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Author Topic: Bring Your Own Monster (8/12) — Game Over  (Read 15328 times)

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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #780 on: August 23, 2024, 06:57:14 pm »

Wolfkey.
Having Wolf hold this for now.

That.. looks like a town set of abilities from Oliver. Enough so that I don't really want to lynch them this day.
If I had to vote one out of Fallacy and Max right now, it'd be Fallacy. Not for any particular read-based reason, but their role is incredibly scary in concept and we can't ever confirm them as town with an alignment inspect.
I'd prefer to vote one of Wolfkey or CM today, as they both have been ambiguous enough to where I'd like to see the flip.

I keep really wanting to say that there's a chance that CM lied about targeting MM and what for.  Actually did intentionally target Oliverz N1 for reasons unknown, tried to target MM N2.  That Juice tracked and caught the lie, and Wolfkey tried to get all inspection results before revealing a lie that could cover and protect CM's lie.

I can with great effort see that story, but I have to work hard enough I don't believe it.  Even CM's opening posts D3,

I was unable to perform actions on n1 and n2. Did anyone else experience something similar to this?

That's weird, because I targeted you N1, and saw you visit Oliverz
I targeted magma mater n1 and Oliverz n2.
I chose to steal abilities on both nights and both nights my abilities remained unchanged.
Oliverz: how many abilities do you have?

MAGMA: DID YOU EXTORT ABILITIES FROM ME TO GIVE YOU N2??
Say Yes or No!!!

also CM, i am STILL not answering your rolefish. You are incredibly scummy right now, especially after the juice box claim.
Im trying to catch you in a lie since I already have an ability to check for non innate abiloties. I cannot steal innate abilities nor mafiakills.

CM's been very townie as maf in recent games, but this is a neat limb to go out on if CM is anti-town.  I don't think CM is lying about this targetting and stealing intention even if maf.  Stealing can be a town skill, especially in a BYOR; CM and I both were town thieves (of a sort, I more incidentally stole) in BYOS.  Poor town thief CM there:

You stole two items?

I support Tric's claim that he lost those two items last night.  I confirm my trade offer is real, as in, if someone who has that Page offers it for the item I offer, it will happen.  I don't believe it is pro-town for me to confirm anything else at this time, including exactly what you asked or any variants of it.

Can't even steal items in peace.

Anyways I claim to be a double actor but double acting applies a flaw to my actions for that night.

CM could be anti-town, but I believe the mech claims so far now (I was wavering earlier).

And I no longer believe Wolfkey probably concocted his story to cover CM's lies; I don't think CM lied.

There is something weird about Wolfkey though, I think.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #781 on: August 23, 2024, 07:40:37 pm »

Max, has your read of Mater changed?  I think you were voting him D3 and wanting to roll into a elim of FoU D4 if we flipped anti-town in Mater; today you only seem to speak to him when he votes you

ok, whatever makes you happy, dude

but you otherwise seem to ignore him.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #782 on: August 23, 2024, 07:53:14 pm »

Max, has your read of Mater changed?  I think you were voting him D3 and wanting to roll into a elim of FoU D4 if we flipped anti-town in Mater; today you only seem to speak to him when he votes you
I'm really not sure at this point. Like I said at the beginning of the day, I decided not to focus on him for now.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #783 on: August 23, 2024, 08:11:18 pm »

Oliver, the lack of night 2 result is the nail that will seal your coffin. If someone has a gun they are welcome to kill me. I'd rather they not, but Jim did.

T(oony)m(an) fair on the bastardish bits in my non-labeled games? But more the fact that Mind Control is something Imp as the Butler of Butlers had to deal with. Eh..

That's not the sort of response I'd expect Oliver. Well, unless you and Fal are teamed so you don't want any sort of discussion. Easier to call me the crazy one than potentially get the vote back on Fal from participating.
i. am. a. one. shot. cop.
I don't have a belt, i dont have a magazine, i dont have a clip, I don't have a revolver drum, i dont even have a double barrelled gun. one shot.
one shot... or one opportunity...
To seize everything you ever wanted... one moment...
Would you capture it? Or just let it slip?
After that, i got the positive result, i grew, i evolved, call it whatever you want. My Mech calls it "Progression".
Spaghetti comes once in a lifetime, yo.

