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[Maximum Spin]

What is your understanding of how it would be different, other than that person would still be alive?

For one thing, it could be reversed.

[Imp]

Look Imp, I could laugh at your expense

Also, why not ask my consent?  You sure seem to have intended to ask my confirmation after, so why not ask me before?

[Imp]

For one thing, it could be reversed.

Amazing.  How?  Details, please, because see his role.  He is immune to everything. He caught my name, period.  He didn't even get the items, which looks interesting.  Wonder if someone else has those, if they went up in smoke, or what.  I sure don't have them now.

[Imp]

Wonder if someone else has those, if they went up in smoke, or what.  I sure don't have them now.

Furthermore, I'd think that meant 'imp went off' because that would make the items go.  Except, I still have that innate.  And there was one very special item that we would all see if the person with it died.  I don't currently have that.  I don't know what may have happened to it, except I do not have it, and it is not on that corpse, nor can it be on a corpse, and we would all be told if the bearer died.

[ToonyMan]

Look Imp, I could laugh at your expense

Also, why not ask my consent?  You sure seem to have intended to ask my confirmation after, so why not ask me before?

I wasn't going to say in thread that I plan on bussing Imp and Web.

To be critical I think you need to look at this game as a town player and not just as yourself.

I didn't think you would take this role swap so bad which I am regretting.

[Maximum Spin]

Amazing.  How?  Details, please, because see his role.  He is immune to everything. He caught my name, period.  He didn't even get the items, which looks interesting.  Wonder if someone else has those, if they went up in smoke, or what.  I sure don't have them now.

I am operating under the assumption that ToonyMan didn't know that. I agree that he clearly should have, but the point is that the situation looks different from the other end.

Items are just part of your role, so, if your role was obliterated, items were obliterated.

[Imp]

For one thing, it could be reversed.

How?  Details, please.

[Maximum Spin]

We now know it couldn't have, yes. I'm talking about what Toonyman would have thought at the time.

Can we please not let this soak up all the air out of this Day? I appreciate that it is very unpleasant, but arguing about it isn't forwarding a town wincon.

[Imp]

I didn't think you would take this role swap so bad which I am regretting.

This is, to me, explaining, calmly and nicely, that you did indeed break my nose, my arm, and my spine.  This is fact to me, which I explain because it is fact.

I'm perfectly content to have The Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist decide if I'm breaking that condition or not.  For all we never played before, I feel pretty understood by that one.

Also, to get the role back, if that's even possible, I clearly need to break it.

[Maximum Spin]

I cannot possibly imagine describing any of this as "calm" so I guess that works then.

[Imp]

For one thing, it could be reversed.

He is the one who said it couldn't be reversed.  That it was permanent.

Now, Esteemed ToonyMan, who is so very much your role... Can you tell me, is this temporary?  Or am I whatever I am, forever?

It's forever.

So, I want to know what he claims to think would be different if Webadict was alive now.

[Maximum Spin]

It doesn't matter what ToonyMan thinks would be different because that has nothing to do with who wins this game of mafia.

[Imp]

It doesn't matter what ToonyMan thinks would be different because that has nothing to do with who wins this game of mafia.

So, this cannot have anything to do with his intentions, his wincon, and the truth he tells or doesn't?  As he innocently makes town-harming mistake after mistake, 'oops, oops'.  Can you explain, Esteemed Maximum Spin, why you don't see this as potentially not-town-aligned play?

[ToonyMan]

What do you mean? We're all calm here. Nice and calm.

It seems very likely to me that Sofanthiel is mafia. We'll hear what they have to say.

I want to reevaluate my reads on the game so far...I have some thoughts. I think I gotta crash forr the holidays at this point though for now.

[Imp]

What do you mean? We're all calm here. Nice and calm.

It seems very likely to me that Sofanthiel is mafia. We'll hear what they have to say.

I want to reevaluate my reads on the game so far...I have some thoughts. I think I gotta crash forr the holidays at this point though for now.

I expect you to explain your thoughts and your claims, including what you think would be different if the Esteemed Webadict were still alive.  Your thoughts better make sense, or we have to consider why they don't.

I hope you sleep well.  Merry Christmas.