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Author Topic: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 2 Revision)  (Read 13050 times)

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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Revision)
« Reply #285 on: October 17, 2023, 08:20:29 pm »

Why don't we revise the gun, so we have a harder hitting marksman rifle variant? Should be well within our capabilities, and we might as well see about getting an extra "class" of weaponry started while we don't have seventeen designs to fix.
A major feature of the gun is that it's crudely semiautomatic. I think we'd want an entirely new design for marksman rifles.

Mm, revising ammo gives us something we can use with all our guns, though.
Assuming we want to use revolver ammo for all our designs, yes.
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« Reply #286 on: October 17, 2023, 08:21:58 pm »

As for ammo, well, it's a Jakobs so I'm not sold on elementals.

What?
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Revision)
« Reply #287 on: October 17, 2023, 08:23:42 pm »

It's a Borderlands joke. It's ok, I got it.
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Revision)
« Reply #288 on: October 17, 2023, 10:35:10 pm »

Modèle 1912 "Spitfire" Automatic Rifle
With Monsieur Gryf busy overseeing the scaling up of his rifle's production, one of the other contestants was licensed to make a specialized variant of it.
The most obvious difference is the full length tube magazine, giving the Spitfire an impressive 15+2 rounds it can fire before needing to reload. The spitfire also has a rapid firemode, continuously firing as long as the trigger is held, thus bringing a fraction of the machine gun's potential on the move, in this age of daring maneuver, such a boon is worth its weight in gold, and the house-clearing potential is unmatched. Of course this has its costs, we've had to reinforce the gun to keep up with the rigors of automatic fire, though thankfully the light cartridge has kept this down to a reasonable level. Further, the sheer rate of fire required the development of specialized tube loaders to keep the soldier from spending most of their time reloading, and the long magazine interferes with the bayonet, preventing it from being affixed. This all makes the Spitfire the armament of squad weapon specialists and specialist squads.
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« Reply #289 on: October 17, 2023, 10:42:25 pm »

Modèle 1912 "Spitfire" Automatic Rifle
With Monsieur Gryf busy overseeing the scaling up of his rifle's production, one of the other contestants was licensed to make a specialized variant of it.
The most obvious difference is the full length tube magazine, giving the Spitfire an impressive 15+2 rounds it can fire before needing to reload. The spitfire also has a rapid firemode, continuously firing as long as the trigger is held, thus bringing a fraction of the machine gun's potential on the move, in this age of daring maneuver, such a boon is worth its weight in gold, and the house-clearing potential is unmatched. Of course this has its costs, we've had to reinforce the gun to keep up with the rigors of automatic fire, though thankfully the light cartridge has kept this down to a reasonable level. Further, the sheer rate of fire required the development of specialized tube loaders to keep the soldier from spending most of their time reloading, and the long magazine interferes with the bayonet, preventing it from being affixed. This all makes the Spitfire the armament of squad weapon specialists and specialist squads.

I like it though I question the use of french terms when Gryf is a Polish name and Polish seems to be the theme so far.
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Revision)
« Reply #290 on: October 17, 2023, 11:24:04 pm »

Two reasons, the company I made for the design phase is semi-canon, alongside the rifle submissions. This cements that. Old school kingdoms of this type also tend to be notably multinational in character, so multiple languages isn't eye raising.
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Revision)
« Reply #291 on: October 17, 2023, 11:35:01 pm »

I like it though I question the use of french terms when Gryf is a Polish name and Polish seems to be the theme so far.

I don't really think one design gets to set the theme for the entire game.

In-world, though, of course our kingdom has a wide variety of citizens - our King invites the very best to join us, no matter their origin!