Wolfkey.
Having Wolf hold this for now.

That.. looks like a town set of abilities from Oliver. Enough so that I don't really want to lynch them this day.
If I had to vote one out of Fallacy and Max right now, it'd be Fallacy. Not for any particular read-based reason, but their role is incredibly scary in concept and we can't ever confirm them as town with an alignment inspect.
I'd prefer to vote one of Wolfkey or CM today, as they both have been ambiguous enough to where I'd like to see the flip.
Are you joking? All he told us was the ability names. And I don't even see anything that looks inspection-adjacent, so I'm not sure where that's coming from.
Wolfkey is mechanically unlikely to be mafia. Pick one of Fallacy or Oliverz to vote.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #784 on: August 23, 2024, 08:20:10 pm »

For informational purposes, what makes Wolf unlikely to be non-town mechanically?
I'm entirely willing to hear you out, I just genuinely am unaware. His ten posts don't provide much insight, either.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #785 on: August 23, 2024, 08:24:37 pm »

For informational purposes, what makes Wolf unlikely to be non-town mechanically?
I'm entirely willing to hear you out, I just genuinely am unaware. His ten posts don't provide much insight, either.
If he were mafia, they could have used the bus and/or roleblock to get around your protection. I personally can't imagine ever missing a kill when I have a busdriver on my team. Even if they didn't realize that they could use the bus that way, they'd at least have realized that they could just block you.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #786 on: August 23, 2024, 08:29:42 pm »

Entirely fair reasoning.
In that case, I'm willing to vote Fallacy over Oliver, if only for the reason we can never confirm their alignment.
If they flip town, though, I'm of the opinion we line up and execute Max, and potentially Tric, for the following days- depending on inspection results.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #787 on: August 23, 2024, 08:31:19 pm »

For whatever it's worth, if someone other than me is executed, I'll be able to use my very first inspect of the game that Night.

Somehow, though, I don't think y'all believe my absurd ironic role claim.

Just promise me you'll laugh if it turned out I was telling the truth, mkay~?
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #788 on: August 23, 2024, 08:32:41 pm »

Entirely fair reasoning.
In that case, I'm willing to vote Fallacy over Oliver, if only for the reason we can never confirm their alignment.
If they flip town, though, I'm of the opinion we line up and execute Max, and potentially Tric, for the following days- depending on inspection results.
Do you think that Fallacy has a higher chance of flipping scum than Oliverz?
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #789 on: August 23, 2024, 08:33:16 pm »

For whatever it's worth, if someone other than me is executed, I'll be able to use my very first inspect of the game that Night.

Somehow, though, I don't think y'all believe my absurd ironic role claim.

Just promise me you'll laugh if it turned out I was telling the truth, mkay~?
*if*???  :o
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #790 on: August 23, 2024, 08:33:46 pm »

I could hammer myself, I could hammer myself riiiiight now. It'd be hilarious. Oh it's so tempting.

But dangit, it'd be anti-town to do so, discussion is still ongoing.

(1 more vote kills me, for the record. Let no fool say (and lie) that they hammered accidentally.)
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #791 on: August 23, 2024, 08:34:53 pm »

For whatever it's worth, if someone other than me is executed, I'll be able to use my very first inspect of the game that Night.

Somehow, though, I don't think y'all believe my absurd ironic role claim.

Just promise me you'll laugh if it turned out I was telling the truth, mkay~?
Town False Hydra will be hilarious if it flips, don't worry.

Entirely fair reasoning.
In that case, I'm willing to vote Fallacy over Oliver, if only for the reason we can never confirm their alignment.
If they flip town, though, I'm of the opinion we line up and execute Max, and potentially Tric, for the following days- depending on inspection results.
Do you think that Fallacy has a higher chance of flipping scum than Oliverz?
I don't have a preference for one over the other, but we can never confirm Fallacy's alignment outside of a roleflip, which inclines me towards slating them for execution earlier.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #792 on: August 23, 2024, 08:40:37 pm »

if it turned out I was telling the truth, mkay~?

man, FoU, you need more practice as town.  You don't feel like town literally at all.

