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JasonMel

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Wagon-accessible front gate
« on: March 21, 2024, 08:20:40 am »

Can wagons pass through an open floodgate, or row of floodgates?

I'm trying to figure out how to make doors that are big enough for wagons, so that the caravan can be protected from sieges, etc. when necessary. I don't want to use drawbridges, since I've read that they are indestructible. My feeling is that invaders need to be given a fighting chance, since if they can't ever get inside, because I just wall them out or whatever, why play at all? I was trying to use actual doors for a while, but then I read wagons can't go through a row of three open doors after all. Makes sense, since a door needs a jamb for its hinges.
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Re: Wagon-accessible front gate
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2024, 11:15:17 am »

From a quick test in 47.05, yes they can, at least D shows there's a path.

Personally I place all my depots inside a double airlock, so that at any given moment it's either closed to outside, or closed from the main fortress.  That way invaders will never attempt to path through it.  I dunno if this would be cheating to you too.
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Re: Wagon-accessible front gate
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2024, 08:14:37 am »

You could also place some doors adjacent to a drawbridge for the trolls to smash through if space isn't a critical issue at the entrance.
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Re: Wagon-accessible front gate
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2024, 04:33:14 am »

You could also place some doors adjacent to a drawbridge for the trolls to smash through if space isn't a critical issue at the entrance.
*when building destroyers get fixed
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Re: Wagon-accessible front gate
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2024, 04:22:54 am »

My feeling is that invaders need to be given a fighting chance, since if they can't ever get inside, because I just wall them out or whatever, why play at all?
There is, or at least used to be, the digging invaders dfhack plugin, which basically solves your problem.
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Re: Wagon-accessible front gate
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2024, 07:58:08 am »

You could also place some doors adjacent to a drawbridge for the trolls to smash through if space isn't a critical issue at the entrance.
*when building destroyers get fixed

I'm playing on the steam beta version and I can tell you that when Invaders come lock doors sometimes are the not enough,  had a large group of night creatures appear on the map one time they were relentless destroying every door and every wall that they could that they could destroy they were super strong too damn near invincible legendary fighters every one of them, by miracle I eventually built so many walls and blocked myself in that they got tired after about  year and left.  Best part about these these idiots was they wanted to kill me really bad but they didn't want to kill anything else on the map.  They just stayed in a small group about 50 tiles up from my my fort just sitting there in the woods goofing around waiting for me to open the door.

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Re: Wagon-accessible front gate
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2024, 08:07:12 am »

I used to be obsessed with robbing the wagon a few versions back, and would always build the depot in a floodgate accessible sealed room. Once the traders were in, I'd drop the floodgates and flood the room, drowning the traders, after which I'd nick all of their stuff.

Ahhhhh, memories.
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