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[Imp]

Wait, I misread Imp's post as implying they were redirectable after all. I'm still not unvoting until you explain what was going on there.

At the time I posted that, I was confused about if I could be redirected.  I confirm I asked the Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist if I could be redirected, if I didn't break the conditions.

It was confirmed that no, if those autos are intact, and I succeed in an action, it goes where I send it.  I alone can just 'don't worry about it' as long as I remain contractually nice.

I also for other reasons explored how I could break that contract without being a bother to the Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist, because it also ensures I cannot somehow regain my earlier role, which I rather adored and which was custom made to me with exquisite precision and accuracy.  I seriously considered risking everything to try and beg someone to give it back to me.

Ironically, that dead scum from yesterday, actually could have.  That was an interesting emotional hit too.  But the death thing, and what happens when I die... not a good deal at all, even to get that role back.  I'm maintaining that contract.  I'm far safer to town this way, and specifically useful.

Sorry to confuse with my confusion.  But I am now certain I didn't allow myself to be redirected or otherwise misled.  I have a true alignment on a true target.

[Lenglon]

EP: I'm having trouble following everything thats going on - busy time for me - and lost your case on NQT, please repeat it for me?

[Elephant Parade]

We’re fucking weird round here. I think it was BYOR16 in which Esteemed ToonyMan was inspected scum and I got lynhed ‘cause I lied about stealing someone’s vote, and I’m pretty sure Esteemed notquitethere was the one to start the wagon on me in that one.

You also have to bear in mind Esteemed Imp can’t be re-directed if they fulfill their post restriction, which they currently claim is the case, and they used a pure inspect on Esteemed notquitethere and got a town result. I’m cool looking elsewhere for the time being.

I agree that NQT is looking good, mechanically speaking, but I just can't square that with my feelings. I'll probably unvote (I wouldn't have revoted in the first place if I hadn't misread Imp's post) but I'm not going to treat Imp's inspect as a reason to turn my brain off.


@Imp: The problem is that I'm not 100% sure you're town. I have you filed under "most likely town," which is good but not good enough for me to blindly trust your claims.

EP: I'm having trouble following everything thats going on - busy time for me - and lost your case on NQT, please repeat it for me?

I will in a bit.

[Imp]

Wait, hold on a minute (emphasis added):

That's a reasonable suspicion! Here's some possibilities:

1. It's a bluff/sofa is a bad player and he really will die for real

2. Sofa can't be killed until a scumbuddy dies

3. Sofa is a third party whose win condition is to die a certain number of times.

4. Sofa has a limited number of resses but its all a part of a plan to buy time for scum buddy to enact plan.

There must be at least two other mafia members, possibly more, possibly multiple teams, possible serial killers too. Even if we think Sofa is most likely scum, we can kill someone else today and block/follow/inspect/etc Sofa in the night.

PFP

Can we not have a player at L-1 so someone accidentally hammers?

More later

Pretty sure is L-2 right now as both Imp and I jumped off.

I backed off on this earlier when I realized I had misread the tone, but with a known scum redirector/merger/godknowswhat in play, "deal with the obvscum with night actions instead of the elimination" was a completely bonkers suggestion. What the hell, NQT?

In case it is useful, I believe Esteemed notquitethere was answering this post of mine with that post of theirs, for all it's not directed:

1. There are two shooters. One shot me (Egan), one shot Sofa and it redirected to. I survived because I can't be so easily killed. Sofa rezzed. The other shooter was most likely BHK or Superdorf.

2. The "bus" wasn't actually a bus per se, more like Sofa conjoined with me as action targets. Knowing he had a resurrection, his scum buddy Egan shot me, and both Sofa and I died. Sofa's power in this case would be intended to have this kind of fake resurrection.

We also have reason to believe that there can be 'non-living players' and we saw Esteemed sofanthiel die and res for no known reason and try ever so hard to die today.

It looks like a plan.

I was allowed to create a nearly unstoppable unliving town player end of D2.  No idea what happens now to that, given my changes.  But what was that maybe balancing?

