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[EuchreJack]

I'd really prefer Imp be dead.

Their rampant paranoia is getting on my nerves and making it harder for me to read either them or anyone else. I would be OK with this.

Eh, but only Town are paranoid, and we're not going to help Tric Kill Town, right?

They had a half-joking deal on Discord to defend each other next game afterwards, FYI

Well, somebody gets it.  Yes, we appear to have both formed the strategy pre-game to defend one another on Day 1.

@Elephant Parade:

But I see your point re: his critics being his top picks. I'm going to go over the thread and check whether they're actually his most predominant critics.

I've gone over the thread and yes, they are.

Good review of NJW, but wrong conclusion. His read list sucks Day 1, because he's town.  It's why I townread him.  Could you clarify if his most predominate critics were his top picks as town or scum?

It's been over a month since I read Armed Forces Mini but I recall Imp coming across as paranoid there.

I was talking about Web there, not NJW.

Ok, then were Web's most predominate critics his top picks as being town or his top picks of being scum?

[Maximum Spin]

I do not see how this can possibly be town EuchreJack.

[Imp]

Ok, then were Web's most predominate critics his top picks as being town or his top picks of being scum?

Has web given a reads list?

I've seen him comment on others' reads lists, and agree/disagree/not comment on specific statements.

[webadict]

Has web given a reads list?

I've given reads.  You can fashion them into a list, Mr. Roboto.

[Crystalizedmire]

Vote Count — Day 1
- Crystalizedmire - [1] Euchrejack
- Elephant Parade
- Euchrejack - [2] Sofanthiel, Maximum Spin
- FallacyofUrist - [2] NJW2000, Toonyman
- Imp -
- Quarque - 
- Maximum Spin - [1] Quarque
- NJW2000 - [1] webadict,
- Sofanthiel - [1] Elephant Parade
- Toonyman -
- TricMagic - [1] FallacyofUrist
- Webadict - [2] Imp, Crystalizedmire
- No Elimination

Hm, scumteam Sofanthiel & Maximum Spin? 
It can't be that easy, can it?

I mean, there are plenty of people accusing me of being scum with much better arguments that are NOT voting me.

@Sofanthiel & Maximum Spin: Care to explain the votes? Why should other people join your votes? Why am I your #1 scum pick?

Why do you think that is the scumteam? This comes off as exetremely defensive

[webadict]

I do not see how this can possibly be town EuchreJack.

The reason I don't think this is scumteam EJ is because of his early Day play.  If you want to claim 3P Jack, fine, but that's all I can see.

[Maximum Spin]

I do not see how this can possibly be town EuchreJack.

The reason I don't think this is scumteam EJ is because of his early Day play.  If you want to claim 3P Jack, fine, but that's all I can see.

What early day play? He was barely here before now!

[webadict]

I do not see how this can possibly be town EuchreJack.

The reason I don't think this is scumteam EJ is because of his early Day play.  If you want to claim 3P Jack, fine, but that's all I can see.

What early day play? He was barely here before now!

Hm, maybe it's better explained as his enthusiasm to play?  I don't think EuchreJack is unenthusiastic to be on a scumteam.  I think if he's not wanting to play, it because he gets an alignment he doesn't want.  ... Meh, let's just ask him.

Hey EuchreJack, are you third party?

[Maximum Spin]

I could certainly buy that after Supernormal, yes.

[EuchreJack]

I do not see how this can possibly be town EuchreJack.

The reason I don't think this is scumteam EJ is because of his early Day play.  If you want to claim 3P Jack, fine, but that's all I can see.

What early day play? He was barely here before now!

Hm, maybe it's better explained as his enthusiasm to play?  I don't think EuchreJack is unenthusiastic to be on a scumteam.  I think if he's not wanting to play, it because he gets an alignment he doesn't want.  ... Meh, let's just ask him.

Hey EuchreJack, are you third party?

