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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2023, 12:26:31 pm »


So. To put that in an easily parsable format:

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Spend 400 Resources to Build 4,000 Resource Extraction on Ushevan
Put the 8 units of Light Weaponry in Storage and replace with 8 units of Heavy Weapons (800 resources). Then build 10 units of Carapace Armour and 10 units of Recon Vehicles for 2,000 Resources, upgrading our Heavy Infantry to Mechanized and Carapace Armoured.

Then, form two task forces:
Taskforce Ahrsa
 - 125 Rad Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 125 Heavy Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 5 Ushevan Regiments (1 Trained Militia, 4 Basic Militia)
 - 1 Titan Legion
 - 3 Cobra Destroyers
 - 5 Sword-class Frigates
 - 2 Falchion-class Frigates
 - 5 Firestorm-class Frigates
 - 2 Lunar-Class Cruisers

Taskforce Bairkan
 - 125 Rad Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 125 Heavy Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 5 Ushevan Regiments (1 Trained Militia, 4 Basic Militia)
 - 3 Cobra Destroyers
 - 4 Sword-class Frigates
 - 3 Falchion-class Frigates
 - 4 Firestorm-class Frigates
 - 1 Lunar-class Cruiser


Send Taskforce Ahrsa to the Xephenus system. Their Orbital presence is minor, and should be easily dealt with. Xephenus I is likely to capitulate the moment we neutralise the Orbital Platform. Xephenus VI might need some additional encouragement, hence the Titans and slightly larger complement of ships.

Meanwhile, send Taskforce Bairkan to the Ganars system. The single colonised planet there will hopefully surrender when offered the choice of Orbital bombardment vs a life where people are not executed at random.

That’s a lot of logistic stuff for me, so I’m just going to say I like the idea and add a +1 to it
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2023, 12:47:30 pm »


So. To put that in an easily parsable format:

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Spend 400 Resources to Build 4,000 Resource Extraction on Ushevan
Put the 8 units of Light Weaponry in Storage and replace with 8 units of Heavy Weapons (800 resources). Then build 10 units of Carapace Armour and 10 units of Recon Vehicles for 2,000 Resources, upgrading our Heavy Infantry to Mechanized and Carapace Armoured.

Then, form two task forces:
Taskforce Ahrsa
 - 125 Rad Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 125 Heavy Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 5 Ushevan Regiments (1 Trained Militia, 4 Basic Militia)
 - 1 Titan Legion
 - 3 Cobra Destroyers
 - 5 Sword-class Frigates
 - 2 Falchion-class Frigates
 - 5 Firestorm-class Frigates
 - 2 Lunar-Class Cruisers

Taskforce Bairkan
 - 125 Rad Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 125 Heavy Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 5 Ushevan Regiments (1 Trained Militia, 4 Basic Militia)
 - 3 Cobra Destroyers
 - 4 Sword-class Frigates
 - 3 Falchion-class Frigates
 - 4 Firestorm-class Frigates
 - 1 Lunar-class Cruiser


Send Taskforce Ahrsa to the Xephenus system. Their Orbital presence is minor, and should be easily dealt with. Xephenus I is likely to capitulate the moment we neutralise the Orbital Platform. Xephenus VI might need some additional encouragement, hence the Titans and slightly larger complement of ships.

Meanwhile, send Taskforce Bairkan to the Ganars system. The single colonised planet there will hopefully surrender when offered the choice of Orbital bombardment vs a life where people are not executed at random.

That’s a lot of logistic stuff for me, so I’m just going to say I like the idea and add a +1 to it
+1
+1!
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« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2023, 01:33:30 pm »