I really feel uneasy about how eagerly the Esteemed Sofanthiel is running to their death.  I wonder what is being set up for

I had also said earlier that day:

As much as I enjoy responding to your queries, I'm afraid I can provide no comment on the above.  I will reveal that information exclusively if I deem doing so beneficial or vital.  Neither is the case right now.

Fascinating.  Do you care to help us see why you answer so, or is it your preference to simply make sure we lynch you instead of a more important other person first?

I have a theory that the Esteemed Secretdorf and friends are scum and working very hard to get the extra votes they need to win.  I think the Esteemed Sofanthiel is very willingly helping ensure this, and that the banishing may be part of it - if not, it's being gleefully used.

Would more experienced and capable players please get involved in an effective and useful way to help sort this out?

Right now, to this newbie's eyes and evaluation, we lynch the Esteemed Secretdorf today, or we lose.  This looks like direct, nearly unstoppable goal seeking behavior from capable scum who think they are one move from winning.

And I believe those statements from me are part of what Esteemed notquitethere is answering.  I'm the one who cared which scum we killed in what order.

[Imp]

Oooh.  Presuming all claims are honest -

Lenglon had to have hit the Esteemed BlackHeartKabal last night as at least one target.

I got the mark and the roleblock N1, Esteemed BlackHeartKabal claimed they are linked.  Esteemed Maximum Spin got hit by Esteemed hector13 and was not roleblocked - so that roleblock probably does come from Esteemed BlackHeartKabal visiting someone.

Esteemed Lenglon does not claim to have been roleblocked, so Esteemed BlackHeartKabal could not have visited them.

But visiting Esteemed BlackHeartKabal causes the player to gain the mark.  So that would explain how Esteemed Lenglon gained it, I am unsure of other reasons how that could happen without a roleblock too.

[Elephant Parade]

The Case Against Notquitethere

First of all, there's the summary I posted last time:

Elephant Parade: Please tell me more about why you dislike NQT.

He hasn't posted much and some of what he has posted has given me bad vibes. Not a good combo! Also, looking over his posts, he's barely interacted with anyone. Most of them are essentially addressed to the room.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Not-Quite-There, Not-Quite-There
Friendly neighborhood Not-Quite-There
Bogus tells
He's ignored
Analysis, his reward
Look out
Here comes the Not-Quite-There

Two interesting things so far. Jim's ability, and Web's role null claim. Web says it's OP but wiping out someone's role isn't necessarily more powerful than just killing them (though what happens to their wincon?)

Lenglon, we shouldn't give town ally claims a free pass— I've seen serial killers say that they're town aligned more than once! How does your list of questions compare to BHK's?

BHK, I'll certainly give a reads list on D2. How about you?

Tric, do you think your role is going to be decisive this game?

Elephant Parade did you know they used to parade elephants across the frozen ice of the river Thames during winter festivals a few hundred years ago?

Flavor, summary, and RVS. Null.

Busy two days, but now catching up on the thread. Want to get a feel for the dynamics unfolding. Before I enter a flashback, here's an bold and exciting role claim:

(spoiler=Identity reveal in this issue!)I'm town and I inspect as town.(/spoiler)

Jokey non-miller claim. Null.