No, I am Town.

I also like playing as Mafia. It's just Serial Killer that I don't want.  And I made that work last time.
I'm just unenthusiastic because I'm unenthusiastic. It's not alignment-indicative.

I'm also a bit annoyed that everyone is obsessed with the fact that I drew SK in Supernormal, and completely forget everything else about that role, including that I was given a pro-town win condition.

[Imp]

I'm also a bit annoyed that everyone is obsessed with the fact that I drew SK in Supernormal, and completely forget everything else about that role, including that I was given a pro-town win condition.

Shame you're annoyed about that.

Umm, I'm not even thinking about it, if that helps with your annoyance.

That they're voting you, is that the only thing that seems scummy to you about sof and Max?

Ok, then were Web's most predominate critics his top picks as being town or his top picks of being scum?

Great question.  I'm one of them.

Hey, web, what's your reasons for appearing to think I'm not town/scum?

I get your general NAI complaints that sound like you just want me out of the game.

Got a case against me?  Your 'bandwagon imp' looks all lonely.

Got cases against anyone you're after, other than they're inconvenient to you/don't trust you?

[EuchreJack]

Vote Count — Day 1
- Crystalizedmire - [1] Euchrejack
- Elephant Parade
- Euchrejack - [2] Sofanthiel, Maximum Spin
- FallacyofUrist - [2] NJW2000, Toonyman
- Imp -
- Quarque - 
- Maximum Spin - [1] Quarque
- NJW2000 - [1] webadict,
- Sofanthiel - [1] Elephant Parade
- Toonyman -
- TricMagic - [1] FallacyofUrist
- Webadict - [2] Imp, Crystalizedmire
- No Elimination

Hm, scumteam Sofanthiel & Maximum Spin? 
It can't be that easy, can it?

I mean, there are plenty of people accusing me of being scum with much better arguments that are NOT voting me.

@Sofanthiel & Maximum Spin: Care to explain the votes? Why should other people join your votes? Why am I your #1 scum pick?

Why do you think that is the scumteam? This comes off as exetremely defensive

...I am absolutely aware that it comes off as "extremely defensive".
Why again is "extremely defensive" a scumtell?

Max looks scummy to me because of this post, which seems like a way to smear Fallacy by defending Fallacy for when Max flips scum, which I thought was quite likely at the time he made that post. Eh, maybe I am just being "defensive".

I recall someone describing Sofanthiel as "hiding in audacity", which seemed like a valid explanation for his behavior. Sofanthiel seemed like he was going to get voted, so he throws out random weird stuff to see if he can not get voted out.

The fact that far townier people aren't voting me, despite articulating clear reasons to vote me, and these two seem to be jumping onto voting me despite unoriginal and unclear reasons, does have me scratching my head. It looks more like "Hey, lets vote that guy that others think is scummy, so we don't look scummy when he flips town" rather than "This guy looks like mafia, so I vote him".

I will also add that Max generally hates playing the day game on Day 1 as town. He only truly relishes it as mafia.  Which tends to give Max away a lot. Max just isn't his obtuse annoying Day 1 town self.

@Imp: The adults are talking, could you shut up a bit?

[ToonyMan]

I'm in on an Imp bandwagon.

No.

I do not see how this can possibly be town EuchreJack.

Yes.

[EuchreJack]

I do not see how this can possibly be town EuchreJack.

Yes.

Oh almighty and glorious Town Toony, could thy decypher thy will by clarifying whether thee think they lowly servant EuchreJack could possibly be town, or is an unrepentant scumbag? Of course, regardless of thy answer, you be town.

[FallacyofUrist]

Back from work! Okay, feeling a bit better about TricMagic since our glorious mod thankfully said his ability kills a maximum of two people, not the no-maximum that was implied.

I am still entirely unwilling to execute EuchreJack. Partly because I like his play, partly because other reasons.

Let me catch up on the thread properly, now.