Rightio, why are we lynching Esteemed Maximum Spin if he didn’t perform the kill?
Because I'm dangerous and weird.
I'm still volunteering to be roleblocked if someone is willing to swap with me so I can protect both of us. Yes, the protect will work even if I'm roleblocked, I asked, and now that the bag is out of the cat regarding me getting - that wasn't some kind of hint, just to be clear, I just felt like saying something weird - regarding me getting the Marked by Death status, I definitely want to be protected.
Here's what Esteemed Maximum Spin inferred or knew, and has stated about Esteemed Knightwing64, from I believe the N1 action that one took on Esteemed Webadict. Roleflip's at the bottom, to compare for accuracy/differences, in case anyone wants to evaluate.
Review what he said about the Esteemed Knightwing, which was ever so much of future stuff.
But to give you an example of a previous day, I targeted Esteemed notquitethere and Esteemed webadict, ended up catching (not very) Esteemed Egan_BW's action in the net, but also saw Esteemed Knightwing's action (on Esteemed webadict), Esteemed Jim Groovester's action, etc.
Well, Knightwing is some kind of computer virus eating brains from within the noosphere for unclear sinister purpose, so that might be something to be concerned about.
You did go wrong in one place: Knightwing can only confirm that webadict didn't use an inspect, and actually can't confirm even that although he thinks he can.
Knightwing tried to steal web's inspect results to power himself up somehow that I don't know the details of.
Knightwing, don't be a dick and try to steal people's investigative results, lol.
I'm concerned that Knightwing might be in a similar boat to TricMagic re: being able to stop being town.
I don't mind that at all, and also, Knightwing is Town, btw.
So he got all that, and chose to share it... on D2. Meaning this is base Esteemed Knightwing64. No upgrades yet.
And somehow the super-flavor-inspector got all that, or guessed enough to coldread that close, because lookie this...
Meanwhile, Knightwing64 is screeching in hunger, before eventually turning to dust.
Knightwing64 was modkilled. Knightwing64 was Town.
Rapidly Evolving Meme By Knightwing (Town)
(Innate, 0 Growth, Auto) Memetic Mutation: The more you learn, the more you are, the more you grow. You gain benefits according to the amount of Growth you have.
-2 Growth: You learn to be flexible. Your abilities cannot be Disabled, and you learn how many players visit you each Night.
-4 Growth: You learn to be agile. You may take an additional action each Night. You learn when you’ve been redirected.
-7 Growth: You learn to be lethal. You gain Basilisk. Infovore and Memetic Consumption are updated such that ‘Something’ becomes ‘Knightwing’.
(Auto) Infovore: You are a new type of creature, with spindly limbs of words and concepts and a writhing core of information. When a player would learn information about you from an investigative action, they instead learn “Something perceives your perception.” and you learn the information instead. You also gain 1 Growth when this happens.
(Night) Memetic Consumption [target]: You can only grow by consuming other infoforms. Any investigative results your target would gain this Night are replaced with “Something gnaws on your gnosis.” You learn those investigative results for yourself, and gain 1 Growth per action interfered with by this action.
(Reference, Night) Basilisk [target]: You fracture your target’s internal panopticon. You kill them. They learn “Knightwing devours your didact.”
Yes, I was spot on. I was basing it on this:
(Night) Memetic Consumption [target]: You can only grow by consuming other infoforms. Any investigative results your target would gain this Night are replaced with “Something gnaws on your gnosis.” You learn those investigative results for yourself, and gain 1 Growth per action interfered with by this action.
Which is exactly what I learned, nothing more nor less than that, and from that I inferred that 1) he's taking selfish action, 2) he lied when he claimed he was only checking if Esteemed webadict had inspects, and was in fact stealing them, and 3) he has the ability to "Grow", which sounds dangerous and I didn't trust it especially after Esteemed TricMagic. Oh, and, also, 4) he didn't know that Esteemed webadict would be roleblocked, so he didn't know about Broken DOOR, so he's not in the Mafia. But he also was acting very like Town Esteemed Knightwing64 anyway.
I believe that Esteemed Maximum Spin gets info about the targets of his targets. I think ideally he needs to know both, for example, that Esteemed Webadict was going to target Esteemed notquitethere.
That isn't how it works. On d1, I wasn't expecting to get much information unless I knew where the actions were coming from
and going to, because that's specifically what I
don't learn, so I did a watch on Esteemed notquitethere and a watch-and-follow on Esteemed webadict - so I learned all of what you list here:
That appears to have given him a lot of info about people who acted on Esteemed sofanthiel (presume merged with Esteemed notquitethere; the actor Esteemed Egan_BW), acted on Esteemed Webadict (Esteemed Knightwing64). Both those primary targets of Esteemed Maximum Spin were roleblocked, so had no targets in effect, so I can't really judge if Esteemed Maximum Spin would have gotten info about the direct targets too.
But I would
not have learned about Esteemed sofanthiel's or Esteemed notquitethere's actions or their targets, nor would I have learned who Esteemed webadict targeted except by inference from seeing the action coming and going if it did indeed hit Esteemed notquitethere, nor did I learn the actual identities of the players targeting any of them except by inference from the flavor and the claims in the thread (again, you can see that I didn't even pick up on Esteemed Knightwing64's right away, which is embarrassing). By the way, Esteemed Jim Groovester also targeted Esteemed notquitethere and Esteemed sofanthiel with The Second Best Defense, but it was very easy to determine what happened there.
However, Esteemed Maximum Spin discusses having different numbers of targets on various nights:
I just had a two-shot Superfree watch-and-follow-combination which I could use along with my other one (Superfree is like Free, but moreso: you can use as much of it as you want and it doesn't conflict with other Free actions). I was hoping to get that refilled eventually, but it didn't work out.
also if he's lying about his free-swap being a protect, which I don't believe there's any evidence of, then he remains the most plausible explanation for TCk's result last night
Do you believe I didn't target Esteemed The Canadian kitten? If you believe I targeted Esteemed The Canadian kitten and swapped myself with Esteemed hector13, but my swap is
not a protect, then I should be dead because Esteemed The Canadian kitten would have targeted me. The only way this would work is if I DID have a real protect so that I was protected from Esteemed The Canadian kitten's kill... but you know that I broke my post restriction badly last Day, and Esteemed hector13 is supposedly immune to protects. If you believe I didn't target Esteemed The Canadian kitten, how do I know his action by name and effect?
Esteemed The Canadian Kitten claimed to have targeted The Esteemed Secretdorf for N3. Claimed to get result town. A night that Esteemed Secretdorf seems to have stolen Esteemed Knightwing64's vote, claimed and backed up by Esteemed Jim Groovester's claim of the same vote-steal target.
Esteemed Maximum Spin appears to have been randomized that night - possibly confirmed by Esteemed hector13 if the gain of 'steam' is true. I think you claimed randomized that night.
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't remember that, it's true. I suppose if you believe I targeted Esteemed Secretdorf for a watch, or Esteemed The Canadian kitten for a follow that night, you could conclude that I learned the ability then... but then how I knew about Esteemed Lenglon and Esteemed BlackHeartKabal becomes a mystery you have to solve.
My targets were indeed randomized, but, as I already claimed, I infer that I must have targeted Esteemed BlackHeartKabal that night because I received the Marked by Death status. That's why I was so sure. And, uh, well, I was right, and Esteemed BlackHeartKabal was mafia.
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