Plot points

- Jim's Role: players position themselves whether or not they're afraid to be daykilled by Jim
- Max hints at secret power not to die. As usual he's a miller which I doubt. I always find this guy shady though.
- Webadict claims the power to wipe someone out of continuity (we ought be skeptical, he's a well known fabricationist regardless of alignment)
- EuchreJack can get players to join his pirate crew. He can leave a hat when he dies.
- Toony is a pirate-miller. Miller claiming is very fashionable in contemporary Bay12 meta, but so is giving people miller roles, and the specificity of the pirate role makes it more believable. Either Toony is an actual pirate or he looks like one as he claims.
- Hector (aristocrat), Sofanthiel (computer), Egan (RTD) or Imp (historical allegories, "watching the watchers") may have posting restrictions. If Tric wasn't Tric, he could have one. I think he just chooses to write like that.
- Tric almost certainly submitted another dragon role
- Imp claims to help scum factions on death... which is an odd thing for town to claim. Ill thought out? Scum-aligned? Hoping for a doc? A trap? Regardless of 'correct play', it feels town to me.
- Canadian Kitten is a self-evolver. (I think this unnecessary level of candidness is town-indicative.)
- Egan is running an RTD. I'll play along:
Hero
- Egan says that Pirates are second scum team, and that there are hunter third parties.
- Fallacy over-clarifies that Pirates would be scum in the thread. EJ rows back and claims to be pirate-miller after all and then starts spiralling, insulting everyone in what has come to be known as the Jackening.
- Web tries to steer the game away from an EJ lynch. Imp later notices this and suggests Web might already be on the pirate crew. Very believable.
- Almost half the player-base are voting Egan for some reason I somehow managed to miss. Is it just because they don't like RTDs??

What did I miss?


EuchreJack is undoubtedly the "correct" option today. I think the inevitable EOD mass-panic-voting could well resolve on EJ. The only thing that speaks against him accidentally outing himself as some kind of cult leader is that we have meta reasons to doubt Fallacy would put in a cult. But in an 18 player game, a limited conversion power isn't busted, I could see it happening. The spiralling did seem believable as "oh shit I have just lost the game before it already starte and now I'm throwing a tantrum".

But the funnier thing would be to vote out the most likely conversion target, Webadict. He's a slippery character and it'd be good to resolve the slot sooner rather than later. Flipping Wuba clarifies his puzzling defence of EJ and should tell us more about piracy.

The summary post I found wack enough to call out here. He gets some points for pushing a new wagon here, but I don't think it went anywhere?

I appreciate Max's hard line here. But I think we could see something which is not quite a cult. The three usual elements to a cult are: anti-town alignment, conversion, shared chat. Hector could have some but not all these elements. Here are some possibilities:
- Members of the pirate crew don't change their alignment, but they join a chat and get upgrades so long as the captain stays alive, so they have an incentive to target the other mafia team first.
- The same as above, but the converted die if the captain dies. Even stronger incentives!
- It's as EJ claims and piracy is a mechanic that turns people into millers.
- Pirates gain secondary alternatie wincons (unlikely, but not impossible in a BYOR)

Either way, swinging in with a sideways strategy seems the best approach. Resolving EJ at this stage tells us something about the player we know the most about.


Secretdorf, I'm not mafia so I refuse to acknowledge what may or may not be written in your hint

Imp, good stuff. Yes, I'm reasonably convinced now that EJ can't be a classic cult leader (also a classic cult leader would never announce themselves in thread).

Mechanical speculation and support for EJ's lynch.

Max, that would be very funny. How do you square Imp trying to say an Imp death would help scum? Proactive defence for a scum player? I think it's more bold and self-exposing than scum normally are, but obviously it's not impossible.

Elephant Parade, I had 150 posts to read back, so I definitely did some skimming, so thanks for updating me about some of the claims. None of what I wrote was "filler", it's all genuinely me trying to work out what's going on in the game and posting what I found.

Finally, interaction!

This isn't ambiguous unless you just can't parse the indirect phrasing.

When I die, it's likely everyone will wish I had died later, unless I'm the last kill needed for that side that needs me dead.
If I die by action of Pirate, Mafia, or SK - you benefit your enemies more than you benefit yourself.  I predict you and your team (if you have a team) will wish someone else had killed me, and killed me later in the game at that.

The claim is that if Imp is killed by an anti-town faction, it'd help that anti-town faction. Is Max trying to obfuscate here?

It's always been extremely ambiguous whether an Imp death is supposed to help or hurt scum and exactly who it'll help or hurt.

More interaction!

This Imp stuff is giving me a headache. I thought I knew what was being said but apparently not. Lynch all players with posting restrictions in order of annoyness is starting to feel like a viable strategy.