+1 Kashyyk’s plan as well.
So. To put that in an easily parsable format:
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Spend 400 Resources to Build 4,000 Resource Extraction on Ushevan
Put the 8 units of Light Weaponry in Storage and replace with 8 units of Heavy Weapons (800 resources). Then build 10 units of Carapace Armour and 10 units of Recon Vehicles for 2,000 Resources, upgrading our Heavy Infantry to Mechanized and Carapace Armoured.
Then, form two task forces:
Taskforce Ahrsa
 - 125 Rad Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 125 Heavy Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 5 Ushevan Regiments (1 Trained Militia, 4 Basic Militia)
 - 1 Titan Legion
 - 3 Cobra Destroyers
 - 5 Sword-class Frigates
 - 2 Falchion-class Frigates
 - 5 Firestorm-class Frigates
 - 2 Lunar-Class Cruisers
Taskforce Bairkan
 - 125 Rad Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 125 Heavy Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 5 Ushevan Regiments (1 Trained Militia, 4 Basic Militia)
 - 3 Cobra Destroyers
 - 4 Sword-class Frigates
 - 3 Falchion-class Frigates
 - 4 Firestorm-class Frigates
 - 1 Lunar-class Cruiser

Send Taskforce Ahrsa to the Xephenus system. Their Orbital presence is minor, and should be easily dealt with. Xephenus I is likely to capitulate the moment we neutralise the Orbital Platform. Xephenus VI might need some additional encouragement, hence the Titans and slightly larger complement of ships.
Meanwhile, send Taskforce Bairkan to the Ganars system. The single colonised planet there will hopefully surrender when offered the choice of Orbital bombardment vs a life where people are not executed at random.
That’s a lot of logistic stuff for me, so I’m just going to say I like the idea and add a +1 to it
+1
+1!

Ushevan's current mineral and production capacity is unacceptable for a war-footing, especially this close to a Forge World. By the God Emperor, you will see it remade into the grandest stepping stone the Segmentum Pacificus has ever seen. Once, a forgotten colonial rock, soon, a thriving center of Meritocracy! At your command, 8,000 Resources are set aside for maximising Ushevan's Resource Extraction and Industrial Output. The work begins immediately, though it will take years, the fight for promotion by excellence rather than family will be the struggle of generations. If you have your way.

Next, you decide to refit the Ushevan forces as well as possible. They are only a handful next to the massed Skitarii of Euclite but they are where the uprising began and they will lead the way. The Imperium outnumbers you millions to one, so your one must be as well-armed as possible. At your command, the Light Weapons of the militants are stored on Ushevan and the production of enough Heavy Weapons, Carapace Armour, and transport vehicles to supply the entirety of Ushevan's forces begins, for a combined 2,667 Resources (8 Heavy Weapons discounted from 800 due to specialisation). As Euclite is used to supplying the needs of hundreds, if not thousands of regiments, it requires only a month, during which the publicised noble trials begin and you plan.

You must make the most of your localised naval strength and cover as much ground as possible. To that end, you'll divide your forces into two groups, Taskforce Arsha and Taskforce Bairkan, as listed below for ease of record-keeping.

Quote from: Taskforce Ahrsa
- 125 Rad Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 125 Heavy Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 5 Ushevan Regiments (1 Trained Militia, 4 Basic Militia)
 - 1 Titan Legion
 - 3 Cobra Destroyers
 - 5 Sword-class Frigates
 - 2 Falchion-class Frigates
 - 5 Firestorm-class Frigates
 - 2 Lunar-Class Cruisers

Quote from: Taskforce Bairkan
- 125 Rad Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 125 Heavy Weapon Skitarii Regiments
 - 5 Ushevan Regiments (1 Trained Militia, 4 Basic Militia)
 - 3 Cobra Destroyers
 - 4 Sword-class Frigates
 - 3 Falchion-class Frigates
 - 4 Firestorm-class Frigates
 - 1 Lunar-class Cruiser

Taskforce Arsha shall be sent to the Xephenus system, where it will crush the Loyalists of Xephenus VI or better yet, convince them to lay down their arms. Xephenus I is likely to surrender immediately on neutralising the orbital platform, and its mines will be critical to the rebellion's success. After that, perhaps it will go to Ophus and then to Sebaustia, but this is less immediate.

Taskforce Bairkan shall be sent to the Ganars system, where it will use the threat, and possibly the force, of orbital bombardment to bring their Planetary Governor, or failing that, the masses to capitulate. Their practice of random, ritual sacrifice goes against every part of Meritocracy and must be brought to an end. After that, perhaps it will continue on to Lendypso and then to Rana's Pearl, but again, this is farther in the future and you'll decide then.

