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Maxine

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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2023, 06:55:03 pm »

Operth V. They sound the most fun, fluff wise.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2023, 07:29:01 pm »

The Forest Moon of . . . I mean Yanralea.
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2023, 07:43:17 pm »

I see you guys have chosen no death and no glory. Well Enos III seems cool.
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2023, 08:40:55 pm »

Ushevan
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Agree, plus that's about the LAST thing *I* want to see from this kind of game - author spending valuable development time on useless graphics.

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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2023, 12:02:36 am »

Ushevan Only guys with a actual ideological motive for rebellion rather than as a matter of survival or just being oppressed a bit too hard

(Except for Operth V I guess but those guys just seem like a buncha psychos)

+1 to Ushevan. Having an actual ideology will make it much easier to spread the rebellion. All the other planets' casus belli seem pretty particular to themselves.
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2023, 01:00:49 am »

Ushevan Only guys with a actual ideological motive for rebellion rather than as a matter of survival or just being oppressed a bit too hard

(Except for Operth V I guess but those guys just seem like a buncha psychos)

+1 to Ushevan. Having an actual ideology will make it much easier to spread the rebellion. All the other planets' casus belli seem pretty particular to themselves.
Ushevan

The rebellion began in Ushevan to great fanfare among the hard-bitten frontiersmen whose fathers and grandfathers first set foot on their desolate world. Generations ago, they considered the planet to be a fresh start for the Imperium and today, the gathered Secessionist leadership could not agree more. You are the foremost of the assembled men and women here, it was your tongue that gathered the fuel of doubt, your vision that lit the fires of rebellion, and your cunning that kept that flame from being extinguished in its infancy. The others fought or schemed, where you spoke, and in the end, it was your voice that cast the Planetary Governor from his petty throne. You've earned the absolute respect of your inner circle and many of them consider you the father of their rebellion, but you know that the struggle for independence has only just begun.

What is your name? (You can describe the Common Demagogue's appearance and mannerisms as well, if you'd like. He'll be your viewpoint character for the rest of his lifespan, outside of exceptional circumstances or a change in the rebellion's leadership.)

You lean back in your chair, close your eyes, and think of how you came to be here. You think of years spent tilling hard soil for meager returns, years of thinking without care for doctrine, and years of carefully planning how you were going to seize control. The war was decided before the first lasbolt was shot. Even if the Forge World Euclite hadn't sent word from the outer system of their support and put meltaguns and krak grenades in your men's eager hands, you would have rebelled. They only guaranteed your victory, and you are forever grateful for that. The Fabricator-Locum Iotapianus Falasco was sent to represent his planet on the Fabricator-General's behalf and has a place of honour here. All of the Euclite Mechanicus do. You believe you could have made the first step without them, but making strides through the Sector would have been impossible. With their industrial support, now anything is possible. You think of the driving force behind the Ushevan philosophy. Its start was rocky and slow but when the rumours caught on despite the overseers' best efforts, they spread with incredible speed.

At its core was a single, groundbreaking idea that went against everything the Imperium stands for. (You can suggest another if you like, as long as it contradicts the Imperium's fundamental worldview. This is the initial core tenet of what will likely become a more complicated ideology if the rebellion survives long enough.)

Meritocracy: The idea that only those with clear, demonstrated skill should hold power.
Fairness: The idea that institutions should be unbiased and accountable for their actions.
Equality: The idea that none are inherently inferior or superior, no matter their status.
Freedom: The idea that the people should act as they will, without higher restriction.
Atheism: The idea that no higher power has the right to dictate how the people live.
Pacifism: The idea that war is not glorious and should only be fought to bring peace.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2023, 01:02:47 am by Ardent Debater »
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2023, 01:37:39 am »

We are Ignatius Vaaric, representative of the Common folk of Ushevan. Of average height, average build, and sandy brown hair, we are the classic picture of an imperial citizen.

We believe in Meritocracy. No longer will incompetent scions of inbred houses rule us. Those who rise to power will have earned every Iota of power, respect and worship they receive, whilst those left to scratch the dirt do so because they are not capable of anything more.
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2023, 01:45:09 am »

Might as well start off with Meritocracy. I mean, we could give peace a chance, but uh, nah I'm good.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2023, 06:50:02 am »

We are Ignatius Vaaric, representative of the Common folk of Ushevan. Of average height, average build, and sandy brown hair, we are the classic picture of an imperial citizen.

