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[4maskwolf]

Lmaooooooooo.

I got bad faith pushed on the exact same grounds in my last game on MU too.

Spoiler alert: was town there,  town here.

For what it’s worth I think Magma is town like my accuser was last game too, his takes are bad but not wolfy.

[TricMagic]

My main issue with them is their first post called out someone aking a scumslip, but that person did not get revealed but held over us. That's not town play. It's not mafia play either. Hence me thinking they need someone specific dead to win. The OP does have the Persecutor alignment. Not counting if they happen to be an Ally. Nothing so far has led me to disbelieve that idea. While lynching TPs doesn't win the game, leaving them alive when they're being detrimental by sucking up all the conversation topics isn't good either. Wolf technically has the right idea in that we don't have any suspects. And I don't want to end up in a CFD situation.

[4maskwolf]

Tric.

Bestie.

Cool your jets on the third party hunt.

Yes persecutor technically exists. I’ve played here on and off for ten years and I don’t think I’ve ever seen one. It’s an intensely unfun alignment for both players involved so I think most hosts discontinued using them before I even played my first game

If you genuinely think he’s a persecutor then just ignore him, anti-town persecutor can whine all they want but they’re only a wolf in LYLO.

For my part, yes the “neener neener I have a secret wolfread” thing from Magma was dumb, but it’s not explicitly anti-town. It’s anti-alignment in general so without more insight on Magma’s metagame I see it as basically a wash. I’ll also fully admit that I’m being influenced by the fact that I just got out of a game where someone did almost this exact same thing to me and was town.

[Elephant Parade]

Votecount
- 4maskwolf: (0)
- AnimePigeon: (0)
- Crystalizedmire: (0)
- FallacyofUrist: MaximumSpin (1)
- Imp: (0)
- juicebox: (0)
+ Magma Mater: TricMagic, Imp (2)
- Maximum Spin: FallacyofUrist (1)
- Oliverz144: (0)
- TricMagic: (0)
- VermilionSkies: (0)
- Wolfkey: (0)

- No Lynch: Wolfkey (1)

Not Voting: 4maskwolf, AnimePigeon, Crystalizedmire, juicebox, Magma Mater, Oliverz144, VermilionSkies

With 12 votes in play, it’s 7 to hammer (6 to hammer No Lynch).

Day 1 ends Tuesday, 7 PM PST (in about 23 hours and 18 minutes).

[TricMagic]

It might not be true, but the game is big enough for two anti-town factions. And being honest, don't want to have to deal with this day 2. They shouldn't have made that claim in the first place if they were town without actually saying it directly.

We could always vote you instead 4mask. Tell me, what exactly have we accomplished today other than much ado about nothing?

[Magma Mater]

Lmaooooooooo.

I got bad faith pushed on the exact same grounds in my last game on MU too.

Spoiler alert: was town there,  town here.

For what it’s worth I think Magma is town like my accuser was last game too, his takes are bad but not wolfy.

Link?
I am open to the possibility of you being town. Who is mafia, if not you?

@Tric, you have this idea of how you think town should act. If you vote for everyone who acts outside that mould, you're going to lose every game you play. You're also pretty tunnel-visioned. If I had voted for Wolfkey, as you suggested, I bet you'd have accused me of going after an easy lynch instead of voting for an actual suspect. You need to step back and reconsider your read. You keep saying that I'm wasting the town's time. I am not. You are wasting your own time by focusing on nothing but me. Fallacy and Max are town because they are two of the only people here trying to find scum and not using my presence here as an excuse to lurk and do nothing the entire day. They are able to see that I am personally not the only player here. Why can't you? So many other people haven't placed a vote, or haven't even given a single scumread. You're focused on me because I'm one of the few people posting regularly. You need to shift your focus and start looking at the people who are hanging in the shadows and watching this happen.

@Fallacy, it's possible that Max is mafia, I suppose. He's hyperfocused on you, to the point that he's ignoring everything else happening. I initially read it as Max being insightful and trying to open other avenues of discussion, but it's been too long for him to be focused on one thing like this. I will say though that you accusing him of not pressuring anyone is a bit disingenuous. Let me know your thoughts on some other people and we can decide whom to vote after that.

[TricMagic]

Can turn that argument back on you as me luring the day away by hyperfocusing. And no, an actual vote would have helped. A bit mind you, but Wolfkey hasn't really participated other than popping in. Use your votes people.

[TricMagic]

Also, you're still saying everyone else is wrong and you're right.

"We can decide who to vote on after that." Who decided that? By what right do you have to our votes? If no one votes, no stances are made.

[Oliverz144]

Accidentally hit post, im on phone on vacation, sorry.
A) it was a good fish - could or maybe even did impact the posting of the 7 people who wrote before your "realisation".
b) prods many people to force reads out
Edit: forgot abt completing this, also forgot what i wanted to say :/ Magmat probably shouldn't be the lynch today

[4maskwolf]

I try to avoid wasting my time pretending to have strong wolfreads D1. People like to lie to themselves that finding wolves D1 is reliably possible but all reads are just vibes. I prefer to find people I think are town and have collected a few. The problem with Bay12 games is that people post so little (and so many people have downright bizarre playstyles) that my usual town finding strategies aren’t turning up many results.

I’m on phone at work but if you’re curious about the game Magma search for the most recent game played by NoMoreWoweeSpam, I was using that alt for the game.

[4maskwolf]

Like don’t get me wrong if I see something I think is wolfy I’ll comment on it.

But I’d much rather spend my time building a town core.

The only thing that’s caught my eye so far in that regard is Imp’a tendency to repeat the phrase “I am town” but I read their collective posts and it actually only happened like 3-4 times, though in my head it felt like more.

[Maximum Spin]

He's hyperfocused on you, to the point that he's ignoring everything else happening. I initially read it as Max being insightful and trying to open other avenues of discussion, but it's been too long for him to be focused on one thing like this.

I'm not focusing on anyone? I just haven't moved my vote.

[TricMagic]

The longer this goes on for, the less I trust Magma to actually have town's interests at heart. Is anyone going to talk? Or is it going to be a slow limp towards day end?

[FallacyofUrist]

I've had some conspiracy theory thoughts, and they're likely not true, but thoughts are pretty useless if not shared, so here goes.

Maximum Spin and Magma Mater scumteam. Probably with a third member elsewhere. Mater is townreading Spin despite the fact that Spin has basically done absolutely nothing thus far.

But maybe I'm chasing shadows.

[TricMagic]

Better shared than held back. A reminder Magma apparently has no base abilities, but needs people to target them to gain abilities?