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[TricMagic]

Question: would you rather be lynched over Toony?

No.  Unlike myself, I am not 100% confident of Toony's alignment.

Do you trust Elephant then? Or me for that matter?

I don't believe either one of you is mafia, but trust isn't what I'd call that.

If you can't trust your own reads on people, who can you trust? That's not conductive to lynching if you don't even have a single townread.

[Maximum Spin]

I honestly think that sofanthiel is just a newbie not avoiding questions cause they're scum.

I don't know why Crystal is seeing this and not Hector or Max.

I'm not even talking about him avoiding questions. I avoid questions. I'm talking about him fucking around. There's a non-directedness and unwillingness to do better that isn't, in and of itself, AI, but doesn't look good and I need to make it stop one way or the other.
It's similar to what I've voted Knightwing for before on multiple occasions.

[Snowkiller]

Translation: hector13 cannot read, and so blames others. I'm not sure why you being unable to read something that was previously posted makes me mafia, but I figure that's your deal and continue on.

[Elephant Parade]

I honestly think that sofanthiel is just a newbie not avoiding questions cause they're scum.

You’re a newbie. You came into the game with basically zero knowledge of how to play, but you’re offering up your opinions and justifications for them. Why can’t sofanthiel and Snowkiller?

This is mostly coming from my gut, but Crystallizedmire's posts have felt like word vomit thrown out just to have something there, not serious attempts at reasoning. I respect him for actually playing the game, but he doesn't read as town to me.

Translation: hector13 cannot read, and so blames others. I'm not sure why you being unable to read something that was previously posted makes me mafia, but I figure that's your deal and continue on.

I still don't find you particularly scummy, but you should really, really put some content out there if you don't want to be lynched for being useless! What are your reads? Who would you vote right now if No Lynch wasn't an option, and why?

[sofanthiel]

I'm talking about him fucking around. There's a non-directedness and unwillingness to do better that isn't, in and of itself, AI, but doesn't look good and I need to make it stop one way or the other.

Can you please elaborate?  I'm confused by this.  I do throw in the occasional joke, yes, but I fail to see how all I do is just fuck around.

[hector13]

Translation: hector13 cannot read, and so blames others. I'm not sure why you being unable to read something that was previously posted makes me mafia, but I figure that's your deal and continue on.

If you want to make things more abrasive I’m quite willing to drop the politeness if you want?

What am I not reading? That you suspect MaxSpin? Because you’ve posted seven times in the game, and put shade on one person, and done nothing with that.

If you’re town, the only way you win is by lynching scum. How do you intend to contribute to that?

[sofanthiel]

Unvote

for now, that is.

[hector13]

Would you like to tell us why, considering there are four hours to day end and you should really be solidifying cases around this point?

[Maximum Spin]

I'm talking about him fucking around. There's a non-directedness and unwillingness to do better that isn't, in and of itself, AI, but doesn't look good and I need to make it stop one way or the other.

Can you please elaborate?  I'm confused by this.  I do throw in the occasional joke, yes, but I fail to see how all I do is just fuck around.

It's not about jokes either. What I mean is that you feel like you're talking just to talk. Not too different from what EP said about Cryer, which I *also* agree with, and it's why I was going to vote Cryer earlier after TricMagic.
Maybe you don't feel the same. I understand that. You probably wouldn't INTEND to seem that way. But why haven't you actually done anything?

[Snowkiller]

Translation: hector13 cannot read, and so blames others. I'm not sure why you being unable to read something that was previously posted makes me mafia, but I figure that's your deal and continue on.

If you want to make things more abrasive I’m quite willing to drop the politeness if you want?

What am I not reading? That you suspect MaxSpin? Because you’ve posted seven times in the game, and put shade on one person, and done nothing with that.

If you’re town, the only way you win is by lynching scum. How do you intend to contribute to that?

I could redirect my suspicion from Maximum Spin towards you, if that will help. I don't know--you let me know what it is you'd like to do.

[Crystalizedmire]

Translation: hector13 cannot read, and so blames others. I'm not sure why you being unable to read something that was previously posted makes me mafia, but I figure that's your deal and continue on.

could please name specific examples?

[Elephant Parade]

@Snowkiller: If you don't answer people's questions and engage substantively with the game, you will likely be lynched today, which is bad for you regardless of what your alignment is. Despite everything, I still think you're town and would rather not see that happen. Here's an easy question: Do you think Hector is scum? If so, why aren't you voting them? If not, what do you think they're trying to accomplish?

[hector13]

I honestly don’t care at this point. I think you’ll be able to get a certain three votes, maybe even as many as five people to go along with you if you do change your vote, maybe even without providing a good reason for it too.

That just means I don’t have to deal with this anymore, because even if you and/or sofanthiel aren’t scum, they’re not going to kill you, so I’ll have to deal with the survivor on D2, which is not a happy thought.

[TricMagic]

I honestly think that sofanthiel is just a newbie not avoiding questions cause they're scum.

You’re a newbie. You came into the game with basically zero knowledge of how to play, but you’re offering up your opinions and justifications for them. Why can’t sofanthiel and Snowkiller?

This is mostly coming from my gut, but Crystallizedmire's posts have felt like word vomit thrown out just to have something there, not serious attempts at reasoning. I respect him for actually playing the game, but he doesn't read as town to me.

Translation: hector13 cannot read, and so blames others. I'm not sure why you being unable to read something that was previously posted makes me mafia, but I figure that's your deal and continue on.

I still don't find you particularly scummy, but you should really, really put some content out there if you don't want to be lynched for being useless! What are your reads? Who would you vote right now if No Lynch wasn't an option, and why?

Hey, Elephant. Who was it that actually responded to my little bait? Being on the sidelines watching and commenting is not conductive to hunting. I'm aware I'm doing it, but this is called throwing shade.

[Caz]

Jeez what pages full of mud. I'm unsure of Toony now, so here we go.


Crystal/Snowkiller/sofanthiel are the newbies, or at least I haven't played with them. They all look sketchy to me, and I ordered them in town->scum (I usually do this in some sort of order, figure it out if you want), but I don't really want to lynch a newb just because it is too easy to get a bandwagon going on something that had nothing behind it. Not playing to standard, making silly mistakes, whatever. They also talked less than others, so it's worth less. But that doesn't mean we should infolynch like Tric said either.

Out of Toony/hector/Tric/Max, I posit Maximum Spin to have given the least content and effort out of all the experienced players.

It's not about jokes either. What I mean is that you feel like you're talking just to talk. Not too different from what EP said about Cryer, which I *also* agree with, and it's why I was going to vote Cryer earlier after TricMagic.
Maybe you don't feel the same. I understand that. You probably wouldn't INTEND to seem that way. But why haven't you actually done anything?

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I'll be more interested in Max after D1 if they're around. I'm sure he feels the same about me.

If I'm still around d2, I'll think it isn't you, honestly.

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Sofanthiel has constantly been a part of this game.

What do I even need to show

literally

read the thread

It just feels like he's been fucking around. I'm pretty sure that's what hector's thinking too.
I'd rather vote out Snowkiller, to be sure, but this is the way things stand right now. I'm not AGAINST it by any stretch.

A lot of ‘feelings’ and assuming/projecting what others think, and not even a clear decision at the end. It seems like you don’t really care who gets lynched, as long as it isn’t you. You move from Crystal to Tric to Snowkiller. After the accusations the posts drop off to single comments. Looking back to your banter with Hector it seems like all you have done all game. Just trying to ease out of sight or something. Can you guys see what I see?