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Author Topic: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 2 Revision)  (Read 13047 times)

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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Strategy)
« Reply #315 on: October 20, 2023, 08:09:55 pm »

Personally I'm surprised we're doing a strategic stage I thought we were gonna blow through the 5 designs and then do the strategic but I thought wrong.
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Strategy)
« Reply #316 on: October 20, 2023, 08:25:00 pm »

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« Reply #317 on: October 20, 2023, 10:43:25 pm »

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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Strategy)
« Reply #318 on: October 20, 2023, 11:56:15 pm »

Come on guys, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. How many other ARs end up with a NE Bullet? We could turn the soldier into a national hero for it.

It's not like we're giving up any sort of advantage here, and they got the shit roll as well, so we know they'll be fixing whatever they did rather than reacting.

Also, that should be on 4-4 now.
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« Reply #319 on: October 21, 2023, 12:49:45 am »

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I gotta err on the side of funny
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« Reply #320 on: October 21, 2023, 08:24:18 am »

It's a single bullet. Own up to the rule of cool and that one solider being a hero.
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« Reply #321 on: October 21, 2023, 08:44:53 am »

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Let me just fix those numbers real quick

Edit: Also, I say we name the one guy who has the ammo Wojtek, after the bear that fought in the polish army
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Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 2 Design)
« Reply #322 on: October 21, 2023, 09:30:31 pm »

Preliminary Turn 2

It is now your second Design Phase. While your forces build up the defenses along No Man's Land, you are tasked with developing the weaponry the soldiers will use to defend it. In this case specifically this means some sort of machine gun or mortar. Have fun, scrubs.

Edited to add: Reminder that the report is in the core thread if you forgot.

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« Reply #323 on: October 21, 2023, 09:36:42 pm »

 Machinegun seems to the prudent choice. We're on the backfoot, and I assume they're going to head for a mortar that allows them to take advantage of their initiative. A machinegun to stem the bleeding until we can get support equipment and heavy artillery sounds like a good idea to me. Cut up any advances that try to take ground and pepper any sharpshooter positions with volleys of lead allowing infantry to push forward and make use of their superior firepower.
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« Reply #324 on: October 21, 2023, 09:46:47 pm »

Yeah if they are doing melee rushing, a machine gun is the better choice of the two. On the other hand, artillery is the natural enemy of snipers.
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 2 Design)
« Reply #325 on: October 21, 2023, 09:50:28 pm »

Yeah if they are doing melee rushing, a machine gun is the better choice of the two. On the other hand, artillery is the natural enemy of snipers.
Rather oddly, they seem intent on both.

and I assume they're going to head for a mortar that allows them to take advantage of their initiative.
I think we can safely assume they'll go for mortars because they explode more.
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« Reply #326 on: October 21, 2023, 10:32:59 pm »

I want to say not going mortars sounds like a mistake, but prelim round 4 is indirect fire, so we wouldn't be behind on Artillery if we do that. Sure, our troops would suffer the next two turns but we'd be up an MG if all goes well, especially since I assume our revision is going to fixing the ammo to not be NE. Hells, if we get good enough rolls we could do exploding ammo MGs.
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« Reply #327 on: October 21, 2023, 10:38:35 pm »

Welp, what's the mood then?

High Caliber Heavy Machinegun? Flexible Medium MG? Light and Mobile MG? Battle Rifle?
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« Reply #328 on: October 21, 2023, 11:48:05 pm »

Observe.

Quote from: 'Glass Cannon' Glass-Firing Mortar
The Glass Cannon is a mortar primarily designed for rapid, portable use. Fundamentally it is a long, steel tube with a detachable bipod, which may be secured onto the base of the tube while the tube is braced against the ground, forming the full mortar. A capable soldier may carry both the tube and bipod together, but sharing the two pieces, as well as ammunition, among two soldiers is the most reasonable means of transport. The ammunition deserves far more care than the mortar components, which may be trivially interchanged, replaced, or modularized.

