Right.
Looking back at 4mask's Day 1 posts:Crystallized Mire is my first town lean.
Unlike some people (cough Spin cough), 4maskwolf is scum willing to indicate reads of people. Doesn't really say anything definitive about Spin and Max's relationship, though, given that day chat isn't a thing and as such scum are much less able to coordinate.
The more interesting question will be if 4mask's read on Mire changes.
Tric being weirdly paranoid about things is very classic town TricMagic. My only reservation is that he's specifically paranoid about an SK which is a fairly wolfy things to be worried about on D1 with no evidence of their existance.
Reasonable observations, or defending a partner? Not easy to say.
The one where you try to be webadict but don't succeed.
"Look, isn't it cool how I'm going to tie everything back to fear? Fear is cool, isn't it? So by extension, that means I'm cool. Cool and in control. And definitely not panicking, hahaha, wouldn't that be so funny good thing it isn't true help? Sorry, did I just say help? Must have been a slip of the tongue. I'm in control. Fear. I mean fear~."
Calling it now this is going to be the best quote of the game.
I'm actually dying over here.
This is still hilarious. And (within the reread) so far the only interaction, however tangential, Mask's had with Spin.
For what it’s worth I think Magma is town like my accuser was last game too, his takes are bad but not wolfy.
Reads Magma as town.
I have to wonder what his wolf-y game plan for the reads is, though.
Divert suspicion towards town? Divert suspicion away from his team? Just attempting to emulate town as best possible so he blends in well?
I try to avoid wasting my time pretending to have strong wolfreads D1. People like to lie to themselves that finding wolves D1 is reliably possible but all reads are just vibes. I prefer to find people I think are town and have collected a few. The problem with Bay12 games is that people post so little (and so many people have downright bizarre playstyles) that my usual town finding strategies aren’t turning up many results.
The worst part of it all is how much this makes sense from a town-point-of-view. For all that other perspectives are entirely possible.
I’ll be honest, from my perspective it reads almost exactly the same. You both accuse me of being wishy-washy, you both accuse me of taking the game seriously, you both accuse me of not having reads despite quoting posts where I definitively had reads, and you both saw one post you hated and then confhiased yourself into thinking the rest of my ISO was wolfy.
I don’t have wolf reads this game because my “wolf reads” last game were basically the only players who didn’t have anything going for them. And there’s, like, five? People I have literally no opinion of because they’ve posted so little of substance.
I think you’re more likely town than not. I think Tric is in his town range adjusted for a recent uptick in 3P paranoia. I think Imp is broadly townie even though I don’t like the whole “look at me I’m town” thing. I’d oppose any of those three eliminations today.
Also NQT you’re a nerd.
Granted, if you refuse to look for scum Day 1, you're also wasting your chance at using the execution properly. Similar to Max in that way, at least.
Come to think about it, I'm not sure Max has ever once said who he
trusts during the Day. Finds me scummy, yes. Voted several other people, yes, but where's the town reads?
Okay lunchtime over I read up to about page 13.
Short version.
Fallacy is fine.
Vermillion is fine for now.
AP and the wrong Wolf both scream “newbie”, or at least coming from an insular community with an unusual playstyle, so they are going to be a nightmare for me to solve. If I had to pick one to shoot it would probably be Wolf because while AP’s read list is nonsense it’s at least something. If this were a game with ITAs I’d happily toss these two on a shotlist and never look back.
Juice I felt underwhelmed by but just made a big post I have to read. Will reevaluate after but my initial thoughts are “could be a wolf”.
The way Oliverz writes inflicts psychic damage on me so I’ll have to reread later to get an opinion.
CM is basically fin, I still think their initial posts aren’t wolfy.
Max has mastered the art of saying little while posting. While his post on Fallacy was hilarious there’s nothing there that screams “town” to me.
Eventually reads null on a lot of people. Which may or may not be a more generalizable tell. Downgraded CM to null.
At what point does an absence of towniness become scummy?
Maximum Spin
I would unironically take my own elimination over a no elim, at least then the rest of the town gets information.
Does vote Max, does not comment on it whatsoever.
At this point both me and Magma Mater were voting on the same wagon. Never updated his read on Magma from 'town' by this point.
Day 3 line break.But I actually believe you because I know my role, and I'm kicking myself for not claiming the absolutely bizarre alignment fuckery that is my role, I assumed it wouldn't be relevant until I had a chance to act at which point it would be more useful to the town. Because now my claim is going to, at best, cause chaos.
I start the game as a miller and what alignment I peek as changes based on who I target with my day action or any night actions I gain with it. My day action only works on dead players so I have not gotten a chance to use it, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't work with outside gifted actions so unfortunately I can't be inspected right now to determine juicebox's alignment.
Extremely scummy in hindsight, but hindsight always makes things clear. I was reluctant to vote him because I'd see this sort of garbage as a viable town drawback ability.
I'd use it myself, even.
But 4mask seems like the sort of player who would claim this early if he was actually town.
If I understand the mech correctly exactly one of Vermillion or Oliverz is a wolf.
Escalates to indicating scumminess, finally, which he didn't do much of Day 1.
Of course, this is ability-based only.
Mask, Imp investigated me as town. Unless I am a bullet-proof kill-aware bodyguard, who also can read the night results of dead players, who is also a godfather, I'm fairly confirmed by now.
Right I blanked on that.
Then that means exactly Oliverz is a wolf, if we trust Imp's inspect.
I'm not entirely sure I trust Imp but I'm willing to treat the inspection as valid for now.
Escalates to a vote. First actually driven vote of the game, notably.
Good afternoon.
Y'all are gonna kill me regardless so I'm just gonna ignore y'all and solve for a while so you'll have a legacy to go off of.
I found this townie initially, but in retrospect it matches my own behavior from what was it, some BYOR or another where after receiving too much town pressure I just gave up on defense and said that as town if I can't defend myself I should just look for who's scummy. (I was scum in that game.)
It doesn't work. As town you're better off actually trying to defend yourself.
No matter how exhausting, frustrating, and demeaning it is defending yourself against a wagon of four players that's being orchestrated by scum.
That's the price of playing mafia, sometimes. You pay in pieces of your brain for the satisfaction of outwitting people just as clever as you are.
After that is the day-end posts. The problem of course is that he's scum. We can't read minds (unless you're Magma Mater as per Day 1 discussion), so unfortunately I have no way of knowing what depth of mind-games he's playing with the day-end read posts.
The most straightforwards would be scum-reading Max to taint my own attack against Max.
I think the analysis Wolf posted is valid even if he is scum. It doesn't magically make Spin town to have Wolf scum-read him and get voted out by him.
I still think it's
Maximum Spin. Sorry. There
are some play similarities between the two of them.
Maskwolf did vote Spin Day 1, but that was while the no-elimination wagon was already building up, which Spin then immediately hopped onto.
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