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[TricMagic]

As of right now we likely need a 2 vote difference to prevent a tie from occurring. Be it from Fal or Oliver. I could doublecheck from my phone near deadline, but would rather not have to. Elephant, in the case of a tie, who/what decides the lynch?

[Oliverz144]

You're not thinking, just reacting. Is it murder if we lynch you? Yes, very much so. I can't call you out on a lie if you never tell us your role abilities in the first place as well. If you did and my check revealed a lie.. Well, that's proof enough. So you're not likely to actually reveal your role abilities.

To be fair, you could try and weasel out by saying your ability evolved overnight. Which is a cop-out and a half...

since when are you even a role cop??

[FallacyofUrist]

I believe that in the event of a tie, the scum decide who's executed. I'm not sure how much I like that rule myself, but it does discourage ties.

Something something vote Oliverz to save my own skin. No. Spin is scum. I will literally die on this hill if I have to.

[Oliverz144]

Bit late in the day, but take your best shot. It might be the only one.

... Ninja?

Mechanically Wolf bussed Crystal, which caused Crystals action to bounce back on to them. Followed by blocking Crystal. So it would have to be those two as a team alongside 4mask. Being honest don't really think it's the case.

Oliver can't fullclaim cause I'd see an inconsistency and just |murder| them. That's exactly the sort of situation my power comes in handy. If they fullclaim my action tonight is 100% going to be checking that claim.

Two teams makes more sense to me than 3 mafia, even if the latter could be true. Or even SK. Someone with an alignment investigation should check wolf though.

interesting how You apparently now also have a killing ability?
What a nice and unique ability to claim...

It's called calling you out on the lie Oliver. Which will get me on you. And hopefully lynch you.

what lie?
what did i do wrong?
You are talking cryptic, and not answering my questions

The 'murder' above is a joke. Assuming that you actually full-claimed your role, which you have not, Tric would be able to check your abilities to confirm you didn't lie to us. Assuming you did lie, Tric would immediately call you out on it, causing you to be lynched.

oh ok
so you want me to fullclaim, got it!
i trust you verm, and so i will do it and then go to sleep, ok? its 1.30 am

[Elephant Parade]

Elephant, in the case of a tie, who/what decides the lynch?

This is explained in the OP:

- If the vote is tied at the end of the day, the decision of which tied candidate to select is made by the first surviving anti-town faction in this list: Mafia, Alt-Mafia, Cult, Serial Killer, Outsider.

[Oliverz144]

Gift of Progression
High Druid
Ritual of Induction
Ritual of Communion
Ritual of Protection
Ritual of Empowerment
Ritual of Concealment
thats it i think
now it looks kinda culty ngl written like that
but basically i have a night chat

[Oliverz144]

now im going to be flavorsoupkilled by 4masks mafis team i guess? whatever, reading up a few posts and going to sleep. Good night!

[Imp]

I'm now wondering if something like this is happening for Oliverz this game:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj63TDpaBWk with him as the Parasyte.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGFXueGPFJQ  be nice if he can do that to scum; some 'pet' ally that joins whoever side he targets.  No idea, just playing with ideas here.

Oliverz, Tric can verify abilities; both name and how it works.  It's a type of 'cop', but he can't tell us if his target is town or not - but he knows Wolfkey has an ability called masquerade and reported that FoU has one called 'corpulent bulk' or however that's spelled and told us some stuff about both.

He's 'asking' you to full claim - but really all he can verify is abilities.  He's saying 'tell him/all what your abilities are, and he intends to double check; if you lie he tells us all'.  So far he hasn't lied about what he said FoU and Wolfkey had.

You also don't have to claim your role name, like if you're 'Parasyte' you could leave that out and just say the abilities, he can't check and MAYBE nobody can target by abilities.

You don't have to claim, but it could be useful.

But Tric doesn't claim he has a kill, just that he wants you to walk into a trap that will catch you if you lie, and even help him confirm you were honest about the ability he inspects if that happens.

EBWOP

Huh, loads of stuff.

Unlikely to be a soup kill based on ability names.  Role name MAYBE, but we have ability names known for 3 folks now.

[Oliverz144]

Oliver, the lack of night 2 result is the nail that will seal your coffin. If someone has a gun they are welcome to kill me. I'd rather they not, but Jim did.

T(oony)m(an) fair on the bastardish bits in my non-labeled games? But more the fact that Mind Control is something Imp as the Butler of Butlers had to deal with. Eh..