You consider the incredible gulf between systems and that indoctrinated, if pious, Astropaths can't be trusted to consistently relay accurate messages. You aren't able to be everywhere at once, so, like with the rebellion, you have little choice but to delegate to those you believe you can trust. Most of them commanders you fought with and can trust are loyal and have at least the bare minimum of competence, the only differences being their methodology. The last is from Euclite and you can be confident is at the very least adequate.

Who should be in charge of Taskforce Ahrsa and Taskforce Bairkan? You can only command one of the two. At your discretion, you could also choose to stay in Ushevan and leave both Taskforces to different commanders.

If desired, you could assign one the position of planetary administrator over Ushevan, though you haven't worked out the titles or precisely how your government works yet. If there is no planetary administrator, societal decisions will wait until you can oversee them in person. If there is, they'll default to a mix of their personality and what they think you would choose in their stead.


Matthias Patrias: An ancient man approaching his sixtieth Terran summer. He was originally a clerk for the colonial government before he silently joined the movement and used his position to reroute and fabricate several key documents for your sake. Friendly and approachable, with a Balanced approach to tactics and an almost uncanny luck.
Tycho Abigantus: A quiet former bricklayer, who keeps his grooming immaculate and you've never once known to raise his voice in anger. He is also one of the deadliest militants of the rebellion with a confirmed personal kill count of twenty-six. To your experience, he has an Aggressive approach to tactics and prefers nonviolent means of victory where possible, with some leeway in what he considers nonviolence.
Signe McGaffee: An older medicae who joined the movement out of disgust for the Imperium's inefficiencies and insists on rigid professionalism. She has little direct combat experience but has seen and stopped many deaths through her brilliant expertise, though she has a semi-hidden vice for gambling. As far as she's advised you, you know she has a Cautious approach to tactics and prefers multilayered plans.
Avidius Cassius: A promising militant who rapidly rose to the ill-defined rank of squad leader, and then to a leader of squad leaders despite his relative youth. An excellent shot and former farmer, since he's learned to read he's studied constantly and is fanatically committed to the cause of Meritocracy. In previous engagements, he's had an Aggressive approach to tactics and an extreme hesitance to risk civilian casualties, even in the heat of battle.
Hosch Gelimen: A mostly cybernetic Magos Logi, seconded to the Vox Meritum as a gesture of goodwill by Euclite. He is deeply immersed in his interpretation of probabilities and something a pessimist in regards to your chances of success. You are informed he has a Defensive approach to tactics and doesn't like to press the attack until victory is a near-certainty, although he's never decisively lost in the simulations.
Laertes Vaaric: An experienced, competent militant and incidentally your own cousin. He's zealously embraced the idea of Meritocracy and constantly insists that his men try their best to one-up and replace him. In combat, he has a Reckless approach to tactics and only cares about maximizing damage dealt with minimal regard for his own safety.
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2023, 01:39:37 pm »

The ignition of our war must be done with absolute haste.

Thus, I think, that we should opt for having the war-fleets be staffed by our finest generals while we continue to lead the people. This should probably change as soon as we come to face something bigger than a speedbump.

Tycho Abigantus to Taskforce Bairkan. We've got a chance of having a first step being not so violent by some definitions, and this is obviously the best one to park this guy at.
Avidius Cassius to Taskforce Ahrsa. Extremely militant Militants miltiarize to militant outcomes. Obviously the best out come.
We, us, whatever stay at Ushevan
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2023, 01:56:02 pm »

The ignition of our war must be done with absolute haste.

Thus, I think, that we should opt for having the war-fleets be staffed by our finest generals while we continue to lead the people. This should probably change as soon as we come to face something bigger than a speedbump.

Tycho Abigantus to Taskforce Bairkan. We've got a chance of having a first step being not so violent by some definitions, and this is obviously the best one to park this guy at.
Avidius Cassius to Taskforce Ahrsa. Extremely militant Militants miltiarize to militant outcomes. Obviously the best out come.
We, us, whatever stay at Ushevan
This sounds good to me. Both Commanders will hopefully be able to secure their target systems with a minimum of losses
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2023, 02:01:53 pm »

I more or less chose aggressive leaders to shave time off the acquisition lead on the conquest of the worlds surrounding us, which I think is a worthy sacrifice, even if we lose people or guns.
Most of our ability is tied up in void assets, so it might be wise to run forward with the fleet after the initial smash, hitting additional worlds while our ground assets "catch up".
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« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2023, 02:23:46 pm »

The ignition of our war must be done with absolute haste.