Jokey post. Null.

Web, you're right that reasoning wasn't very good. Two things I want to say: 1. thanks for telling me about your other claims, as I said before, I knew I would have missed a few things skimming to catch up, and I guess that was one of them. 2. I thought it'd be more fun to vote you than EJ. And it was probably more productive? I've learned a few things.

Max, Tric's role does look awfully like a conversion role. Like the kind of cult-adjacent thing I was suggesting could happen.

All to say:

EuchreJack is the obvious choice today, but we've got enough time to shake some more trees.

Votes EJ but doesn't ask anyone any questions, EJ included. Says there's time to shake more trees but doesn't actually do any tree-shaking!

You all have to admit, this is pretty good Day 1 drama. EITHER EJ accidentally self-implicated, had a meltdown, and eventually through encouragement of Web et al pulled himself out OR he is just a fake millerifier like he claims and went into a meltdown because his opening gambit shot himself in the foot. People seem to have become swayed towards the latter but I'm not sure I have a full sense why.

Imp, maybe it's your confusing post style, maybe I'm just tired, but could explain a little more clearly why you think EJ is in the clear?

Lenglon, I don't think a Canadian Kitten vote is likely today. Who's your #2 and #3 suspect?

A big reason for eliminating EJ today is it means we definitely get to talk about something different on D2. But if he genuinely is spiralling townie, then obviously let's not do that.

A little more interaction for the road. I don't like that the post ends on waffling.

Lots of null content, some waffling, no sustained interaction, little proactive interaction, nothing that's really gone anywhere.

Secondly, his N3 action, while plausible, could also have been a very good fakeclaim, as MS pointed out at the time. This isn't really evidence against him, but it does mean his night record isn't as continuous as he'd like it to be.

Finally, I stand by this post I made half an hour ago, misunderstanding aside:

Wait, hold on a minute (emphasis added):

That's a reasonable suspicion! Here's some possibilities:

1. It's a bluff/sofa is a bad player and he really will die for real

2. Sofa can't be killed until a scumbuddy dies

3. Sofa is a third party whose win condition is to die a certain number of times.

4. Sofa has a limited number of resses but its all a part of a plan to buy time for scum buddy to enact plan.

There must be at least two other mafia members, possibly more, possibly multiple teams, possible serial killers too. Even if we think Sofa is most likely scum, we can kill someone else today and block/follow/inspect/etc Sofa in the night.

PFP

Can we not have a player at L-1 so someone accidentally hammers?

More later

Pretty sure is L-2 right now as both Imp and I jumped off.

I backed off on this earlier when I realized I had misread the tone, but with a known scum redirector/merger/godknowswhat in play, "deal with the obvscum with night actions instead of the elimination" was a completely bonkers suggestion. What the hell, NQT?

I appreciate the context Imp provided, but I still think it's a strange and suspicious idea to float, at least without mentioning the obvious drawbacks. And it was his last post of Day 3 (which admittedly ended 18 hours later and rather suddenly).

I'm probably going to unvote when he gets back to me because, y'know, he got super inspected and it's been confirmed unredirectable. But that's the case.

[Imp]

Here's where Esteemed Lenglon said that:

I had strange results last night, I was marked for death, and my action was repeated despite me not double-actioning. I'd like to sit on my information until some more claims have been made before sharing if nobody minds.

[Imp]

*gazes longingly at Esteemed BlackHeartKabal, wondering if that racecar is the mysterious place where Esteemed Imp's original role went, and if that mysteriously could explain the double inspect result*

[Maximum Spin]

That's an excellent point and I'm willing to vote for the Esteemed BlackHeartKabal on that basis. Like web says, his heart is black and he is in a cabal. That's all you need to know.

Also, Esteemed Lenglon, I'm sorry I accidentally spilled all your information due to not paying attention to the fact that you were hiding it.

