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[Imp]

So Imp knows my true alignment now does he.

I don't know whose alignment I know.  But I know I did not target you N3.  Was I redirected to you?  Good question.  I don't have a way to know.

[hector13]

Huh, still alive.

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I investigated Secretdorf, my result shows them as town

Esteemed Imp, the above is important. Please stop the rampant paranoia, unless you can convince me Esteemed The Canadian kitten and Esteemed Secretdorf are working together, in addition to Esteemed Maximum Spin’s current claims.

[ToonyMan]

Hector is probably scum with Secretdorf then, yes?

Conceivable. There's flavor involving being caught in webs involved, though, which I seem to recall hearing about the last day.

I think I believe NQT more than Secretdorf right now, but it could be possible if Imp's inspect on NQT was redirected (is this possible?). I don't inherently find Secretdorf scummy (similar to Elephant Parade) and I don't see arguments why Secretdorf is scum besides "they have a lot of votes".

[The Canadian kitten]

Welp, I’m inclined not to vote for Esteemed Secretdorf this day.

PPE: maybe, anyway. Esteemed The Canadian kitten, does your abilities say anything about how they interact with Millers/Godfathers/anything that may change inspection results?

It does not

Huh, still alive.

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I investigated Secretdorf, my result shows them as town

Okay, cool. What were the conditions that made you die and revive again? I'm vaguely worried that Secretdorf is a killless godfather SK or something (especially since you don't need a kill when you're a walking hammer).

I actually changed my abilities after dying the first time. Me saying the still alive is more about the fact that I expected myself to die this night.
My three conditions were: anti town, kill action, or visiting me.

My abilities changed slightly so I now learn alignment of player and can kill them if they use a kill action or visit me.

[Maximum Spin]

Hector is probably scum with Secretdorf then, yes?

Conceivable. There's flavor involving being caught in webs involved, though, which I seem to recall hearing about the last day.

I think I believe NQT more than Secretdorf right now, but it could be possible if Imp's inspect on NQT was redirected (is this possible?). I don't inherently find Secretdorf scummy (similar to Elephant Parade) and I don't see arguments why Secretdorf is scum besides "they have a lot of votes".

It sounds like that inspect hit you.

[ToonyMan]

So Imp knows my true alignment now does he.

I don't know whose alignment I know.  But I know I did not target you N3.  Was I redirected to you?  Good question.  I don't have a way to know.

I said that thinking you targeted me last night since I had not read your most recent post yet. I don't know if you were messed with at all. If nothing happened then you most likely did inspect NQT like you claim.

[Elephant Parade]

We're on a roll.

Toony self-targeted, and either targeted Imp or was targeted by Imp.

Also, Imp and Toony were telling the truth about their rolename claims.

3 votes is hammer range for the Esteemed Secretdorf.

I don't know yet if I may have been redirected.  I targeted Esteemed notquitethere with a basic inspect last night, I believe my condition was met (which doesn't prevent redirects as far as I know.  Esteemed notquitethere, or whomever I was directed to, is town.

I celebrated my return to PC with spreadsheets:

OK. Between you using a track again and Imp's inspect, I guess the mechanics say you're town. I have a hard time squaring that with your daygame, but I don't think you're my top elimination candidate anymore. Unvote.

I declared the roleblock D2 from N1.

I declared that I gained and lost status effect from Esteemed BlackHeartKabal N1.  Esteemed Toonyman claims able to remove status effects, Esteemed Hector13, who I am certain targeted me N1, claims not to remove status effects.  The ability gain from Esteemed hector13 did not indicate it removed status effects, but that's all I can confirm.

Thanks.

[hector13]

Oh the webs aren’t me. I only do the post restriction. Both Esteemed Imp and Esteemed Jim Groovester would be able to confirm that webs aren’t involved, unless you consider excessive etiquette to be a web.

[Elephant Parade]

Oops, accidentally stuffed the first part of my post into a quote. Here's what it was meant to look like:

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We're on a roll.

