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[ToonyMan]

If what I'm thinking that NQT said is true, then I'm starting to suspect that the non-Mafia scum team tried to kill me and Imp last night in one attempt and failed because I protected us both.

[Imp]

Hmm. I know for suresies I acted on you, though I haven’t actually asked how my abilities interact with redirects or things of that ilk.

I've already asked about this privately, but let's confirm we all can understand from the source:

Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist, please would you explain how you would handle a redirect, including provide an example?  Perhaps if Player1 targeted Player2 for an inspect, and was successfully redirected to Player3, what would you inform Player1 of?

[ToonyMan]

It's pretty clear who the "merger" targeted on N2, it would have been Knightwing and Crystal because both got banished when Sofantheil's ability can only target one player normally.

[Imp]

Esteemed Imp, can you ask Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist if your post restriction thing activated?

Esteemed hector13, which post restriction?  And what kind of activated?

[Maximum Spin]

Max: I targeted you, I was fulfilling my D1 implied promise of checking the miller claims. In case it wasn't retroactively obvious since yesterday why I kept asking for Jack to not include our millers in his group chat offers day 1.

That's what I suspected. I don't know who you actually hit, but I don't have any group chats.

But it also sounds like you hit a pair of merged players, right? So, the logical conclusion from what was just stated is... that the player of that pair who you hadn't already confirmed was a "no", must be the "yes".

[hector13]

Hmm. I know for suresies I acted on you, though I haven’t actually asked how my abilities interact with redirects or things of that ilk.

I've already asked about this privately, but let's confirm we all can understand from the source:

Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist, please would you explain how you would handle a redirect, including provide an example?  Perhaps if Player1 targeted Player2 for an inspect, and was successfully redirected to Player3, what would you inform Player1 of?

This doesn’t apply to my ability, but whatever.

Esteemed Imp, can you ask Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist if your post restriction thing activated?

Esteemed hector13, which post restriction?  And what kind of activated?

Being calm and kind, which makes you an unstoppable force in relation to your target or whatever since I can’t be bothered checking Esteemed webadict’s flip.

It's pretty clear who the "merger" targeted on N2, it would have been Knightwing and Crystal because both got banished when Sofantheil's ability can only target one player normally.

This doesn’t explain Esteemed Crystalizedmire being banished again.

[FallacyofUrist]

Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist, please would you explain how you would handle a redirect, including provide an example?  Perhaps if Player1 targeted Player2 for an inspect, and was successfully redirected to Player3, what would you inform Player1 of?

In such a case, I would inform Player 1 that Player 2 inspected as whatever Player 3's result was.

So if Mephansteras targeted Shakerag, but was redirected to TolyK, and Shakerag was Town, but TolyK was Mafia, then Mephansteras would learn 'Shakerag is Mafia'.

I used to inform players when they were redirected, but after feedback, I stopped doing that because it made it too easy to figure out setups.

[Maximum Spin]

This doesn’t explain Esteemed Crystalizedmire being banished again.

A certain individual seems to have made it possible for the dead to act.

[Imp]

I will also note that following said post restriction appears to control the ability to use kill actions, which is why it's awfully concerning that I already know a player is following it.

Presuming you're talking about me, I stated before I started following it that I had no need to, that I could break it and suffer, currently, no known consequence and gladly would to hide the bestower, as I thought that Courtly one might be town and have things to hide.

However, the Esteemed Hector told me there was an additional benefit to following it, presumably under that one's control, and I would learn later what that benefit was.

Of note, nothing that one claimed has happened to me, absolutely nothing.  That might be because of other meddling and innocent misunderstanding of how the abilities work.

[hector13]

Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist, please would you explain how you would handle a redirect, including provide an example?  Perhaps if Player1 targeted Player2 for an inspect, and was successfully redirected to Player3, what would you inform Player1 of?

In such a case, I would inform Player 1 that Player 2 inspected as whatever Player 3's result was.

So if Mephansteras targeted Shakerag, but was redirected to TolyK, and Shakerag was Town, but TolyK was Mafia, then Mephansteras would learn 'Shakerag is Mafia'.

I used to inform players when they were redirected, but after feedback, I stopped doing that because it made it too easy to figure out setups.

Alright cool the maybe it does apply to me. I was told I targeted Esteemed Jim Groovester.

[notquitethere]

Toonyman, can you confirm you self-targeted and targeted Imp? Or are you saying you only targeted Imp?

I only targeted Imp. I can't target more than one person with my protect. Are you saying I also targeted myself last night? Because this is sounding like the unclaimed "merger" at work again, making me and Imp "merge".

Possibly! Or it was the unclaimed randomisation effect Max says may be in effect and I was randomised to someone else.

OK, I'm sleeping for real this time.

[Maximum Spin]

Presuming you're talking about me,

No, I was referring to the source of all esteem. Remember, when you presume, you press you to me.

So you weren't told that not following that restriction would prevent you from using kills or protects?

[hector13]

We’re forgetting the two-step process I mentioned. I was prevented from acting on Esteemed Imp because Esteemed ToonyMan is a dick decided to bus Esteemed Imp and Esteemed webadict.

[Maximum Spin]

I was under the imp-ression that step 1 had gone off, but not step 2 (because of that).

[hector13]

Yeah. Step one is the thing you’re worried about. You have enough information to figure out step two, to be perfectly honest.