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[FallacyofUrist]

FoU, you claimed to be a cop.  Let's say we elim 4maskwolf today.  Will you be ABLE to do cop stuff tonight?

Unfortunately not, not unless two players die this Day. The earliest I'll be able to use any actions is Night 4.

Sucks.

My endless frustration with this game is that no matter how many times I point out the obvious, the scum will deflect and the town won't pay attention.

[Maximum Spin]

Imagine a world where we see Max flip, and Max was town.  Dang.  Okay, so... unless you're some wincon that just needs to see Max flip

Oh man, I didn't even think about that he could have specifically rolled me-persecutor.

I'm so sorry if that actually happened, Fal. Genuinely so, that would be some really bad luck.

Unfortunately not, not unless two players die this Day. The earliest I'll be able to use any actions is Night 4.

Fallacy, the earliest anyone will be able to use night actions is Night 4.

[4maskwolf]

If I understand the mech correctly exactly one of Vermillion or Oliverz is a wolf.

According to my understanding Imp's ability revealed to three people that they had all targeted Imp N1. One claimed a fruit vendor ability that was confirmed by Imp, one claimed bulletproof bodyguard who knows when they get hit, and one vagueposted an investigative claim.

So it's Oliverz or Vermillion who's a wolf, and it all comes down to whether your trust the claim of bulletproof aware bodyguard.

If Oliverz is a wolf AP is never paired with him off that as well I'm pretty sure. You don't fruit vend the NK target.

[FallacyofUrist]

Fallacy, the earliest anyone will be able to use night actions is Night 4.

What, you're skipping Night 3, next?

[TricMagic]

A: I gave them the power to kill town protect mafia. They did not use it to do so.
B: They took a gamble and generated a town of information. As compared to holding on to use it as a finisher when no-one knows D1 Max.

I've got to have someone to trust in this game, and as much as knowing Imp is Town is nice, that alone isn't enough in such a large game.
yes it's a meme. Not much else to say. I'm watching them.

I'd say ninja, but had to bring stuff in. yes, that is what Max has ben implying. Hence why You>Max is a valid lynch combo.

[FallacyofUrist]

A: I gave them the power to kill town protect mafia. They did not use it to do so.
B: They took a gamble and generated a town of information. As compared to holding on to use it as a finisher when no-one knows D1 Max.

What has he done, during the Day, that indicates that he's Town?

[VermilionSkies]

If I understand the mech correctly exactly one of Vermillion or Oliverz is a wolf.

According to my understanding Imp's ability revealed to three people that they had all targeted Imp N1. One claimed a fruit vendor ability that was confirmed by Imp, one claimed bulletproof bodyguard who knows when they get hit, and one vagueposted an investigative claim.

So it's Oliverz or Vermillion who's a wolf, and it all comes down to whether your trust the claim of bulletproof aware bodyguard.

If Oliverz is a wolf AP is never paired with him off that as well I'm pretty sure. You don't fruit vend the NK target.

Mask, Imp investigated me as town. Unless I am a bullet-proof kill-aware bodyguard, who also can read the night results of dead players, who is also a godfather, I'm fairly confirmed by now.

[Maximum Spin]

What has he done, during the Day, that indicates that he's Town?

Fallacy, why are you trying to convince someone you think is my scumbuddy? Unless maybe you know that's definitely not true?

[FallacyofUrist]

who also can read the night results of dead players

Uh, did you mean to claim that part? Nobody's died yet.

[4maskwolf]

If I understand the mech correctly exactly one of Vermillion or Oliverz is a wolf.

According to my understanding Imp's ability revealed to three people that they had all targeted Imp N1. One claimed a fruit vendor ability that was confirmed by Imp, one claimed bulletproof bodyguard who knows when they get hit, and one vagueposted an investigative claim.

So it's Oliverz or Vermillion who's a wolf, and it all comes down to whether your trust the claim of bulletproof aware bodyguard.

If Oliverz is a wolf AP is never paired with him off that as well I'm pretty sure. You don't fruit vend the NK target.

Mask, Imp investigated me as town. Unless I am a bullet-proof kill-aware bodyguard, who also can read the night results of dead players, who is also a godfather, I'm fairly confirmed by now.

Right I blanked on that.

Then that means exactly Oliverz is a wolf, if we trust Imp's inspect.

I'm not entirely sure I trust Imp but I'm willing to treat the inspection as valid for now.

[FallacyofUrist]

What has he done, during the Day, that indicates that he's Town?

Fallacy, why are you trying to convince someone you think is my scumbuddy? Unless maybe you know that's definitely not true?

Spite and frustration.

That, and pointing out the weaknesses in what he's proposing.

Mostly the spite and frustration, though.

[4maskwolf]

who also can read the night results of dead players

Uh, did you mean to claim that part? Nobody's died yet.

Reading comprehension bestie.

Reading comprehension.

[TricMagic]

If I understand the mech correctly exactly one of Vermillion or Oliverz is a wolf.

According to my understanding Imp's ability revealed to three people that they had all targeted Imp N1. One claimed a fruit vendor ability that was confirmed by Imp, one claimed bulletproof bodyguard who knows when they get hit, and one vagueposted an investigative claim.

So it's Oliverz or Vermillion who's a wolf, and it all comes down to whether your trust the claim of bulletproof aware bodyguard.

If Oliverz is a wolf AP is never paired with him off that as well I'm pretty sure. You don't fruit vend the NK target.

Main issue with a Vermillion Wolf is that Imp got protected and there were no deaths. Which means as part of a scum team would need to not kill for two nights. As a single wolf they don't have that room to claim. Neither is all that likely.
Ninja stuff. Fal, you just described multiple people, you know that right? Beyond which they did actually participate in claims when they revealed the gift. Which isn't alignment indicative...

The main issue is that if I lynch Max, and they turn out to be town. I've effectively wasted my role. Ever heard of the Sunk-Cost Fallacy?

[FallacyofUrist]

Okay, being entirely blunt.

Tell me how Max's behavior indicated that he is Town. How did he hunt for mafia players? How did he question and investigate others?

Give me the scoop, Tric.

[TricMagic]

You're tapping a dry well Fal. I'd ask the opposite. How are they scum for using their ability?