Now, back to NQT's question, my reason for wanting OUT of the game was not just Toony. Eh, I could live with Toony coming after me, he does it most games.
No, I had Toony AND Hector AND Egan coming after me. Plus NQT had already condemned me as a lost cause.
Then, as I start to clear my name the tiniest bit,
two THREE lurkers jump in screaming "HA HA JACK SCUMSLIPPED".
Then I lost it, and figured I might as well just get out.
Those were:
Firstly - lets calm down with the spats. If not for simply being nice, then because, pragmatically personal bias and distaste will interfere with the ability to make unbiased reads of others.
Alright. ToonyMan had the right of it, and is my strongest town candidate, in that he's focusing on confirmation, and, playing optimally, wouldn't have made a single comment on that mess if he were anything but town. Imp has a comprehensive claim that's quite extra for a fakeclaim, and their primary opposition was a Town/SK role - but we were ignoring EuchreJack, who basically outed themselves earlier. Web and Max were actively trying to cover for this, which... what? I can't reconcile that with being town, but at the same time I think webadict is town.
I feel like I'm the only one besides Toony that didn't get the opposite day memo. And I feel like that bullet from Jim pulled some grazing ricochet off of everyone else's heads on the way to target and knocked some sense into them.
Every problem can be solved with death, but the game can't be won by killing everyone.
But at the same time, we can't just turn down every suspect because we're afraid of errors and wine.
Riiiiiiiiight. So you expect me to buy that you post only after you get voted by coincidence, at which point you post three times in rapid succession. Your only comment about the game is to say that the most popular scumpicks of others are your scumpicks, because of reasons that are nonsensical nulltells, one of them even being able to be summed up as an active-lurking accusation!
No, it's obvious that you are acting entirely to protect yourself, not trying to find scum. You are completely disengaged with the game, attempting to coast by on the sidelines unnoticed and unobserved. You have no real reads, you have no real suspects, you have zero interest in finding scum and aren't even making an attempt at doing so. You are not town.
I don't think that this is a bad vote, but there's always the possibility of this being psychological pressure and not wanting to be the first to die after being marked as a suspect due to lurking. Of course, now they can't possibly be the first to die, but being the first lynch is close enough. They would make a good investigation target, if possible. I'm personally having an issue keeping track of all the arguments (which I'm managing by just rejecting, wholesale, all the ones I consider to be wrong). Real life concerns compound this, and are something that wouldn't be lied about. I can admire the LAL policy, but I think that you're hyperfocusing on it a bit. I consider you as part of the core "very likely town" bloc right now, so I value your reads on others, here.
Shivers
Horses and zebras. My idea of it, presuming prior theories of two scum teams is correct, is that Jack is meant to build his own scum team on the first night - which, if correct, makes this an effective four in one. I do hope that I'm not tunneling on the potential value of this, though.
This doesn't clear sofanthiel if Jack flips scum, though - they could agree with hector's suspicion to eliminate a competitor rather than eliminate scum.
Let me also say to everyone relevant that with all of these factors in play, I think the self-sacrificing behaviour can relax a little. I get that we have numbers advantage over scum teams and such, and that victory is no less sweeter in the graveyard, but one bad night could flip that on its head. Disposability of a piece is for when that piece can achieve something in doing so.
Now to reread the thread again, to ensure I didn't miss anything.
Fallacy said pirates are the second scum team. Jack said he is pirate captain and was supposed to recruit 3 pirates. I'm not very brilliant, so I can only conclude that Jack is the second mafia team. Am I missing something?
Yes, that's not what Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist said:
In the opening post, I state that no alignments outside of the listed ones may exist. Pirates are not explicitly listed as an alignment. However...
(Very Rare, Requires Large Game) The other scumteam may take up any villainous-sounding factional name. They share the same rules and win condition as the Mafia - and yes, they will need to fight the Mafia in order to achieve their win condition, and vice versa, because it turns out this town isn't big enough for two groups of murderers.
The only way for Pirate to be an alignment would be for it to be a scumteam alignment.
