Huh.
So,
Verm.
I benefit from people who are already dead
Tell us more? This seems different from your 'day can target a dead person to create wincon whatever with them', as that's not a benefit other than 'whew, I don't instalose' and nobody considers that a 'benefit', right?
Also, Verm, I'd like to hear you explain the apparent inconsistencies here:
Once a player has won or lost, they leave the game. They may no longer post in the thread, can no longer action or be targeted, and so forth.
My day action can be used on any dead player, whether they are in the game or not, prevents actions from or against them, and checks them off of my list.
In what way can you target what can't be targeted, or what else is going on in your mech claim there?
TricMagic,
And on the next night does Vermillion fall to crystal net.
Why do you think she 'nets' at night?
My mission is simple, interact with all. No qualms, no lynch, I win my game.
I'm cool with this. It's also what Verm claimed, except he claims to give a wound to those he visits, which is incidental and not needed for his wincon. If I understand right, Tric doesn't cause wounds?
As is, you lose as soon as I can no longer win.
From the claims both Tric and Verm seem likely to lose.
If anyone wins who either didn't visit yet; if anyone loses who either didn't visit yet; if anyone dies who Tric didn't visit yet (unless there's a chance that person comes back to life?)
Maybe there's a way to tie their visits together or something, so anyone visited by either counts as both. That's not in my bag of tricks this game so I have no idea; as is you both seem very likely to lose quick if all claims are true. But that seems weird, so there's probably a way one or both of you could be saved.
Crystalizedmire, I'm confused. Would you please clearly state who you need to kill (not who you guess you need to kill) for your wincon? If you don't know please find out. Like, is it everyone who currently has the status undead, everyone who can convert alignment (that's a key difference. Status is not alignment!) or what.
Imp&Fallacy: I am technically hunting a status condition caused by the cult called [undead].
Imp: If you currently have a status that is given to you by the modifier, then you count as a cult member for my wincon.
I win when there is no one in the cult, including the cult leader. Also, you seem to speak favourably about the cult, are you the cult leader, Imp?
Yes I'm sure it is a cult and I one that I explicitly cannot win with.
I have role info that there is a cult in the game. The cult members could act twice per night and could also convert others. I can offer protection to others but I can only pick one person per day.
At very least 1 piece of this quoted info has to be false. Maybe many pieces of that quoted info. Maybe you're just confused or mis-spoke. I'm trying to coordinate a win with you, accuracy and honesty matters.
I suspect you're in a panic and you probably should be, but I'm still not (one of) your wincon-needed-death(s) unless you're lying or there's stuff you don't understand thus are giving misinformation about. I have no status conditions, I have no modifiers, and I cannot change anyone's alignment Additionally the word 'undead' is not part of my role name or alignment name, neither is 'zombie', 'vampire', 'mummy', 'ghost', 'Frankenstein', or any other word that means an undead thing. If you win when there's nobody with the status undead - then there's someone who already has that status and they already know that you need them dead; find them and handle that. If you win when there's nobody who has the status 'undead' - I can work around that. While some things I can do would create the status undead, for me it's incidental; not everything I do carries that 'undead' status and I don't need the 'undead' status in play for my wincon.
Explicitly: The candy I give, if eaten, and any wounds I treat will not cause the target to gain the status 'undead'. People can interact with me on those levels without getting entangled in this 'undead' stuff to the limit of my knowledge, and I'm tempted to see how this tension between CM and her 'cult target' plays out before I risk making that more complex.
Crystalizedmire, I really wonder:
1) If you win, you leave play. What happens to you after that? Like if I haven't won yet, you win, and then I add undead status to the game? You already won, you're safe and don't have to care, right? Please find out and confirm.
2) If the undead status folks currently in play happen to win, they leave play. Do you have to kill them/prevent their win, in order for you to win at all? Or can you help speed their win/they happen to win anyway, which takes them out of play, thus setting up your wincon and you then leave play. And then I don't have to worry about cult or its cult hunter and can play with my non-offensive undead status tag stuff if seems useful for me and/or anyone else?
Imp don't be scared, I can offer you some reassurance. I'm not an sk or a cultist or anything like that. I don't mean you any harm at all.
The main reason I'm not speaking is that I'm not entirely sure what to say or what questions to ask. I'm used to working together with town to find scum, and this is an altogether different situation. As soon as I figure out what to do and how to navigate this I'll get a little more talkative.
What if anything are you willing to say about how you do win, or things that might make winning harder or easier for you? Has anything anyone's said yet made you think you could help them or they could help you, or does anyone sound like they might actually be against your wincon?
Can you eat candy?
Do you think you might be able to achieve your wincon fairly early in the game?
Is the gameplay making sense to you so far? What do you understand of each players' position and what each is concerned about and/or wants?
I'm not gonna tell you my wincon, and I'm not sure why you think the 'yes' has anything to do with me, but I certainly don't need to win this phase. I can win whenever as long as I stay alive, unless there's something else that can stop me that I don't know about.
That doesn't mean I trust the idea of being visited either, though.
I was speculating on the yes thing. I don't know anything about that vote target or why it's there; you did mention
I could win right now with a little cooperation. But I feel like that would rob me of the fun of figuring stuff out, too.
Umm, a hammer of 'yes' could fit that. Except we have no information about if hammers are in play.
Imp, I intend to give you a small gift at the end of day, if you'll say yes to it.
Yes came into the vocabulary there.
I don't have any information to share right now, but I am wondering how we're going to come to a consensus on who to vote today. Maybe we try to vote the person who'll interfere with more people's wincons, but still that's quite hard to determine.
I think I'm just going to vote yes, thanks.
Definitely appears to be affirmative action that could use some cooperation. But that's all spec and circumstantial information, but it's why I think that 'Yes' vote and you are maybe connected.