A marvelous fun is about to break free.

Well which of me and Max do you fear more? Surely Max. You wouldn't possibly fear little old me, would you~?

Well, if I had to elim between Max and FoU, I would pick FoU.  Shame, but FoU admitted to being a very scary 'superman' this game.

And does not feel town.

I cry, I want FoU to have fun.  I cry, I'm scared at last Oliverz is culty?  (Isn't making me think arsonist at least).

I'm glad the power of the elims is in many of our hands.  As Sandy Claws, I really just wanna hand out gifts and I'm glad to check who's naughty/nice as well, report and let the rest of us mostly handle that.

I cannot argue against FoU's elim even

if it turned out I was telling the truth, mkay~?

Town False Hydra will be hilarious if it flips, don't worry.

I'm reminded of

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(Auto) Avatar Of Pranks: When you win, you summon forth your master, the Prankster Demon. And naturally, like all demons, his idea of a prank is killing people. Because it’s HILARIOUS. At the end of each Day, after the lynch, the Prankster Demon randomly kills a player. You may also, during the Night, post about how hilarious anyone’s death was.
(Auto) Trickster: You receive a list of all players that targeted you. One of these players is randomly redirected to some other poor sap.
(1-Shot, Night) Disillusionment: All players are enchanted. Enchanted players randomly target players during this Night.
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Wincon: You win when another alignment wins while you are alive or you are the only remaining player.

.... hilarious.  Now I wanna hide.  I'll tinker more if you're anti-town, FoU, but I really do expect you're on normal probability now (which does mean occasionally scum).
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #793 on: August 23, 2024, 08:45:26 pm »

if it turned out I was telling the truth, mkay~?

man, FoU, you need more practice as town.  You don't feel like town literally at all.

Yeah, it turns out when you're usually scum, the few times you're town, you end up feeling like scum even when you're not scum.

But yeah. Town False Hydra. I've claimed all my abilities and what they do.

The role would be a lot cooler if it was an SK role. Which, unfortunately, it isn't.

But really, it's a good role, minus the redirects. Scaling bulletproof cop is good enough.

Maybe it doesn't feel very False Hydra-y, though.

Mark my words, Max is scum.

Mark my words, Imp.

If you'd like to finish me off, you can do the honor.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (11/12) — Night Three: Psych, It's Day Four
« Reply #794 on: August 23, 2024, 08:49:47 pm »

What are the interactions that show Oliverz is mafia with 4mask? Can someone lay this out?
Oliverz is independently scummy and should be lynched based on his own play. There are a couple of indicators that he is paired with 4mask, but these are less compelling than his own play.
1. 4mask's first "case" after he got redchecked was on Oliverz (link). I don't believe that he was trying to get him mislynched. Instead, I read the post as him knowing he's about to be lynched, and distancing as much as he can before he dies. 4mask's post against Oliverz reads as if he already knows that Oliverz is mafia, and is able to come up with good points against him as a result. You might also notice that he gives two separate reasons for isoing Oliverz first; this is because he had chosen Oliverz first based on the fact that he wanted to distance from him, not for any stated reason.
2. The complaint that Oliverz's posts give him psychic damage is a lame way to avoid interacting with him. Oliverz also failed to acknowledge the half-insult.
3. Oliverz went hard against 4mask on d3, after the redcheck. This is speculation, but I feel as if Oliverz is rather inexperienced and that if he were town, 4mask's claim would have given him pause. Instead, 4mask is bussed without hesitation.
I agree that the connections with 4mask aren't as compelling.

I disagree that they are "independently scummy", Oliverz strikes me as a newb in over their head the same way as Wolfkey.

Abbreviated reads list since I'm at work.

Imp extremely town
Magma Mater and Verm town
Oliverz lean town
Wolfkey and Toony null
Tric lean scum
Spin very scum

Oliverz deserves a reread, though. I'll be able to take care of that after I get home from work.
Oh, right, forgot about juicebox. Also null.

Juicebox has been very under the radar.
Something something vote Oliverz to save my own skin. No. Spin is scum. I will literally die on this hill if I have to.
Fair enough. Thanks for the reads.
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