[Elephant Parade]

*gazes longingly at Esteemed BlackHeartKabal, wondering if that racecar is the mysterious place where Esteemed Imp's original role went, and if that mysteriously could explain the double inspect result*

Didn't your role go nowhere because you got roleswapped with someone whose role was unchangeable? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something (yet another redirect?), but I don't see how your role isn't just gone.

That's an excellent point and I'm willing to vote for the Esteemed BlackHeartKabal on that basis. Like web says, his heart is black and he is in a cabal. That's all you need to know.

Also, Esteemed Lenglon, I'm sorry I accidentally spilled all your information due to not paying attention to the fact that you were hiding it.

I'm also willing to vote BHK, but for going back into lurker mode as soon as people stopped gluing bombs to him.

[Elephant Parade]

Also, if BHK's role was overwritten with yours, Lenglon shouldn't have gotten deathmarked.

[Maximum Spin]

Didn't your role go nowhere because you got roleswapped with someone whose role was unchangeable? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something (yet another redirect?), but I don't see how your role isn't just gone.

Okay, yes, but the "definitely one of the Esteemed Lenglon's targets" part is the crucial part.

Uh, if I'm not entirely off the boat here, the other target may be our vote-stealer, but not the successful one.

[hector13]

I’ll wait until Esteemed Lenglon confirms, but I’m down with this.

I would really like to hear from Esteemed Knightwing64 too, given they should have two nights of actions to share.

Eh bugger it in fact, quite willing to accept Esteemed Secretdorf at this point won’t hammer this early.

Esteemed BlackHeartKabal

[Imp]

Esteemed Secretdorf, I am back to informing you I intend to policy wipe you, if you are even slightly involved in a hammer before I consent. I now know I cannot be redirected, even with that ability, and do not risk wiping an unintended target.  Please allow time to talk.

I do believe this is the accurate current votecount:

BlackHeartKabal (3):  Maximum Spin, Elephant Parade, hector13
Secretdorf (2):  Imp, Lenglon, notquitethere,
hector13 (1):  Jim Groovester,
notquitethere (0):
Elephant Parade (0):
Imp (0):
Jim Groovester (0):
Knightwing64 (0):
Lenglon (0):
Maximum Spin (0):
The Canadian kitten (0):
ToonyMan (0):

No Execution (0):

8 votes to hammer.

Not Voting (11): BlackHeartKabal, Elephant Parade, Lenglon, Secretdorf, Secretdorf, Secretdorf, Secretdorf, Secretdorf, The Canadian kitten, ToonyMan

Spoiler: D4 facts and claims (click to show/hide)

D4 facts:

No deaths.
Esteemed CrystalizedMire is again banished.
8 votes to hammer
Esteemed Secretdorf has 5 votes, 2 more than the day before when they 'unneccessarily hammered' at the final minute of play, bringing the vote count exactly to hammer.
Esteemed Jim Groovester, known for vote stealing, has one vote.
Esteemed Knightwing64 has no vote.

D4 claims so far:

Esteemed Jim Groovester "Knightwing64 doesn't have a vote, and I don't have Knightwing64's vote, so both me and Secretdorf were randomized to Knightwing64, or we both targeted Knightwing64 because we have the same sense in who we want to steal votes from. I don't know about Secretdorf, but I targeted Knightwing64 during N3." and confirms didn't get targeted with the intended 'Esteem' ability from Esteemed hector13.

Esteemed hector13 claims to have targeted Esteemed Jim Groovester with an ability granting power that appears to have succeeded, however a disturbed Esteemed Maximum Spin claims to have received.

Esteemed BlackHeartKabal [not yet spoken] but Esteemed Lenglon claims their Mark.

Esteemed Elephant Parade 'I roleblocked (and bombed) CM again.'  Appears to indicate they did this because they think that worthy is scum

Esteemed Imp claims to have properly 'Esteemed Webadict inspected' Esteemed notquitethere, and gotten the definite and certain result 'town'.

