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Author Topic: Bay12 v. Black Pants Legion Great War Arms Race (Prelim 5 Design)  (Read 15060 times)

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A tale as old as time: two states with the desire to secure their own futures must clash violently with one another in order to guarantee their own survival. Here and now is no different. Two nations, defined currently only by their players, will have to outwit, outplay, and outkill their opponents in a Great War the likes of which hasn't been seen in ages.

Welcome to the Bay12 v. BPL Great War Arms Race
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Foreword: We are in an active holding pattern. Further explanation at the bottom.


Hello, fellow Bay12 Forum Games and Roleplaying Goblins. I have opted to bring together the two communities I call my internet home in one glorious, devastatingly savage clash of man and machine, a gory tale of mud and blood. You will be facing off against the Black Pants Legion - an online community of nerds best known for Battletech and Spacestation 13 content on YouTube and a growing community on Twitch run by a bunch of fellas more talented than myself. Over the course of the last week and a half I have run a game here for the creation of an Arms Race map, and thanks to the efforts of the members of this community we have a beautiful battlefield to play on. But before I get ahead of myself, let's go over exactly what an Arms Race is, the rules, and any extra information I can recall.

Spoiler: What Is An Arms Race? (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Designs and Revisions (click to show/hide)
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Spoiler: Expense Level (click to show/hide)
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Spoiler: Preliminary Act (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: I Am The Maptain Now (click to show/hide)
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This post is here so that the trigger can be pulled the moment the other team is ready. The BPL is currently determining the parameters of a +1 bonus for the setting. Since Bay12 has, what, a decade of experience with the genre and the Legion has none of that, I've decided to let them choose what sort of advancement is lightly favored by the setting. They have free reign - bolt action rifles, teslapunk, organ harvesting, infantry QoL, wizards, the limits are very loose but will always be adjusted to fit into a WW1 setting properly. You will also receive this bonus, and will have a +1 clearly notated as a result of the bonus in any results. You won't ever know explicitly what the parameters for the bonus are from me, which I hope is enough of a balance to make up for the experience gap. We'll see!

Anyway, here we go, doing war crimes again. Feel free to ask questions about rules, theorize on the bpl's ideas, talk shit, or brainstorm while we wait for the proper kickoff. Since the BPL is getting time to mentally prepare, you should too!
« Last Edit: March 31, 2024, 02:00:14 am by Man of Paper »
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Re: Bay12 v. Black Pants Legion Great War Arms Race (PreGame)
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2024, 12:29:29 am »

You know I wonder what kinda +1 they'll think up. I mean they might pick something completely random or something very basic, who knows. Though I imagine the first time we'll see the bonus in action if its particularly unique is when they use it for a design in a way that stands out- unless its literally just tanks are somewhat better.

Edit: Does the confirmation of the Interbarrial River Network as a feature mean we can make river boats?

Edit 2: Come to think of it they'll probably just put the bonus into whatever gives them the easiest time pushing into our land. So maybe a bonus to infantry or vehicles making it easier to cross the rough terrain. Or just Agent Orange.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2024, 12:42:30 am by Maxim_inc »
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Re: Bay12 v. Black Pants Legion Great War Arms Race (PreGame)
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2024, 02:27:19 am »

PTW
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Re: Bay12 v. Black Pants Legion Great War Arms Race (PreGame)
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2024, 02:38:54 am »

Ptw and all that jazz
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Re: Bay12 v. Black Pants Legion Great War Arms Race (PreGame)
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2024, 04:03:52 pm »

Stupid questions were asked.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2024, 04:57:22 pm by Maxim_inc »
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2024, 05:14:12 pm »

You know I wonder what kinda +1 they'll think up.
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They're likely to attach the bonus to something that's difficult to guess. We'll probably stumble on it at some point.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2024, 05:20:49 pm »

What happens if their national bonus coincides with their chosen bonus? (Or maybe they're choose to make their bonus to projects be their national bonus.)
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2024, 05:49:04 pm »

Same thing that'd happen if your bonuses overlap: you get both bonuses.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2024, 08:30:39 am »

PTW
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2024, 12:24:05 pm »

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Re: Bay12 v. Black Pants Legion Great War Arms Race (PreGame)
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2024, 02:23:00 pm »

You know I wonder what kinda +1 they'll think up.
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They're likely to attach the bonus to something that's difficult to guess. We'll probably stumble on it at some point.