He said if an alignment called Pirates exist, they would be scum, which is not at all the same as confirming that there are two scum teams, one of which is called Pirates.
Yes, Most Esteemifying Hector, but I believe that between the claims of Imp, Egan and Toonyman, we have enough reason to believe that they actually exist.
I feel kind of mean saying this, especially when Jack included me in possible recruits list(which I appreciate), but I do not see any reason why we Jack should not be the D1 lynch. I cannot understand why Webadict thinks Jack is town. I mean, he literally admitted that pirates was supposed to be red in his PM. There are other possibilities, but they are not likely enough to be true to warrant not eliminating Jack today.
Oh sweet, more talking to do
Are you willing to take this as an answer?
That Imp's posts and "Posting Restriction" is very annoying to read and decipher? (Admittedly not the best I am already tired of how Imp writes)
That Egan barely does anything other than comment on the recent happenings and more focused on trying to make a RTD inside Mafia?
That Euchre seems very quick to insult (Would add something but already forgotten)
Apologies that I can't seem to come up with more concrete evidence, most of this is flying over my head
Euchre seems quick to insult? Do you miss his pirate king claim? Or do you believe he is a jester?
For now I want to hear what sofanthiel has to say. What are your thoughts about the Jack bandwagon?
After absorbing the synopsis kindly provided by NQT a few pages ago, I can conclude that I might have bitten slightly more than I could chew. Not to say this isn't fun; only that, y'know, it's tough to form an opinion on anything whatsoever, especially when I have to split my attention between two activities that both require nigh-full dedication.
perhaps you’d like to join us and follow the advice Esteemed Lenglon and I gave Esteemed The Canadian kitten?
While I would usually simply read through your post history, I doubt that will be a viable option for me here. I hope you don't mind repeating said piece of advice, thank you very much. 
Huh, so, it's okay if you do it, but not others.
I did so before it was established that such an act was considered a scumtell; you, on the other hand, already had that knowledge.
If my role PM is anything to go by, this game seems exponentially more complex than that. 
What the above touches on is no secret, but I don't see a world in which your request for me to clarify specifically what that statement was referring to is not rolefishing.
So... my read ends with thinking you intend to coast into D2, that that's your strat. Others can scumhunt, others can work. You'll just take what looks good, and play, and look boldly heroic where it's not clearly work at all.
Honestly, hoping I survive until there is a more manageable number of participants is, as much as it sucks, probably the main path forward I see.
Here's what I understand so far:
EJ had some conflict with hector, web, and Toony over the existence of pirates, which resulted in a bandwagon. I believe Jack might've slipped, hoping that we would think that pirates are a town-aligned role (because why else would EJ reveal himself so early on, hm?), thus letting him download movies uncontested.
Leng wants to lynch all those who contribute little... like Knightwing, TCk, and others, to which I say, "Down with the lurkers!"... Yeah, haha, totes...
Imp confirmed the existence of pirates, revealing that he has hidden information, which was contested by Egan, whose messages I need to analyze more. I definitely think that Imp's contribution at least makes him oppose pirates, but doesn't necessarily make him town, as there may be other mafia teams.
The issue is that usually I can just re-read everything relevant to assess the accuracy of what's stored in my memory. This time, however, I doubt any amount of staring at my monitor will help.
What do you think of that read?
What do you think about making that impression?
What are you going to do?
I think you definitely tried to spin the situation you focused on in your favor, which isn't a good look, though it's also not something I can really blame you for. The rest is not super inaccurate, even though that pains me to admit.
'Tis a shame, and I'm not proud of my performance, but what can ya do? Oh, wait, I can improve it. I'll definitely try, and you can definitely definitely expect a lot more from me on the weekdays.
Guess pressing on Max with my one vote is as fruitless a task as changing the earth's trajectory by jumping on a trampoline. Regardless, I have plans to use my ability when the time comes, which is going to be the center point of my playstyle during this game.
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Reasonably sure at least 1, if not more, are the scumteam.
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