Esteemed Knightwing64 [not yet spoken]

Esteemed Lenglon "I had strange results last night, I was marked for death, and my action was repeated despite me not double-actioning. I'd like to sit on my information until some more claims have been made before sharing if nobody minds."  "Max: I targeted you, I was fulfilling my D1 implied promise of checking the miller claims."

Esteemed Maximum Spin (to Esteemed Lenglon) "I certainly know that you used your chat-detector and it hit two players, but I don't know whom."

Esteemed notquitethere reports that Esteemed Toonyman self-targetted and either targetted Esteemed Imp, or was targetted by Esteemed Imp (Esteemed Imp confirms did not knowingly self-target, and does not currently appear to have any self-target abilities).

Esteemed Secretdorf [not yet spoken] presumed involved in loss of Esteemed Knightwing64's vote.

Esteemed The Canadian kitten investigated Esteemed Secretdorf, got result 'town'.

Esteemed ToonyMan "I only targeted Imp. I can't target more than one person with my protect. Are you saying I also targeted myself last night? Because this is sounding like the unclaimed "merger" at work again, making me and Imp "merge"."

Spoiler: D3 facts and claims (click to show/hide)

D3 facts:

Esteemed Webadict was killed as a very simplified Warehouse 13.
Esteemed The Canadian kitten was killed, revived. (the cat came back?)
Esteemed Crystalizedmire and Esteemed Kightwing64 went missing.
Esteemed Secretdorf had 3 votes, Esteemed sofanthiel had none, everyone else had the expected 1.

D3 claims:

Esteemed Imp:  Whut?  Oh, it's all so simple now.  Plus, 2 visitors to Esteemed ToonyMan last night and all I got was this lousy t-shirt of a new role.

Esteemed Toonyman:  Bus and swap between Esteemed Webadict and Esteemed Imp. 

Esteemed Secretdorf:  'I am a vote stealer.  Somehow I got 2.' (blatant twinsie of Esteemed Jim Groovester's N1 claim)

Esteemed Jim Groovester:  Attempted to steal Esteemed Sofanthiel's vote, and gained an 'infestation' on his gun.

Esteemed Elephant Parade:  Blocky-bombing Esteemed BlackHeartKabal and got some creepy spirit voodoo (same as we saw before?  Still not actually word-for-word confirmed but expected to be based on claims)

Esteemed Maximum Spin:  Repeated an action, gained knowledge of flavor, and protected someone.

Esteemed Lenglon:  'Esteemed Toonyman is not in a group chat.'

Esteemed the Canadian Kitten:  Inspects Esteemed Sofanthiel, dies and revives.

Esteemed notquitethere:  Blocked Esteemed BlackHeartKabal and gained 'Marked By Death'.  Confirms has vote again after it was gone D2.

Esteemed sofanthiel:  laughter and no comment about night activities.  "I will reveal that information exclusively if I deem doing so beneficial or vital.  Neither is the case right now."

Esteemed Hector13:  Targeted Imp for whatever (bus means likely redirected to Esteemed Webadict)

Esteemed BlackHeartKabal: Ghost blocked by being visited by living, now has a bomb on their vessel (racecar).

Spoiler: D2 facts and claims: (click to show/hide)

D2 Facts:

Esteemed sofanthiel was killed and revived N1.  (probably from their on/off power)
Esteemed Jim Groovester had 3 votes, Esteemed notquitethere had none, all others had the expected 1.

D2 claims:
Esteemed Imp:  Roleblocked, gained and lost status 'Marked By Death', gained a ability from Hector13.  Given much flavor of Hector13.

Esteemed Toonyman:  "I protected Imp last night. Nothing else happened."

Esteemed hector13:  Gave an 'Esteemed' ability to Esteemed Imp who confirms that happened and uncertainly thinks is probably beneficial, but notes cannot confirm any of the claims made about this thing.

