliol that it might be better to only ban specific moves so that people have more freedom to come up with cool new things.

And if only specific moves are banned, what are people's thoughts on scuttling? Or any thoughts on any other moves that should be limited in any way?

And if people think it could be possible to counter obby-casting somehow, maybe there should still be a division that allows anything? But I guess that'd be boring if no one ever came up with anything. Maybe there's some way to make yourself immune to obby casting.

[dikbutdagrate]

In the early winter of 1027, the beelzebub, tenebris ignis Princely Dweeb of Hell Kosoth Kindbolted learned The legendary cheapass martial art of whatever this does, because I couldn't figure out how to obsidian cast people. So one-hit KO is a bit of a misnomer from The Occult Heavens.

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In the late winter of 1037, The Empire of Guards defeated The Plates of Extrication and placed the adamantine monster Faintedtears the Confident in charge of Bandbranded. The new government was called The Dignified Society.
In the early spring of 1038, Ibruk named the spellmaster titan Avatar of Fate Ilral Paddleclutch as the successor of One Hit KOs in Rimtaught.

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In the late winter of 1049, Dwarf Fortress.exe has stopped working. Windows can check online for a solution to the problem.

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It was still the Age of Myth.

Oh man, that was the funniest post I've seen all week. That was excellent.

Instead, I propose a ban on any strategy that guarantees a win and comes down to a cointoss if both contestants use it, once that strategy has been proven in the tournament. The dominance of " " was quite a sight, and I don't believe modders should be punished for discovering new such strategies. Still, this means that obsidian casting would be banned for the coming year, and so would any emerging OP strategy, once they get their time in the spotlight.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... HMMMMMMMMMMMM....

Voliol, why do you have go and start putting forth reasonable arguments like that?  Alright, alright, ALRIGHT. You've mostly convinced me.

Although, about the summoning of creatures bit, I am not only fine with player summons needing to be carefully constructed, so as to not potentially ruin their summoner's win, but I am extremely enthusiastic about the implications. I do agree that there are a myriad of ways that games could potentially result in unnecessary and almost patently stupid instances of a draw. However, the burden of this challenge should not be construed as overly cumbersome by the modders, but rather, as a challenge worthy of their skills. The nature of this very arena is to provide a venue for which to test this very thing, yeah? That's my two cents.

For those interested, for next year, Armok help me if we end up doing this again, we can either do:
1.) Creature interactions can no longer feature I_EFFECT:CREATE_ITEM, which create instances of water or magma.
Or
2.) Creature interactions can no longer feature I_EFFECT:CREATE_ITEM, which create instances of both WATER and MAGMA, within the same interaction.
      2-i.) Games 3, and potentially 4, of a match must be held on a neutral non-player generated arena.  I think you could imagine why, if players submit their own arenas, where both players spawn knee deep in magma, and one of the creatures starts spawning in water.
     (Note: It does seem rather likely that would ensure that all games go to game 3.)
3.) Go with the original idea about needing your creature to actually score the kill on the original creature.

Its up to the people participating in the tournament, really. This whole thing is for them, after all.


I am less than happy about the introduction of rules of this variety, but after considering the argument you put forth, I'm reluctantly inclined to agree. Rule number the first is really the only option, in the event that players are allowed to submit their own arenas.  Unless of course, players would prefer rule #3, as this places less actual restrictions on what they can type into their raws.

Also looked at Golden Kobold, looks like a normal Kobold but with maxed agility, larger gaits, and the ability to transform. Even though the code isn't very long, I'm unable to figure out how it decides which creature to turn into. It's hint for transformation is fleeing.

Oh? I thought it was pretty self explanatory. The raws here are from the syndrome that Kobold applies to itself during a match, rather than the automatic one that the Golden Kobold can spawn in with, which is a little better.

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[I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_IMMEDIATE]
[SYNDROME]
[SYN_CONCENTRATION_ADDED:1000:0]
[SYN_CLASS:GIANT_BOGEYMAN_SYNDROME]
[CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION:START:5:PEAK:5:END:20:ABRUPT]
[CE:FORBIDDEN_CREATURE_FLAG:SMALL_RACE]
[CE:FORBIDDEN_CREATURE_CASTE_FLAG:NATURAL_ANIMAL]
[CE:FORBIDDEN_CREATURE_CASTE_FLAG:IMMOBILE_LAND]
[CE:CREATURE_CASTE_FLAG:NO_CONNECTIONS_FOR_MOVEMENT]
[CE:CREATURE_CASTE_FLAG:NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]
[CE:CREATURE_CASTE_FLAG:NOSTUN]
[CE:CREATURE_CASTE_FLAG:PARALYZEIMMUNE]
[CE:CREATURE_CASTE_FLAG:EXTRAVISION]

So the way this works, make sure you're check interaction_golden_kobold.txt, is that it uses a number of carefully considered creature flags to prevent it from turning into anything from the vanilla raws (which is kind of unnecessary), and then cause it to only transform into the creatures which include all of these extremely good tags, of which non exist by default, so as to prevent turning into some kind of demon or angel. The mod also assumes that the caste flags listed, NOSTUN, EXTRAVISION, etc. are must have tags for seriously competitive creatures which are submitted for the tournament. Consequently, the Golden Kobold will only transform into those particular creatures.

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Several people have PM'd me their flavor point allocation. Just waiting on a few more, and we'll call it.

[jecowa]

I didn't realize how tricky it would be to ban obby casting

I tested pitting   against   in a Watermaze map and took away their ability to spawn water. They seemed unable to obby cast each other even though they still had the ability to spawn magma.

Then I tried the opposite and gave them back the ability to spawn water but took their ability to spawn magma and put them in Latermaze, which was Watermaze but with the water replaced with magma. Even though they're in 7/7 magma and have the ability to spawn water, they don't seem to be able to obby cast.

But maybe it would be better to go with the original idea. Your original creature has to score the kill on your opponent's original creature, right?

This was something I wasn't sure about the rules on for the current tournament. What if it's Supreme Profanity vs The Scuttler. In its first move, Supreme Profanity makes two clones of itself. Then The Scuttler scuttles the original Profanity. Then the two clones kill the Scuttler. There are still two Profanities left, but the original is gone.

If the original creature has to score the kill, then the tournament would lean more towards two creatures fighting each other instead of two armies of creatures fighting.

Edit: Also, I tested a version of   that can't obby-cast. It still one-shot most everyone by scuttling them.

[xzaxza]

On the other hand, restricting it to slain count also hurts other strategies, which are not OP. Summoning strategies would be much weaker, if you risk a draw should your summons lethally wound the opponent, and transforming your opponent into a self-destructing puff of smoke too would be banned. And probably more too. The cases where one titan fell to their death while the other didn't, seem to me like theu should be a win for better preparation on the surviving titan's end, and not a draw for failure to hurt the opponents sufficiently before they splat. And I don't know how drowning/air-drowning/burning to death/certain syndrome deaths work, but surely there are interesting, non-OP strategies that cause the opponent's death without ticking up the slain count.

We could count slay counts of summoned units; as long as it's your creature or something that summoned it that got the kill.