I figure it's just going to be whatever random bullshit they think is cool. I bet it's mechs, the BPL has a lot of mech people.

EDIT: Note that "random bullshit" is not meant as a pejorative. Mechs *are* cool.
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Bay12 v. Black Pants Legion Great War Arms Race (Prelim 1 Design)
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2024, 03:45:20 pm »

Preliminary Turn 1 Design Phase: Ancient History

At the Dawn of the Age of Man, before all recorded, and most unrecorded, human history, a single tribe split into two. Determined to follow their own paths and guided by the rivers, these tribes eventually wandered to opposite ends of their shared continent.


It is now the First Preliminary Design Phase. You will be given prompts each Preliminary turn that your design and revision should address which will impact the final choices you have for your starting armory come the end of the Preliminary Act. These actions will guide the style and personality of your nation and their starting armory, with the more modern actions having a more direct influence on the actual equipment itself. For example, a bolt-action rifle will likely transfer 1:1, while a crossbow will be modernized into something appropriate for the Tech Level based on the sum of your actions.


The Prompt:
As the tribe represented by Bay12, what is it about Monsoon Point that drew your people to settle there? What tool, tactic, or development for taming the lands did your people define themselves most by during this Prehistorical period?



GM Note: The BPL is still determining the setting bonus, but have a deadline of Friday to finalize their vote and will be moving on to their Preliminary Turn immediately afterward. However, as they are also discussing their first actions, it's only fair that you all also have the chance to officially do so. Rolls will not occur until at least after the bonus is determined, and it's not like you guys will be told what it is directly, so it shouldn't affect your discussions for the phase.
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Re: Bay12 v. Black Pants Legion Great War Arms Race (Prelim 1 Design)
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2024, 03:56:51 pm »

Beast Keepers
We tamed this land quite literally. At least when it comes to the local fauna. The prodigious variety of wildlife that calls this place home meant the enterprising individual could always find some new beast of burden, hunting partner, or source of milk, meat, skin, wool, toxin, or entertainment. Of course, not all of these creatures took kindly to getting forcibly adopted, but with some selected breeding and violent repercussion we had a veritable menagerie in short order.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2024, 04:52:43 pm »

Stone Shapers: When we first settled the point we tried to build homes in the traditional way of mud brick and wood, though the battering wind and deluge of rain from the storms that give this region its name constantly tore down or flooded our villages. Desperate for a solution and unwilling to leave the land we turned to the broad cliffs and hills of our home, carving into their stone walls with tools of flint and bone, the winds may be strong but our stone dwellings rooted into the heart of the earth are stronger. Every generation our honeycombed cities expand further across the faces of the cliffs and deep into their rocky depths. The stone we extracted in our construction not being put to waste either, being used to build strong exterior walls for our settlements and form the early beginnings of our famous harbors that make us wealthy with sale of metal and gemstones found in the planets womb.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2024, 05:33:21 pm »

Living with the Rain: The endless water would force many others back, but our people used nature and tool to shape the land to our will. Floods turned to trickles, trickles to great moats against dangerous beasts. When the banks threatened to flood, we knew how to divert the flow away from our homes. Of the trees we shaped shelter from the endless storms. Of the earth we made farms for malanga, water chestnut, and watercress. We mastered the rains, always mindful of their power to destroy. And when the Monsoons came, we retreated within our forests, safe in our homes beneath sturdy trees.
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