(Unless of course they're Northern bureaucrats)
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« Reply #292 on: October 17, 2023, 11:53:52 pm »

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2 - 'Redbird' Rounds - IronyOwl, Fallacy
5 - Pęknięcie Ammunition - Maxim, TricMagic, force200, TCK, UristMcRiley
1 - Royal Sidearm "Ostrze Wojenne" - Kashyyk
0 - Anthrax Ammunition -
0 - Spiczasty Bullets -
1 - Mle 1912 "Spitfire" Automatic Rifle - m1895
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« Reply #293 on: October 18, 2023, 12:02:04 pm »

Quote from: votebox
2 - 'Redbird' Rounds - IronyOwl, Fallacy
6 - Pęknięcie Ammunition - Maxim, TricMagic, force200, ThanatosRuss,TCK, UristMcRiley
1 - Royal Sidearm "Ostrze Wojenne" - Kashyyk
0 - Anthrax Ammunition -
0 - Spiczasty Bullets -
1 - Mle 1912 "Spitfire" Automatic Rifle - m1895
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Revision)
« Reply #294 on: October 18, 2023, 07:47:47 pm »

Well this seems pretty clear.
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Revision)
« Reply #295 on: October 18, 2023, 08:12:00 pm »

Now we're just waiting on those pen-pushers to finish pushing their pens. Into an early grave, because they're going to be torn apart by semi-semi-automatic exploding bullets soon.
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« Reply #296 on: October 19, 2023, 01:11:31 am »

Now we're just waiting on those pen-pushers to finish pushing their pens. Into an early grave, because they're going to be torn apart by semi-semi-automatic exploding bullets soon.

Well they're certain active judging by their post rate increasing so hopefully they've reached their own voting consensus.
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Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Strategy)
« Reply #297 on: October 19, 2023, 10:51:35 pm »

Preliminary Turn 1 Revision Phase

Proposal: Pęknięcie Ammunition
Difficulty: Very Hard
Result: (3+2)-2=3, Buggy Mess

Pęknięcie Ammunition uses copper-jacketed spitzer shaped bullets to deliver a small payload of mercury fulminate to targets. The internal workings of the rounds are very clever, with tip of the bullet housing a spring that uses the rod's forward momentum to propel it backward into the explosive when the round strikes the target. The fulminated mercury charge is large enough to fragment the bullet's jacket, causing some damage from the explosion itself with the majority of post-impact injury resulting from shrapnel, and minimal (but not zero) risk of collateral damage. There is a brief delay between impact and detonation, allowing the round to penetrate targets briefly to maximize damage from the explosion.

Unfortunately, Pęknięcie Ammunition is very complicated to produce. The detonator rod tension springs need to be calibrated perfectly in order to keep the rods in position and the mercury fulminate unexploded until the desired time. In conjunction with the abundance of caution required when working with mercury fulminate, production of Pęknięcie Ammunition is almost too intensive both financially and in man-hours to provide at a level the Royal Army could appreciate at this point.

While otherwise perfectly fine and surprisingly stable, Pęknięcie Ammunition is currently so difficult to produce in large numbers that it will be a National Effort until the bullet is modified or industry augmented. This means a single soldier will be equipped with the exploding bullets for now.

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It is now the Strategy Phase. In this phase you will be voting for two lanes (West, Center, East) to attack along. You will also choose which lanes to deploy your various National Efforts. While control of territory won't be changing in the Preliminary Turns, for practice and consistency (especially since you have a National Effort to practice with potentially for the only time in the prelims) I've decided that we will be voting strategies.

This means that, when you break it down, you have THREE votes right now:

Two for lanes to attack.
One for lane to deploy Pęknięcie Ammunition.

You cannot vote to attack the same lane twice.

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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Strategy)
« Reply #298 on: October 19, 2023, 10:59:22 pm »

I don't know where the spring came from but okay, it was always meant to be a friction fit where the impact drove the rod backwards. I guess if we really wanted to we could revise it to be part of the jacket itself so there's no way for it to be complex.

Anyways I'm thinking East and West Plains, and deploy the PA to an elite marksman in the East to target enemy officers of high caliber.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2023, 11:01:12 pm by Maxim_inc »
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Re: Greatest War Southern Star Thread - Spring 1912 (Prelim 1 Strategy)
« Reply #299 on: October 19, 2023, 10:59:52 pm »

Okay well that one soldier is still gonna be pretty terrifying!

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Attack
0 - East
1 - Middle - IronyOwl
1 - West - IronyOwl

Deploy Pęknięcie
0 - East
0 - Middle
1 - West - IronyOwl
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