Thus, I think, that we should opt for having the war-fleets be staffed by our finest generals while we continue to lead the people. This should probably change as soon as we come to face something bigger than a speedbump.

Tycho Abigantus to Taskforce Bairkan. We've got a chance of having a first step being not so violent by some definitions, and this is obviously the best one to park this guy at.
Avidius Cassius to Taskforce Ahrsa. Extremely militant Militants miltiarize to militant outcomes. Obviously the best out come.
We, us, whatever stay at Ushevan
This sounds good to me. Both Commanders will hopefully be able to secure their target systems with a minimum of losses

+1!
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« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2023, 04:37:00 pm »

The ignition of our war must be done with absolute haste.

Thus, I think, that we should opt for having the war-fleets be staffed by our finest generals while we continue to lead the people. This should probably change as soon as we come to face something bigger than a speedbump.

Tycho Abigantus to Taskforce Bairkan. We've got a chance of having a first step being not so violent by some definitions, and this is obviously the best one to park this guy at.
Avidius Cassius to Taskforce Ahrsa. Extremely militant Militants miltiarize to militant outcomes. Obviously the best out come.
We, us, whatever stay at Ushevan
This sounds good to me. Both Commanders will hopefully be able to secure their target systems with a minimum of losses

+1!
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2023, 05:09:03 pm »

The ignition of our war must be done with absolute haste.

Thus, I think, that we should opt for having the war-fleets be staffed by our finest generals while we continue to lead the people. This should probably change as soon as we come to face something bigger than a speedbump.

Tycho Abigantus to Taskforce Bairkan. We've got a chance of having a first step being not so violent by some definitions, and this is obviously the best one to park this guy at.
Avidius Cassius to Taskforce Ahrsa. Extremely militant Militants miltiarize to militant outcomes. Obviously the best out come.
We, us, whatever stay at Ushevan
This sounds good to me. Both Commanders will hopefully be able to secure their target systems with a minimum of losses

+1!
+1
Believe it or not +1!
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« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2023, 06:43:20 pm »

The ignition of our war must be done with absolute haste.
Thus, I think, that we should opt for having the war-fleets be staffed by our finest generals while we continue to lead the people. This should probably change as soon as we come to face something bigger than a speedbump.
Tycho Abigantus to Taskforce Bairkan. We've got a chance of having a first step being not so violent by some definitions, and this is obviously the best one to park this guy at.
Avidius Cassius to Taskforce Ahrsa. Extremely militant Militants miltiarize to militant outcomes. Obviously the best out come.
We, us, whatever stay at Ushevan
This sounds good to me. Both Commanders will hopefully be able to secure their target systems with a minimum of losses
+1!
+1
Believe it or not +1!
After some time analysing the military situation, you decide that it would be best for you to administrate Ushevan in its critical formative years and send your most competent militant commanders to lead in your stead. That is the core of Meritocracy, the crux of the Vox Meritum's new, secular doctrine! You assign Avidius Cassius to Taskforce Ahrsa on its mission to the Xephenus system and Tycho Abigantus to Taskforce Bairkan on its mission to the Ganars system. Their commands are simple: rapid, aggressive conquest by any means they see fit. The populace of the planets themselves must be brought into the fold but they are not to waste any time. You send them off with a single phrase that will be oft-repeated in the future of the Euclite Subsector's conquest.

"The ignition of our war must be done with absolute haste."

Given that you aren't able to command them immediately and if all goes well will only hear how their campaigns went from the Vox Meritum freighter crews months, if not years afterward, they need to have a plan for what to do after their designated systems are claimed. The probabilities of taking major losses with local void supremacy are slim, but any vessels too damaged to risk fighting will limp back to Euclite's foundries on their own.

What are their orders for the future?

