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[Imp]

Seems to be the current votecount:

webadict (1): FallacyofUrist,
CrystalizedMire (0):
Imp (0):
sofanthiel (0):
FallacyofUrist (1): CrystalizedMire,
EuchreJack (0):
notquitethere (2): sofanthiel, Imp,

No Execution (0):

Not Voting (3):  EuchreJack, webadict, notquitethere

[webadict]

I can't vote, so there's no point keeping me in there.

Max, are players without votes allowed to vote?  Also, could you post a votecount?

[FallacyofUrist]

Alright.

1: webadict hasn't really been able to back up his claims. He told us to execute him and then vote TricMagic on Day 1. If he was truly vanilla town as he flipped, he would have no way of knowing that, and if we chose to fully trust his plan, it would be potentially destructive, as sofanthiel noted.

2: Day 2, webadict seems to have lost all interest in getting himself executed, and now proposes that Tric and I are scum. Tric is the ultimate null read at this point, having been non-interactable Day 1 and now banished as of Day 2. I, well, I'm vanilla town. More importantly though, I don't see his justification of me as a scumread. Maybe if he thought I was chainsaw defending Tric, but, Tric is completely null. I haven't even mentioned him. I just think webadict is acting off. More authoritative than usual.

3: Crystalizedmire is exhibiting an unusual amount of aggression, specifically towards me, and defensive of webadict. Potential newb scumtells.

4: My supposition about sofanthiel and EuchreJack is wholly intuition-based. They both seem to be acting a little more energetic than I'm used to. I don't have as much confidence in this, though.

I'd be satisfied with a webadict execution today.

When or if Tric returns, I'll be happy to put him to the test.

I am vanilla town.

Questions?

The problem with your logic is that you sent in a target last Night but still claim Vanilla Town.

I did not send in a target last Night. I said 'nobody'. Max let me get away with it. He heavily encouraged me to choose a player, but I continued to say nobody.

Please confirm that it would be valid to choose to target no player as of Night 1's action submissions.

[Imp]

I'd be satisfied with a webadict execution today.

Any concerns or thoughts about having not even heard from EuchreJack yet today?

[FallacyofUrist]

Any concerns or thoughts about having not even heard from EuchreJack yet today?

Real life happens. I'd love to hear from him, of course, and see what he has to say about sofanthiel and webadict.

[webadict]

1: webadict hasn't really been able to back up his claims. He told us to execute him and then vote TricMagic on Day 1. If he was truly vanilla town as he flipped, he would have no way of knowing that, and if we chose to fully trust his plan, it would be potentially destructive, as sofanthiel noted.

Hey Max, are roleflips guaranteed to have been accurate at the time of flip?

Well, "accurate" is a complicated concept, but it'll definitely be the most recent role the player was given.

I know, I know, I'm just that good, but even I can't fake a mod message!  It's a valiant try, though!

2: Day 2, webadict seems to have lost all interest in getting himself executed, and now proposes that Tric and I are scum. Tric is the ultimate null read at this point, having been non-interactable Day 1 and now banished as of Day 2. I, well, I'm vanilla town. More importantly though, I don't see his justification of me as a scumread. Maybe if he thought I was chainsaw defending Tric, but, Tric is completely null. I haven't even mentioned him. I just think webadict is acting off. More authoritative than usual.

Yeah, no offense, but I'm cleared of being the murderer, and there's a murderer, so I'm kinda against being voted out when I literally could not be the murderer.  The best you can say is that I'm Third Party due to the resurrection, but your logic is batshit.

[Imp]

EuchreJack is wholly intuition-based. They both seem to be acting a little more energetic than I'm used to.

Any concerns or thoughts about having not even heard from EuchreJack yet today?

Real life happens. I'd love to hear from him, of course, and see what he has to say about sofanthiel and webadict.

The whole hasn't spoken yet today, and more energetic than you're used to, that jives?

[Maximum Spin]

Max, are players without votes allowed to vote?  Also, could you post a votecount?

I... guess? You can do what you like, but I don't have to count it.
I'll do one at the end of this post I guess.

Please confirm that it would be valid to choose to target no player as of Night 1's action submissions.

Of course. This is still just a game of mafia, you can take no action if you really want.

The present votecount appears to be:
CrystalizedMire (0):
EuchreJack (0):
FallacyofUrist (1): CrystalizedMire
Imp (0):
notquitethere (2): sofanthiel, Imp
sofanthiel (0):
webadict (1): FallacyofUrist

[FallacyofUrist]

Yeah, no offense, but I'm cleared of being the murderer, and there's a murderer, so I'm kinda against being voted out when I literally could not be the murderer.  The best you can say is that I'm Third Party due to the resurrection, but your logic is batshit.

... Uh, not being the murderer isn't any guarantee you're not scum.

Please confirm that it would be valid to choose to target no player as of Night 1's action submissions.

Of course. This is still just a game of mafia, you can take no action if you really want.

So, anyways, I chose to target no player as of Night 1, because vanilla town do not possess night actions.

[webadict]

Fallacy is berserk right now.

I'm pretty sure most people started as Vanilla Town, did people change at the end of the Night or at the end of the Day?

[webadict]

So, anyways, I chose to target no player as of Night 1, because vanilla town do not possess night actions.

I think this might actually fly.  I think you not using your Action is what kept you as a Vanilla Town.

[webadict]

Max, can we know the ways someone's role might change?  Also, if someone's role changes, can their alignment change with it?

[webadict]

Oh, and some proof:  CrystalizedMire

[webadict]

Claim: Vanilla Townie

By the way, Fallacy, it's this post that you should've linked when I asked you.

[FallacyofUrist]

Fallacy is berserk right now.

Look, if we're going by Supernatural tropes, there's been at least one occasion where a scumteam recruited from the grave. Werewolf Priest, or something like that.

Oh, and some proof:  CrystalizedMire

I don't see how voting your potential scum partner changes anything. Bussing is a thing.

Oh, right, proving you're voteless.

Yeah, that's a valid attempt, we'll see what Spin makes of it.

Claim: Vanilla Townie

By the way, Fallacy, it's this post that you should've linked when I asked you.

Should've? By what metric?

I respect your experience, but there's still more than one way to play the game. I'm town. I still don't fully know how I should play as town, but I can't trust your answer not to be biased here.

I'll happily hear you out post-game.