We believe in Meritocracy. No longer will incompetent scions of inbred houses rule us. Those who rise to power will have earned every Iota of power, respect and worship they receive, whilst those left to scratch the dirt do so because they are not capable of anything more.

+1!
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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2023, 07:10:58 am »

We are Ignatius Vaaric, representative of the Common folk of Ushevan. Of average height, average build, and sandy brown hair, we are the classic picture of an imperial citizen.

We believe in Meritocracy. No longer will incompetent scions of inbred houses rule us. Those who rise to power will have earned every Iota of power, respect and worship they receive, whilst those left to scratch the dirt do so because they are not capable of anything more.

+1!
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2023, 10:09:06 am »


We are Ignatius Vaaric, representative of the Common folk of Ushevan. Of average height, average build, and sandy brown hair, we are the classic picture of an imperial citizen.

We believe in Meritocracy. No longer will incompetent scions of inbred houses rule us. Those who rise to power will have earned every Iota of power, respect and worship they receive, whilst those left to scratch the dirt do so because they are not capable of anything more.

+1
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Agree, plus that's about the LAST thing *I* want to see from this kind of game - author spending valuable development time on useless graphics.

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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2023, 12:29:44 pm »

We are Ignatius Vaaric, representative of the Common folk of Ushevan. Of average height, average build, and sandy brown hair, we are the classic picture of an imperial citizen.

We believe in Meritocracy. No longer will incompetent scions of inbred houses rule us. Those who rise to power will have earned every Iota of power, respect and worship they receive, whilst those left to scratch the dirt do so because they are not capable of anything more.

+1!
Yeah, I’ll give this a +1.
+1

You are Ignatius Vaaric and your movement was founded on the idea of Meritocracy. No longer will millions of brilliant, capable men languish under the whims of an incompetent few, whose only claim to the right to rule is that they were born to more of the same. It is your sincerest belief that authority should not be a blood lottery, it should be earned! The Euclite Mechanicus found this perspective sympathetic, as it reflects their own. Their forges would've been turned to your aid no matter your ideology but it reassures them that you are of one accord.

The victory over Ushevan has been won and this system is yours, as well as what was once a battlegroup under the Imperial Navy. You will need to strike out at the Imperium and free the multitudes from noble tyranny soon, but there are several key issues that must be resolved before you begin to make your battle plans. First is the matter of what to do with the surviving nobility of Ushevan. There are many thousands of them, who have surrendered and are now rightfully terrified for their lives. As Ushevan is only a colony, the gulf between the average citizen and the average aristocrat is narrower than in more established worlds, but it is there, as is their unearned arrogance.

In the end, your decision is to...

Hold them for ransom: The Sector nobility is wealthy and these nobles, though lesser, have valuable connections. You'll hold them in comfortable conditions and sell them back to their families in the future. It's likely this will be unpopular with your men but it will prove to the nobility that your movement isn't completely lacking civility.
Strip them of their titles: There is no better response to unearned privileges than to remove them. From here on out, these nobles will be no better than anyone else, and will work for a living or starve. This is perhaps the most humane choice and solidifies the movement's commitment to pure meritocracy, though it does leave some minor loose ends.
Quietly execute them: No muss, no fuss, and no need to make a spectacle of ghastly but necessary work. You'll have them quickly and painlessly executed in private. The idea of nobility is obsolete, the people need to move forward and the best way to do that is to ensure former nobles are forgotten.
Make an example: These few are the purest representation of the Imperium's iron-fisted rule and are anathema to your cause. At your command, they will be paraded through the streets and executed in as public and painful a fashion as possible. This is certain to improve morale but it will burn bridges with the Sector's nobility.

When the fate of the Ushevan nobility has been decided, a less urgent but no less significant matter is mentioned. The God Emperor on Terra. More specifically, the movement's official stance toward the Imperial Cult. Our philosophy of how authority should be assigned does not require faith to function and the people of Ushevan are quite willing to follow your lead, but religion is incredibly important to off-worlders. You've spent much time thinking of it and need no more to decide.

What is the rebellion's official stance on the Imperial Cult?