Toony self-targeted, and either targeted Imp or was targeted by Imp.

Also, Imp and Toony were telling the truth about their rolename claims.

3 votes is hammer range for the Esteemed Secretdorf.

I don't know yet if I may have been redirected.  I targeted Esteemed notquitethere with a basic inspect last night, I believe my condition was met (which doesn't prevent redirects as far as I know.  Esteemed notquitethere, or whomever I was directed to, is town.

OK. Between you using a track again and Imp's inspect, I guess the mechanics say you're probably town. I have a hard time squaring that with your daygame, but I don't think you're my top elimination candidate anymore. Unvote.

[Maximum Spin]

Oh the webs aren’t me. I only do the post restriction. Both Esteemed Imp and Esteemed Jim Groovester would be able to confirm that webs aren’t involved, unless you consider excessive etiquette to be a web.

Well, that's the concerning thing. The webs and the esteem are directly related. It gives the impression that you two are on the same team.

[notquitethere]

Spoiler: Irrelevant due to post ninjas (click to show/hide)

You have consistently given me bad vibes.

Town spend most time suspecting town. Push through it.

You pushed against sofanthiel's lynch yesterday.

Incorrect. I said Sofa should be eliminated and put him on L-1 at one point. I unvoted to hear out Imp's concerns, but was clearly and explicitly happy with a Sofa elimination:

All to say we should definitely bin BHK or Sofanthiel today.

You made an unverified claim on a night with at least one unclaimed scum action, possibly two (I don't see why town would curse (?) JG but who knows).

Okay, and now apply this reasoning to the players on day one. Would it have been better if I'd have lied about what I did? Think this through.

The only player to have flipped town had you at the bottom of their read list.

This doesn't reflect his thoughts at end of day: Egan was who he wanted to eliminate.

You're seeking rationalisations here, take a step back. And also consider this:

3 votes is hammer range for the Esteemed Secretdorf.

I don't know yet if I may have been redirected.  I targeted Esteemed notquitethere with a basic inspect last night, I believe my condition was met (which doesn't prevent redirects as far as I know.  Esteemed notquitethere, or whomever I was directed to, is town.

Max

Hector is probably scum with Secretdorf then, yes?

Conceivable. There's flavor involving being caught in webs involved, though, which I seem to recall hearing about the last day.

Max, are you saying Hector received flavor about being caught in a web yesterday? He explicitly denied receiving that. If this is the case, I agree, he's scum. Or is it something else?

[Imp]

I investigated Secretdorf, my result shows them as town

Esteemed Imp, the above is important. Please stop the rampant paranoia, unless you can convince me Esteemed The Canadian kitten and Esteemed Secretdorf are working together, in addition to Esteemed Maximum Spin’s current claims.
[/quote]

Hey, I don't trust you.  And you can help me understand why there's nothing to be concerned about and this looks like town play.  Because telling me what to do earns you nothing but further concern from me.

Calm and kind concern.

Redirects exist.  Nothing is solved.  And I read that person's play as problematic and the attitude of 'no it isn't' without helping me understand why also problematic.  I say this can be discussed, and should be.

Teach me, don't order me.  It isn't 'effective'.

[Lenglon]

Max: I know who I targeted, but not who I was redirected to. My actions had different results so at least one did not hit my initial target.

[Imp]

Oh the webs aren’t me. I only do the post restriction. Both Esteemed Imp and Esteemed Jim Groovester would be able to confirm that webs aren’t involved, unless you consider excessive etiquette to be a web.

I do confirm there is nothing of 'webs' in what happened to me N1 which was clearly of Esteemed hector13's doing.  'web of mystery and Esteemed-ness', sure.  Webs of spider or any other sort, absolutely not.

[Jim Groovester]

Oh the webs aren’t me. I only do the post restriction. Both Esteemed Imp and Esteemed Jim Groovester would be able to confirm that webs aren’t involved, unless you consider excessive etiquette to be a web.

I can't confirm anything about webs nor wanting to call everyone Esteemed Hams.