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[4maskwolf]

Alright I think I have time for one more.

I'm missing wolfkey, animepigeon, and Tric, anyone I trust who posts in the next five minutes gets to dictate otherwise I'm going animepigeon because that's fewer posts than tric and more content than wolfkey.

[Imp]

Alright I think I have time for one more.

I'm missing wolfkey, animepigeon, and Tric, anyone I trust who posts in the next five minutes gets to dictate otherwise I'm going animepigeon because that's fewer posts than tric and more content than wolfkey.

I was too slow to vote, but I'm interested in hearing what you say about AP/Hector13.

[4maskwolf]

Alright I think I have time for one more.

I'm missing wolfkey, animepigeon, and Tric, anyone I trust who posts in the next five minutes gets to dictate otherwise I'm going animepigeon because that's fewer posts than tric and more content than wolfkey.

I was too slow to vote, but I'm interested in hearing what you say about AP/Hector13.

You posted one minute after me lol.

I think the forum clock is 6-7 minutes behind because I got thrown for a loop by that too.

[Imp]

Alright I think I have time for one more.

I'm missing wolfkey, animepigeon, and Tric, anyone I trust who posts in the next five minutes gets to dictate otherwise I'm going animepigeon because that's fewer posts than tric and more content than wolfkey.

I was too slow to vote, but I'm interested in hearing what you say about AP/Hector13.

You posted one minute after me lol.

I think the forum clock is 6-7 minutes behind because I got thrown for a loop by that too.

Aha, yes!

Tric is also interesting.  I already have fairly strong concerns about Wolfkey, but there's so little to read I am surprised if you see area of concern I missed.

AP devours my attention, and Tric gets a share.  So for me it's best to hear you out on AP; I'll hear you out on the rest too.

[FallacyofUrist]

Right.

With regards to your post on CM, I have to agree that some parts of her behavior just aren't internally consistent. It makes me concerned, though, because I can't read everyone as scum.

It's also possible it's a 2-teams-of-2 scum situation, which would open up further questions and possibilities.

I wouldn't wholly discount a 3-teams-of-2 situation, but that's a bit absurd.

Would explain the glut of ultra-powerful town roles, though.

2 teams of 3 is right out for a game this size.

With regards to your post on Oliverz, I have a very simple conclusion of my own - he has no idea how to play the game. Not currently, at least.

Which would make him more likely town due to the chaotic behavior of a newbie, but day mentoring by other scum members isn't possible in a game without day chat, so instead he's just going to be an absolute pain to try and read.

Less likely to be scum than CM, I think.

[Crystalizedmire]

Havent been active lately, so Im going to respond to posts that I feel I should respond to.
4maskwolf: I didnt want to make a read of anime pigeon who was being replaced at the time. While I find the play scummy, the fact they dropped out of the game probably means they were genuinely busy rather than scum. JB I forgot they existed. They seem townie?
 Re: me think Oliverz has an ability that preventa ability loss/theft
I have an ability that prevents me from losing abilities.

[4maskwolf]

AnimePigeon had no idea what he was doing.

I mean that's like, the coldest take of all time, but it's true.

So the question is whether that's in a wolfy way or a townie way.

I actually went and quickly ISOd his D1 stuff in a couple MU games to see if I could pin his posts this game to a specific meta and lolno, I have no idea what he was doing this game because his wolf and towngames elsewhere actually have content.

-Imp megapost removed-

Regarding 4MaskWolf, it's purely a Tonal Read, nothing too deep or that I could prove with anything to make it a clear, it's more just there vibe/energy/tone suggests them have a lot of WIM (Want it more).

Whilst this could suggest they might actually be Evil Aligned, as High WIM can be more aligned with Evil Players, I'm taking it for its flat value at the moment and operating a Innocent until Proven Guilty Approach to 4MaskWolf.

Regarding me N2 - Juicebox seeems to have successfully tracked me and they haven't (to my knowledge from what I've seen in thread) told anyone who I targeted N2, they have just confirmed I didn't target Vermilion.

So if you or Vermilion were under the belief that I could have attempted a Kill on Vermilion or even you, wouldn't that have just been picked up by Juicebox?

Additionally, I have explicitly stated my actions, thus Juicebox now has the opportunity to correct me if I targeted someone else than I have mentioned or he can corroborate my targeting claim for N2.

Due to your Mechanic Imp, if anything, I need to ensure you remain alive.

Although this post actually vaguely feels like a post he made in Season 11 Game 2 which was a wolf game.

OKay I literally read AP's entire ISO up until the replacement request it's a whole lot of nothing, Pigeon is another person whose reads haven't meaningfully changed or evolved all game which I'm pretty sure at this point there are literally more of those players than there are possible wolves. Step it the fuck up y'all, I know this is Bay12 but you can't rely on mechanics for everything.

AP really has two things of note going on, he suspects Mater and likes me. Those two things haven't changed all game. The problem is he disappeared off the face of the earth before the whole wagon on me really took off and replaced out because I would have been interested to see how he responded to that.

And then there's hector. Who made two posts. The first is very party line and the second is pretty much all mech.

Speaking of mech, let's talk about AP's mech. Both hector and AP claim their role is Mike Wazowski, and that they tell jokes to gain access to nebulous "stronger abilities". They claimed to target

Okay sorry I probably won't be able to finish this because my roommate got home so it's social time. The short version is the AP could be a wolf, isn't a wolf with Oliverz if Vermillion is telling the truth (and decent odds of a difference check), if Vermillion is lying then AP could be the third wolf in a Vermillion/CM team. Whether or not that slot is an arsonist who the fuck knows.