That's not the sort of response I'd expect Oliver. Well, unless you and Fal are teamed so you don't want any sort of discussion. Easier to call me the crazy one than potentially get the vote back on Fal from participating.

i. am. a. one. shot. cop.
I don't have a belt, i dont have a magazine, i dont have a clip, I don't have a revolver drum, i dont even have a double barrelled gun. one shot.
one shot... or one opportunity...
To seize everything you ever wanted... one moment...
Would you capture it? Or just let it slip?
After that, i got the positive result, i grew, i evolved, call it whatever you want. My Mech calls it "Progression".

You called me the right inspection, right?

Magma, i did pick the right Target =) You don't know everything and i dont plan on telling you =)

Oliverz, Would you have gotten more chances to find 'the right Target', or would you have been stuck with whomever you inspected first?

I could inspect this slot, but I now wonder if I'd get a real result, similar to how 4mask would shift if they could take a dead person's ability, I wonder if Oliverz now looks a bit like me.  Well, I'd probably notice that whenever I do inspect Oliverz, should he be alive to be inspected.

Two sets of my abilities in play would be nice as long as we're both town.  I don't expect that would/could happen, and Oliverz would have a new inspect ability from having 'become Imp', so that's surely not the mechanic going on.

... Progression.  Just hope he's not the monster 'melanoma' or similar ilk.  Do I have an Oliverz-sized tapeworm?  walks away muttering, then stops to ask,

Oliverz.  What do you think about full-claiming?  Think it would help or hurt you, think it would help or hurt town?

If you think it would hurt town for you to claim, imagine you're about to be today's elim.  Think it helps town more to flip you, or you to claim?

yeah i claimed, i just don't want to do whatever trigmagic or mater command me to do cause they got some idk what going on,
for example when Trig wanted juicebox and me to scumcase each other for no reason at all, i guess it was to make a TvT thunderdome for this day 4??
Ninjaed by my memory
I had to find town with my one shot in order to progress. Since i townread you and you wanted to be targeted, i did it =)

[Oliverz144]

I'm now wondering if something like this is happening for Oliverz this game:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj63TDpaBWk with him as the Parasyte.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGFXueGPFJQ  be nice if he can do that to scum; some 'pet' ally that joins whoever side he targets.  No idea, just playing with ideas here.

Oliverz, Tric can verify abilities; both name and how it works.  It's a type of 'cop', but he can't tell us if his target is town or not - but he knows Wolfkey has an ability called masquerade and reported that FoU has one called 'corpulent bulk' or however that's spelled and told us some stuff about both.

He's 'asking' you to full claim - but really all he can verify is abilities.  He's saying 'tell him/all what your abilities are, and he intends to double check; if you lie he tells us all'.  So far he hasn't lied about what he said FoU and Wolfkey had.

You also don't have to claim your role name, like if you're 'Parasyte' you could leave that out and just say the abilities, he can't check and MAYBE nobody can target by abilities.

You don't have to claim, but it could be useful.

But Tric doesn't claim he has a kill, just that he wants you to walk into a trap that will catch you if you lie, and even help him confirm you were honest about the ability he inspects if that happens.

EBWOP

Huh, loads of stuff.

Unlikely to be a soup kill based on ability names.  Role name MAYBE, but we have ability names known for 3 folks now.

oh ok, yeah the firsts was my role before and the laters i got now

[Oliverz144]

good  night. You know what to do
See you tomorrow!

[Imp]

I read 4maskwolf's posts like you asked, Imp. I don't think he's paired with Oliverz. 4mask's attacks on Oliverz look like mafia trying to push town, not distancing.

Thanks, was wondering in general what you think he's trying to do.  That's a thing you notice that he's trying to do, is that all you caught?

[VermilionSkies]

Wolfkey.
Having Wolf hold this for now.

That.. looks like a town set of abilities from Oliver. Enough so that I don't really want to lynch them this day.
If I had to vote one out of Fallacy and Max right now, it'd be Fallacy. Not for any particular read-based reason, but their role is incredibly scary in concept and we can't ever confirm them as town with an alignment inspect.
I'd prefer to vote one of Wolfkey or CM today, as they both have been ambiguous enough to where I'd like to see the flip.

[Maximum Spin]

I personally suspect that Fallacy is mafia and may already be bulletproof (why would it be "two people must die" specifically?), so I'd like to see him lynched, but regardless, I have what I think is a reasonable set of night plans for any outcome. As always, do what you individually think is best.

[TricMagic]

To Oliver, I made that suggestion of building cases on each other cause your two were lurking. Wolf did too but I already had a result on them, not mentioning them freely offering their second ability action. You have completely and utterly failed to build any case today. Not even against me.

That said the role claim is internally consistent I guess. Even if it's just ability names. Way too many for me to read given my investigation is random but eh.