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[Maximum Spin]

If Jack dies, so do I. So uh, I'm pretty reluctant to let him die unless we're totally sure he's scum. And so far, he's played totally townie, even with the lack of energy, but meta tells are half-garbage anyways.

(As far as I know, if I die, the same doesn't happen to him, though, it's purely a one-way self-destructive relationship.)

Isn't this just a reason for me to switch to you?

[FallacyofUrist]

If Jack dies, so do I. So uh, I'm pretty reluctant to let him die unless we're totally sure he's scum. And so far, he's played totally townie, even with the lack of energy, but meta tells are half-garbage anyways.

(As far as I know, if I die, the same doesn't happen to him, though, it's purely a one-way self-destructive relationship.)

Isn't this just a reason for me to switch to you?

Sure, sure, vote me if you wish, I still think you're scum. Since Toony's read on you is baffling to me, I think it could be you and Toony. Whether there's a third member, or it's a two teams of two situation, I don't know yet.

Okay, Fal.  Now, are you willing to discuss how/why?

is this an auto, an item, something else?

Auto. I'd rather not share my exact spheres, since I imagine there will be abilities that target based on them, but, well, you can probably guess.

[Imp]

If Jack dies, so do I. So uh, I'm pretty reluctant to let him die unless we're totally sure he's scum. And so far, he's played totally townie, even with the lack of energy, but meta tells are half-garbage anyways.

(As far as I know, if I die, the same doesn't happen to him, though, it's purely a one-way self-destructive relationship.)

Isn't this just a reason for me to switch to you?

Sure, sure, vote me if you wish, I still think you're scum. Since Toony's read on you is baffling to me, I think it could be you and Toony. Whether there's a third member, or it's a two teams of two situation, I don't know yet.

Okay, Fal.  Now, are you willing to discuss how/why?

is this an auto, an item, something else?

Auto. I'd rather not share my exact spheres, since I imagine there will be abilities that target based on them, but, well, you can probably guess.

Got it.  I have no advice at this time, just more questions, and I don't care about the spheres, can imagine a range of them could cause it, and I'm not a sphere-hunter, least not that I know of.

So, do you have any indication if EJ is the same alignment as you, or not?

If yes, are you willing to tell us anything about why you think EJ has your same alignment?

[webadict]

god dammit this feels like I'm drowning a pup

If it's any consideration I think Webadict is more likely to be scum than you, Quarque.

Quarque is for sure Town.

Webadict bad vote.

What is your confidence level on this, from personal read, and separately, from mechanics estimate/certainty?  And if you account for the possibility that emeralds could have more than one intended purpose, does that change the level of confidence (I cannot confirm if emeralds have more than one intended purpose, but can you rule that out?)

Emeralds have two purposes, I've already explained them both.

If Jack dies, so do I. So uh, I'm pretty reluctant to let him die unless we're totally sure he's scum. And so far, he's played totally townie, even with the lack of energy, but meta tells are half-garbage anyways.

(As far as I know, if I die, the same doesn't happen to him, though, it's purely a one-way self-destructive relationship.)

Isn't this just a reason for me to switch to you?

Uh...  I think so.

[FallacyofUrist]

Well, I think Jack is town mainly based on his behavior, but earlier on I was mainly focused on avoiding his execution because of the two-for-one deal it'd cause.

If later on evidence comes to light that Jack is scum, I'll be alright with sacrificing myself for the greater good to take him out, despite the potential of my role.

[Maximum Spin]

Uh...  I think so.

I'll go if you will.

[FallacyofUrist]

Fight me, I don't think you've done a single thing that makes me think you're town, Maximum Spin.

[webadict]

Uh...  I think so.

I'll go if you will.

FallacyofUrist.

[Maximum Spin]

FallacyofUrist

[Elephant Parade]

These posts:

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Go back and read what I said like an hour ago about NJW.

As for CM... maybe you should be thankful that I stopped voting you, hm?

So, you think NJW is 'more townie'.  Do you have reasons?

Scum can easily say 'oh X is townie' and it's hard to have reasons.

But you know this.  You know how to play.  This does not look like you town, except you'll agree to vote anyone other than yourself, even a fellow townie.  But you think and reason as town.  I know, I grilled you hardcore FoU's last game.  You have a brain and use it well.  There at least.

I am really worried about scum!web.  That guy's freaking smart and warned that he looked scum, how and why, and shifted style - or he was never scum, and I'm wrong with my read of him, and he did the same for townie reasons.