The rebellion is in support of the Imperial Cult: Some parts of the Ecclessiarchy may be corrupt, but it is Terra you march against, not the Throne. This will ensure you won't have to sway the masses from their faith for them to rebel, but may complicate things and lead to infighting in the future.
The rebellion is in support of the God Emperor: The Ecclessiarchy as it stands is a festering shadow of its former self and in defiance to the true will of the God Emperor, which you are fighting for. This will greatly ease the leap of logic needed for the masses to rebel but does bind your movement to a certain set of core beliefs.
The rebellion has no official stance on religion: Matters of faith and spirituality are just that, matters of faith and spirituality with no bearing on how the new administration conducts its affairs. The movement has no interest in legislating what one believes, it is a purely philosophical cause. The masses may take more to sway but the movement itself will remain flexible.
The rebellion is in opposition to the God Emperor: For hundreds of centuries, Humanity has suffered under the reign of a rotting corpse. For Mankind to be truly free, shrines must be shattered and the scriptures burned. This will cause most of the masses to be initially opposed to you, but may win you strange friends in strange places.
The rebellion is in support of ancient folk religions: Ages ago, the God Emperor decreed your ancestral faiths to be heresy or integrated into the Imperial Cult at His convenience. No longer, the movement will reject the Imperial Cult and replace it with its own truer religion. The finer details haven't been determined but aside from a few indoctrinated fanatics, the masses are likely to be more receptive to an alternative religion than aggressive anti-theism.
The rebellion is in support of The Omnissiah: Your friends on Euclite have taught you many enlightening things, of the machine spirits that must be appeased and that the pursuit of knowledge through technology is critical. Unlike Mars, the Euclite Mechanicus have realised that shackling human innovation is anathema to the truth and intend to research with only the barest minimum of restraint. You will join them in their sacred cause and spread their creed across the stars, though there's no telling how the masses or the Imperium will react.

Once the matter of religion has been addressed, only one critical question remains. When you were localised to Ushevan you could get away with calling yourselves the rebellion or the movement with no confusion, but now that you've emerged into the greater galaxy and are trying to present yourselves as an alternative to the Imperium of Man, a more specific name may be in order.

What should the rebellion call itself?
« Last Edit: July 12, 2023, 12:33:17 pm by Ardent Debater »
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« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2023, 12:47:08 pm »

Nobles: Strip them of their titles, and try the worst of them for their crimes - but properly. No kangaroo courts shall be had here. This is in line with the values of meritocracy, but also should remind all that the abuse of power shall be punished.

Religion: The rebellion is in support of The Omnissiah. We know our fellows in arms to be too our fellows in ideology, and their god has not bound them like the Ecclesiarchy had. Surely, they must be worthy of our approval... and it would likely be less odious to those beyond our reach that we follow an accepted, if unusual, religion.

Name: Vox Meritum (willing to hear other suggestions for this one)
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Quote from: FallacyOfUrist (on Discord, 11/15/21)
Glass is, as usual, correct.
Yep, as ever, I bestow upon Glass the expected +1
I'm gonna say we go with whatever Glass's idea is.

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Re: Doomed and Futile Rebellion (40k SG)
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2023, 01:18:42 pm »

Nobles: Strip them of their titles, and try the worst of them for their crimes - but properly. No kangaroo courts shall be had here. This is in line with the values of meritocracy, but also should remind all that the abuse of power shall be punished.

Religion: The rebellion is in support of The Omnissiah. We know our fellows in arms to be too our fellows in ideology, and their god has not bound them like the Ecclesiarchy had. Surely, they must be worthy of our approval... and it would likely be less odious to those beyond our reach that we follow an accepted, if unusual, religion.

Name: Vox Meritum (willing to hear other suggestions for this one)
+1
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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2023, 01:32:26 pm »

Nobles: Strip them of their titles, and try the worst of them for their crimes - but properly. No kangaroo courts shall be had here. This is in line with the values of meritocracy, but also should remind all that the abuse of power shall be punished.

Religion: The rebellion is in support of The Omnissiah. We know our fellows in arms to be too our fellows in ideology, and their god has not bound them like the Ecclesiarchy had. Surely, they must be worthy of our approval... and it would likely be less odious to those beyond our reach that we follow an accepted, if unusual, religion.

Name: Vox Meritum (willing to hear other suggestions for this one)
+1
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