Esteemed CrystalizedMire:  Roleblocked and given a bomb.  Claimed targeting "visiting" Esteemed hector13, did not state purpose of visit.  Only said this about Esteemed hector13 that day, so not clear purpose for target:

hector13 seems to be town but unfortunately, my lack of patience makes it hard for me to fully absorb them

Esteemed Elephant Parade:  "I roleblocked and planted a bomb on CM because I found her the most suspicious of the low-heat players and figured it would be a low-heat player who performed the mafiakill."

Esteemed The Canadian kitten:  "I am the Cat Came Back" and roleblocked while visiting Esteemed Sofanthiel (note is investigative in nature, and likely affected by Egan's nightkill + 'merged target' between Esteemed Sofanthiel and Esteemed notquitethere that happened N2?)

Esteemed Jim Groovester:  "I stole sofanthiel's vote before you ask, but as far as I know I only stole one singular vote so I don't know where the third vote came from or why sofanthiel still has a vote."

Esteemed Secretdorf:  "As might be obvious, I do not have any definite scumreads"

I have nothing significant to share.

I do not have any specific preferences although it would be bad to lose Webadict, Jim or lenglon. They seem most likely town to me. I did not think I would be killed because I have not claimed any threatening abilities and people in general are finding me pretty suspicious so mafia would probably want to use me as a mislynch.

As for why I said Jim's going to be nightkilled, Jim just seemed town to me. And I doubted anyone was going to protect him.

Esteemed Egan_BW:  Not claimed, but surely used the nightkill. OR someone else used their nightkill and they used their 'double up tomorrow' ability, or who knows.

Esteemed notquitethere:  "I do know that Elephant Parade didn't try to kill me or Sofanthiel." later directly claimed "Tracked EP"

Esteemed Knightwing64:  "I have an ability that let’s me see if my target inspected anyone and what the results of that inspection was."  Seems to have targetted Esteemed Webadict.

Esteemed sofanthiel: Scum weirdness -

I did perform an action during my hibernation, but that plan has yet to come to fruition, which is why I am not going to claim any night actions yet.

I know that I'm being truthful (all I received was a bite of flavor text), and you claiming to be certain that I'm withholding some details means one of two things:
1. You're trying to maliciously throw me under the wagon by portraying me as deceitful, or...
2. You know more about my night activities than I do; however, you mistakenly assumed that I too have access to that intelligence.

Esteemed ImpWebadict: 

Oh look, Egan_BW WAS a suspect, and Jack wasn't.  I'd also like to point out that this makes ToonyMan a likely ally of Egan.  If only we listened to me more often.

Knightwing is Town, btw.

I was Roleblocked.  My assumption is that I was Roleblocked by the same thing that Roleblocked The Canadian kitten, which is why Maximum Spin has information I don't.  Additionally, this is why Knightwing64 got no information.  Crystalizedmire solved that one pretty simply.

I'm pretty sure sofanthiel is scum.  In fact, it's entirely possible that it only looked like TCk got Roleblocked, and sofanthiel was actually hit by the die-and-revive.

Esteemed BlackHeartKabal:  Didn't claim D2, but revealed D3 to have targeted Esteemed Imp for roleblock/Marked By Death.

Esteemed Lenglon: Tracked the Esteemed hector13 to Esteemed Imp.

Esteemed Maximum Spin:  Sees a lot of interesting actions in the night, 'If I am not mistaken, Egan_BW attempted to kill notquitethere but accidentally killed sofanthiel.'  'I know what happened but don't worry about it. It wasn't me, to be clear.' 'Knightwing is Town, btw.'  'I'm concerned that Knightwing might be in a similar boat to TricMagic re: being able to stop being town.'  'CERTAIN visitors of Steamed Sofanthiel got roleblocked. No, it wasn't me doing it, but I saw it happen. You'll understand after the lynch so there's no point in me leaking information right now.' 'the way I learned all these actions. That's the main thing I can do besides passively protect.'  'To make a long story short, the mafiakill caused the blocking because of its power.  Unrelatedly, I'm more sure that sofanthiel is up to something shady now.'

[Elephant Parade]

Please stop using giant text every third message