I'd love to be wrong about scum!web.  But my concern about that's why I'm not voting you right now, that and no desire for a hammer.

And I really, really want to hear FoU's analysis of you, and reasons for supporting you so strongly.  FoU?

Jack, I know Imp is hard to read sometimes with the long posts but you skipped this question and now Imp asked new questions. I really would like to hear your answer to this one. Or you could continue to ignore it, that is also an answer.

Thank you.  I had taken it as a 'I won't touch that question' answer from EJ, and didn't bother myself at that time to comment past the oooookay.  I'm also quite interested in that answer, be it silence or anything else.

I think that I will join the Imp votetrain. I feel like Imp is actually talking less than when they are town, leading me to think maybe they have a chat in which they are talking. Imp, could you explain?

Only you can explain your feelings.  I talk when I have something to say, and get regularly pressured to talk less.

As far as a chat where I can talk in, thus talk less in thread - last game.  Where I had a private chat with God, and talked my head off in it, since God was kind enough to chatter back.

Otherwise, I think you may feel the need to pick someone to vote, and I was at 3 recently, and you want me back there.

You haven't said what you think is scummy about me, other than... how I talk.  So not sure there.  Maybe you can explain it?  If I had to guess your reason for vote imp, "Worked once recently, work again, imp is a person not me, good enough for me" is your reason.

I guess everyone likes Quarque now? Can anyone explain that to me?

I certainly can't.  Do you think I like Quarque?  I'm just not everyone?

Sorry, I'm just not heavily motivated to play in this chaotic game.

What a shame.  You sure seemed motivated last time I knew you were town, despite chaos there too.  Even when you were going on insulting sprees and publicly demanding to be modkilled, you still looked motivated.

I'm now fine with a EJ elim today, a downgrade from my recent post of reads.  I don't have a good eval for the Fal/EJ link, especially since Fal opened the game with it and maintained it.  Very much looking forward to continued discussion and developments.

EJ, what do you think of the reasons Tric gave for double elim today?  "Seems town" is great, but low effort and fast, got anything other than "This won't take long to type" in your thinking?  What seems town about Tric?  Do you agree that most players find that one hard to read, and what are you using to read that one?

Why is this chaotic game demotivating to you?  What's your reasons for this game's chaos making you unmotivated?  Since you're living that and already know it, I really expect you can explain that one.  Looks like you were fairly involved before the game actually started though, joking and participating both in the game's discord and the thread pre-game banter, so, what changed once you saw your role/the game started?

To me, these don't stand out as especially helpful relative to their previous posts. OK.

[Imp]

I believe this is the current vote count:

Vote Count — Day 1
- Crystalizedmire
- Elephant Parade
- Euchrejack - [1] Sofanthiel
- FallacyofUrist - [4] NJW2000, Toonyman, webadict, Maximum Spin
- Imp -
- Quarque -
- Maximum Spin - [2] Euchrejack, FallacyofUrist,
- NJW2000 -
- Sofanthiel - [1] Elephant Parade
- Toonyman -
- TricMagic -
- Webadict - [3] Imp, Crystalizedmire, Quarque,
- No Elimination


Fal, if you did decide that web seemed a good choice, there's definitely room on this case.  I guess people usually call it a wagon, but I'm concerned and don't see any town in that player yet.  I'm iffy on Max.  Granted, I really do want to hear what Toons has to say about why he thinks web is a bad vote.  If it's very strong mechanical reason, I'd wonder if he could be wrong about it (he was wrong about that page meaning he will probably die tonight, a very honest innocent wrong) but I'd consider it very strongly.  And I'm not really good at picking out scum, but I've been trying to get better.  I don't see town here.

[Imp]

To me, these don't stand out as especially helpful relative to their previous posts. OK.

I was wondering about that too.  CM, would you please explain what is helpful in those posts, and how it helps?

[Maximum Spin]

You know, it does occur to me, though.

Fallacy, if you really have such an auto, you could tell me a relevant sphere on it. I could potentially change it to something else that might be less destructive.

[webadict]

To me, these don't stand out as especially helpful relative to their previous posts. OK.

I was wondering about that too.  CM, would you please explain what is helpful in those posts, and how it helps?

Why did you wait for Elephant to answer before bringing it up, then?

[Crystalizedmire]

To me, these don't stand out as especially helpful relative to their previous posts. OK.

I was wondering about that too.  CM, would you please explain what is helpful in those posts, and how it helps?

Seemed like you were actually trying to find information. It's mostly vibes though.