Final legacy post:

Imp, Magma, Juice, and Fallacy are probably town.

Oliverz + 2 of max/TM/Wolfkey is one possible wolf team.

CM + 1 of Vermillion/Wolfkey + 1 of the remaining non-town people is another possible one.

If multiball possibly both.

More detailed thoughts in my ISO these past five or so pages.

o7 y'all got this.

[FallacyofUrist]

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Vote Max with me?

[Imp]

AnimePigeon had no idea what he was doing.

I mean that's like, the coldest take of all time, but it's true.

So the question is whether that's in a wolfy way or a townie way.

I actually went and quickly ISOd his D1 stuff in a couple MU games to see if I could pin his posts this game to a specific meta and lolno, I have no idea what he was doing this game because his wolf and towngames elsewhere actually have content.

-Imp megapost removed-

Regarding 4MaskWolf, it's purely a Tonal Read, nothing too deep or that I could prove with anything to make it a clear, it's more just there vibe/energy/tone suggests them have a lot of WIM (Want it more).

Whilst this could suggest they might actually be Evil Aligned, as High WIM can be more aligned with Evil Players, I'm taking it for its flat value at the moment and operating a Innocent until Proven Guilty Approach to 4MaskWolf.

Regarding me N2 - Juicebox seeems to have successfully tracked me and they haven't (to my knowledge from what I've seen in thread) told anyone who I targeted N2, they have just confirmed I didn't target Vermilion.

So if you or Vermilion were under the belief that I could have attempted a Kill on Vermilion or even you, wouldn't that have just been picked up by Juicebox?

Additionally, I have explicitly stated my actions, thus Juicebox now has the opportunity to correct me if I targeted someone else than I have mentioned or he can corroborate my targeting claim for N2.

Due to your Mechanic Imp, if anything, I need to ensure you remain alive.

Although this post actually vaguely feels like a post he made in Season 11 Game 2 which was a wolf game.

OKay I literally read AP's entire ISO up until the replacement request it's a whole lot of nothing, Pigeon is another person whose reads haven't meaningfully changed or evolved all game which I'm pretty sure at this point there are literally more of those players than there are possible wolves. Step it the fuck up y'all, I know this is Bay12 but you can't rely on mechanics for everything.

AP really has two things of note going on, he suspects Mater and likes me. Those two things haven't changed all game. The problem is he disappeared off the face of the earth before the whole wagon on me really took off and replaced out because I would have been interested to see how he responded to that.

And then there's hector. Who made two posts. The first is very party line and the second is pretty much all mech.

Speaking of mech, let's talk about AP's mech. Both hector and AP claim their role is Mike Wazowski, and that they tell jokes to gain access to nebulous "stronger abilities". They claimed to target

Okay sorry I probably won't be able to finish this because my roommate got home so it's social time. The short version is the AP could be a wolf, isn't a wolf with Oliverz if Vermillion is telling the truth (and decent odds of a difference check), if Vermillion is lying then AP could be the third wolf in a Vermillion/CM team. Whether or not that slot is an arsonist who the fuck knows.

Final legacy post:

Imp, Magma, Juice, and Fallacy are probably town.

Oliverz + 2 of max/TM/Wolfkey is one possible wolf team.

CM + 1 of Vermillion/Wolfkey + 1 of the remaining non-town people is another possible one.

If multiball possibly both.

More detailed thoughts in my ISO these past five or so pages.

o7 y'all got this.

Thank you.

To clarify, even with the town inspect on Vermilion - presume I am town and honest.

You still think it likely IF Esk is town and honest, you do think Verm is a reasonable evil suspect if CM is wolf?

I wonder if this is a game with death mech that might keep us involved past death.  For sure we clearly have a fair amount of mech focusing on death.

Wishing us all the best and fascinated to see if night comes or a new day dawns immediately.

Yes, there's folks I want to see still talk if they're gonna.  But I'm not sure that I have anything else to say right now.

I'll be rereading everything 4maskwolf says after I see the flip, of course.  But I really appreciate the detailed info, and I don't think you made it expecting to survive because of your reads.  If you're actually anti-town you worked hard for days.

I am certain you are redcheck, I am not at all sure you're anti-town.

[FallacyofUrist]

You know, the worst part of immediately (hypothetically) having another Day after this one, is that we're going to be exhausted from all the discourse we've already had.

[FallacyofUrist]

Credits Song For 4maskwolf's Sacrifice

[Imp]

You know, the worst part of immediately (hypothetically) having another Day after this one, is that we're going to be exhausted from all the discourse we've already had.

We have a day between 72 and 24 hours.

ElephantParade, I request a day 4 on the longer side, I'm back at work in full as of today and all week that's so.  Exhausted==true for Imp.  We can 'pretend' the first 24 hours is like a fake night without night actions maybe, if we have enough time, if folks WANT that kinda break, and still have a decent day length if we have a long day, presuming we go from D3 to D4.

[Maximum Spin]

Imp, tell me how I should vote.

[Magma Mater]

RIP 4maskwolf
I hardly knew ye

[Magma Mater]

We don't NEED a hammer, right? Plurality is fine?