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[FallacyofUrist]

Well, Magma did revisit his read of Spin, but his earlier read was town, for no apparent reason. I'm not sure how genuine that is, considering how much effort Magma put into their other reads.

[TricMagic]

They put me and you as town, which is just freaking odd to me. Would that I was a dragon again.

[Oliverz144]

Magma
You still havent answered.
Do you have a Mod role PM?

[Magma Mater]

Also, you're still saying everyone else is wrong and you're right.

"We can decide who to vote on after that." Who decided that? By what right do you have to our votes? If no one votes, no stances are made.

I literally *just* said that Fallacy might be right on Max, and I might be wrong. Also, "we can decide" means I'm not the only one doing the deciding. Now you're either tunnelled to the point that you're not even reading my posts correctly, or you're deliberately misreading them in an effort to make me look bad.

Accidentally hit post, im on phone on vacation, sorry.
A) it was a good fish - could or maybe even did impact the posting of the 7 people who wrote before your "realisation".
b) prods many people to force reads out
Edit: forgot abt completing this, also forgot what i wanted to say :/ Magmat probably shouldn't be the lynch today

Who should be, then? You're still not doing anything.

Like don’t get me wrong if I see something I think is wolfy I’ll comment on it.

But I’d much rather spend my time building a town core.

The only thing that’s caught my eye so far in that regard is Imp’a tendency to repeat the phrase “I am town” but I read their collective posts and it actually only happened like 3-4 times, though in my head it felt like more.

I read Imp's posts and repetition as self-righteous town honestly. Feels like he's repeating himself because he thinks that's the only way he can get anything through my thick skull. It's a weak townread though and I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he were mafia. Who is in your town core?

I've had some conspiracy theory thoughts, and they're likely not true, but thoughts are pretty useless if not shared, so here goes.

Maximum Spin and Magma Mater scumteam. Probably with a third member elsewhere. Mater is townreading Spin despite the fact that Spin has basically done absolutely nothing thus far.

But maybe I'm chasing shadows.

I've townread a lot of people who've done basically nothing. Am I partnered with all of them? If you're going to go this route it should be with Vermilion, I similarly townread him off of next to nothing, but Vermilion is playing more closely to how a scumbuddy should play in this situation. If I were partnered with Max then he'd be taking a lot of risk by trying to push an alternative lynch (yourself) while ignoring me completely.

Magma
You still havent answered.
Do you have a Mod role PM?

Obviously I have a role PM. Otherwise how would I know that I'm town? Saying that I don't have a role PM and that I don't have abilities are simplifications, but effectively true.

[notquitethere]

(PTW)

[Magma Mater]

I try to avoid wasting my time pretending to have strong wolfreads D1. People like to lie to themselves that finding wolves D1 is reliably possible but all reads are just vibes. I prefer to find people I think are town and have collected a few. The problem with Bay12 games is that people post so little (and so many people have downright bizarre playstyles) that my usual town finding strategies aren’t turning up many results.

I’m on phone at work but if you’re curious about the game Magma search for the most recent game played by NoMoreWoweeSpam, I was using that alt for the game.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/search.php?searchid=20702171
This really doesn't look similar to your play this game. For one, I assume you're referring to Hypershock's tunnel on you d1? It's for entirely different reasons than I stated. He was accusing you of a wolfy catch-up with padding, hedging, and bad takes. I never accused you of any of those things.
You also actually did something and had multiple scumreads that game. You had a bunch of meme posts, but you were pushing people and making good points as well. I don't really see the similarity between that game and this one.

[4maskwolf]

I’ll be honest, from my perspective it reads almost exactly the same. You both accuse me of being wishy-washy, you both accuse me of taking the game seriously, you both accuse me of not having reads despite quoting posts where I definitively had reads, and you both saw one post you hated and then confhiased yourself into thinking the rest of my ISO was wolfy.

I don’t have wolf reads this game because my “wolf reads” last game were basically the only players who didn’t have anything going for them. And there’s, like, five? People I have literally no opinion of because they’ve posted so little of substance.