The Glass Cannon is not called the Glass Cannon because it is a cannon made of glass, it is called the Glass Cannon because it fires glass projectiles. The renowned glasser and chemist August Eklund, a nobleman of fine reputation, has supplied us with a means of creating glass bombs more devastating and versatile than any conventional explosive projectile. Several hundred years ago, the Prince Rupert, then called an alchemist, discovered a means of creating beautiful glass 'droplets' by dripping molten glass into cold water. These mysterious drops proved to be absurdly durable on their rounded end, but upon the slightest break of their tail end, they would violently explode into glass powder. The Eklund process cools large globs of molten glass within a solution of oil in precisely shaped tubes, creating rounded glass globules with a pointed tip. These globules withstand the hammers of the strongest royal guard, but when their tip is cracked, they fracture explosively, sending glass shards and dust outwards at injurious rates. The force of the explosion itself is potent, but the shards may slice through flesh and bone, and the glass dust released will kill the lungs and stifle machines.

For the sake of our safety and interoperation with the Glass Cannon, the glass shells are transported within neatly forged metal cylinders with a protective wool stuffing to prevent the tip of each shell from coming to harm. A mundane-explosive propellant charge is inserted into the mortar tube, followed by the cylinder containing a glass shell. With the click of a lever at the base of the tube, the propellant is sparked, detonates, launching the tube into the air, where the forces involve will separate its pieces and release the free-flying glass projectile. Upon impact, the tip of the glass shell is broken, and then the internal tension of the shell is released, triggering the explosive reaction upon the point of impact, suffocating the Northern scum with glass dust, slicing them with shards, and crushing them with the explosion.

Aka, what if somebody weaponized Prince Rupert's Drops.
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 2 Design)
« Reply #329 on: October 22, 2023, 12:56:28 am »

I wrote this at 1 am so its gonna be a little rough but it gets the idea across. If the roll turns out super well the slugs are large enough that we could make a less complex version of the Pęknięcie rounds given a larger round means we're not working on such a small scale.

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Piorun Automatic Fowling Piece: Legally identified as an “Automatic Fowling Piece” instead of a machine gun in the gun laws of the Kingdom the Piorun (Thunderbolt) is a marvel of heavy automatic fire. Weighing in at 14 kg and a total of 43 kg with its all metal wheeled mount the Piorun is a heavy beast but the amount of firepower it’s able to send downrange is hoped to alleviate that concern. The key piece of the Piorun’s operation, and its legal troubles, is the 16.5x95mm shell it chambers. In the simplest terms an overcharged and lengthened 16 Gauge shotgun shell the standard cardboard case of most shotgun shells is done away with in favor of a straight walled brass shell coming in three standard color coded loads.
Blue painted shells holding twenty-six .28 caliber lead balls designed to deny as much area as possible when used, and green painted shells with a special cast lead slug in the shape of a hexagon with a pointed tip and boat tail base for accuracy at long range and a small tool steel rod inserted into its core for penetrating any light armor the mass of the 16.5mm lead slug can't simply force itself through. Finally the Red painted shells, having a similar hexagonal slug to the blue shells but instead modified to hold the same style of mercury bursting charge as the GSR's bursting ammunition with the hope of the much larger slug allowing for simpler manufacturing since parts for the bursting system do not have to be as small as previous attempts.

The hexagonal shape of the slugs allow for a large degree of accuracy when fired from the correspondingly hexagonal rifled barrel of the Piorun, the soft nature of the unjacketed lead slug and progressive twist on the rifling from chamber to muzzle allowing the slugs to be loaded and fired without worry of misalignment as they find their grip in the barrel easily. The lack of hard cut grooves in the barrel as well allowing for the buckshot to be fired safely from the same barrel without fear of damaging precious rifling of a normal barrel. The hexagonal rifling giving stability to the slug allowing for accurate long range fire.

Instead of using a complex system of gas operation the designers of the Piorun instead sought to use the vast recoil energies of the shell in its operation. When fired the recoil of the weapon causes the bolt to move backwards ejecting the spent casing and feeding a new one in from the belt fed system. To make use of the ammunition options of the Piorun a metallic belt in segments of 10 are used, the 10th round being used to link the segment to another length of 10 and so on. This allows gunners to keep belts of one or another type of ammo and if need be in a hurry instead of going through a lengthy reloading process either adding on slug, bursting or buckshot segments into the already loaded belt or simply quickly delinking the segment closest to the breech and linking in a pre-linked belt of a few dozen segments of another shell type. Of course its just as valid to load a belt of mixed shells in any given ratio if the situation calls for it. 
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