Return to Euclite to Debrief: Here, they can give you firsthand accounts and rally into a singular armada. There is some concern of losing a portion of the initiative but transparency is key to an orderly campaign.
Regroup at Ganars and Continue In Force: It is critical that your fleet isn't divided early on while you have the momentum. Separated, there is a small chance one of the Loyalists could pull off a strategic miracle.
Remain Divided and Press On: They'll seize the system following their earlier routes. Taskforce Ahrsa to Xephenus, Ophus, and Sebaustia. Taskforce Bairkan to Ganars, Lendypso, and Rana's Pearl. You are confident in your chosen admirals and the Subsector's bounty needs to be funneled back into Euclite's forges as rapidly as possible.

After that is done, you turn your attention to the business of administrating the planet you seized in glorious revolution. The long, tedious, and dull business that you, tragically, happen to be most suited for. It's good that part of you enjoys the work. Slowly but surely, one year passes.

1 Year Since Rebellion (YSR)

The opening shots of your war for independence have been fired and sitting in your office, you have no idea how they went. Rather than anxious, you are exhilirated. Examining the current costs of your movement, you hope that the conquest of Xephenus I went well at the least.

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Spoiler: Vox Meritum Production (click to show/hide)

However extreme the Vox Meritum's logistical demands may be, you note with pride that Ushevan's domestic industry has more than doubled under your efficient rule. Yet more potential remains to be realised. Ushevan's mining and production may be a small contribution to the whole, but it will be the best it can be. Such industry exhilirates you, but there are other matters of import that need to be attended to. There are three, arguably four, on the annual docket. For maximum efficiency, they will be brought to you and your advisors one at a time.

The rebellion in Ushevan was a blow against the bloated and cruel Imperium, driven by generations of hardship under unqualified tyrants. It was only the beginning of your glorious struggle, but the Vox Meritum has outgrown its original planet and there has been some discussion on the rebellion claiming its own distinct identity. As a violent uprising, that starts with the armed forces.

How should the Vox Meritum's military, both void and ground, be organised? (For the most part, this is just fluff but radical changes for the better or the worse may see small differences in outcome for your forces. While we're at it, would you prefer me to keep the broad Navy/Military split, or record everything under which Taskforce it's in?)

Copy the Imperium: It has worked for thousands of years and your struggle isn't with the Imperium's ranking system. It's with who's filling the ranks. Arguably boring but efficient, and may even earn a brief pang of sympathy from the future armies sent to stomp your rebellion into the dust.
Switch the Names: If the Vox Meritum is to be a new path for Mankind, it must have a new aesthetic, but you can't depart from centuries of tried and proven functionality. It's the best of both worlds, all of the old organisation with all new words for the same things.
Try Something New: If the Imperium's ancient system has led to its current state, it must be done away with. You will determine new squad formations, new titles, possibly even new tactical doctrine. This doesn't need to be absolute or all at once, but you can get creative with it, especially with Euclite's industrial support.
Copy the Mechanicus: Euclite is doing well enough and its Skitarii are fearsome. You'll take inspiration from them and shift your regiments to take on Skitarii organisation methods, even if your men's fleshy bodies and emotional minds aren't capable of replicating their lockstep fanaticism. Euclite might be flattered or disquieted but you doubt this will change your working relationship.
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« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2023, 07:08:00 pm »

Regroup at Ganars and Continue In Force

Copy the Mechanicus.
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2023, 07:12:20 pm »

Remain Divided and Press On We must not give up the initiative so soon!

As for the other stuff frankly I got no qualms with copying the imperiums stuff although id prefer our own thing thats built in a way to directly counter how the imperium divides things I aint knowledgeable in that though so ill give some time for people to think on that (I think copying the Mechanicus military organization is not a good idea though)
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« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2023, 08:28:53 pm »

(I think copying the Mechanicus military organization is idiotic though)
That wasn't nice of you to say. :'(

Like genuinely, that was uncalled for.
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2023, 08:54:49 pm »

Regroup at Ganars and Continue in force
Try Something new Definitely should make it to counter the Imperium since that's all we're fighting.

Also Fluffe, that was pretty rude
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« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2023, 10:57:29 pm »

That wasn't nice of you to say. :'(

Like genuinely, that was uncalled for.
Yeah your right completely uncalled for didn't mean to offend sorry.
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