I think you’re more likely town than not. I think Tric is in his town range adjusted for a recent uptick in 3P paranoia. I think Imp is broadly townie even though I don’t like the whole “look at me I’m town” thing. I’d oppose any of those three eliminations today.

Also NQT you’re a nerd.

[4maskwolf]

*of not taking the game seriously.

[4maskwolf]

Also you’re both weirdly focused on specifically dayvigging me.

[Maximum Spin]

I'm just gonna say we should all vote for Wolfkey for now. It's a better idea than whatever this is.

[Magma Mater]

He's hyperfocused on you, to the point that he's ignoring everything else happening. I initially read it as Max being insightful and trying to open other avenues of discussion, but it's been too long for him to be focused on one thing like this.

I'm not focusing on anyone? I just haven't moved my vote.

You can read your own posts if you don't believe me. You haven't expressed suspicion or anti-suspicion of anyone other than Fallacy. Do you have other reads?

I’ll be honest, from my perspective it reads almost exactly the same. You both accuse me of being wishy-washy, you both accuse me of taking the game seriously, you both accuse me of not having reads despite quoting posts where I definitively had reads, and you both saw one post you hated and then confhiased yourself into thinking the rest of my ISO was wolfy.

I don’t have wolf reads this game because my “wolf reads” last game were basically the only players who didn’t have anything going for them. And there’s, like, five? People I have literally no opinion of because they’ve posted so little of substance.

I think you’re more likely town than not. I think Tric is in his town range adjusted for a recent uptick in 3P paranoia. I think Imp is broadly townie even though I don’t like the whole “look at me I’m town” thing. I’d oppose any of those three eliminations today.

Also NQT you’re a nerd.

You're here, so let's work together for now. To those three that you oppose lynching today, I'd also add that I strictly oppose lynching Vermilion or Fallacy. Assuming you also oppose lynching yourself, this leaves:
- Crystalizedmire
- Oliverz144
- Maximum Spin
- juicebox
- Wolfkey
- AnimePigeon
Which of these players would you most support voting out today? One or two names would be preferred. Please don't say "any".

[Maximum Spin]

He's hyperfocused on you, to the point that he's ignoring everything else happening. I initially read it as Max being insightful and trying to open other avenues of discussion, but it's been too long for him to be focused on one thing like this.

I'm not focusing on anyone? I just haven't moved my vote.

You can read your own posts if you don't believe me. You haven't expressed suspicion or anti-suspicion of anyone other than Fallacy. Do you have other reads?

I wasn't really expressing suspicion or "anti-suspicion" of Fallacy either.

[TricMagic]

I honestly don't feel a single one of these options Magma. Vote out Max instead.

[TricMagic]

Of note, you don't have to be town to townread a bunch of people. Only townreading one is suspisous if you get outted after all. Meanwhile most of your lynches won't give much information. Which among them scumslipped and where?

As it stands, my vote on you is a product of your own actions. I don't actually have time today for this chinese fire drill stuff. You should have been voting and pulling people's opinons together yesterday.

[Magma Mater]

Of note, you don't have to be town to townread a bunch of people. Only townreading one is suspisous if you get outted after all. Meanwhile most of your lynches won't give much information. Which among them scumslipped and where?

As it stands, my vote on you is a product of your own actions. I don't actually have time today for this chinese fire drill stuff. You should have been voting and pulling people's opinons together yesterday.

Love how this game is all about how me getting mislynched is my own fault.
It's my fault that half the playerlist has done nothing and that their lynches won't give much info.
It's my fault that there's been no interactions between players other than myself all day.
It's my fault that nobody has been trying to pull the town together until today.
It's my fault that you're unable to read my alignment.
I'm sorry for not realizing earlier that I was supposed to carry this town from the start of d1. Super sorry for starting the game while a third of the playerlist is on vacation. Really extra sorry that you're terrible at mafia. My bad!