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[TricMagic]

So it is, so shall it be I guess.

Change the price of Northland charts from 1.2s to 1.5s.
Price change to take effect from Turn 9 onwards.
Majority of shares (4+) required to approve change.
-Radiant Trading (3 shares):
-Corsair Incorporated (3 shares): YES
-Fairchild Enterprises (1 share):

Also have this thing.

The undersigned agree to share-based joint ownership of a trading vessel to be named "Six Storms", which shall initially traverse the Northlands route.
Each investor receives shares equal to the number of Sovereigns they contribute. 6 shares are available for 2 Sovereigns each. Each share entitles the holder to 1/10th of the goods delivered by the Glowing Manta upon returning to harbor. Each share also requires the holder to pay 1/6th of any costs incurred in the regular operation of the vessel (eg repairs, partial repairs with agreement of the majority, Chart costs, and loaned equipment), failure to pay resulting in shares and Goods being seized by the Ships Trust. Excess Goods shall be sold at market price, with excess of 0.01 Sovereigns held in trust by the "Six Storms", with shareholders having first buy rights in exchange for no profit from the sale (Should multiple wish to buy, Auction will begin with +0.5s being the maximum bid).
Any changes to the Six Storm's operations require a majority of shares to agree. Any changes to this contract require all shares to agree. In order to draw upon the Ships Trust, a Majority of the Shareholders must agree.
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Alternative contracts are a thing. Though don't think there is enough money among us to actually buy a ship.

[NUKE9.13]

I'm questioning if this counts as a contract change or pricing change?

What you are proposing is a fundamental change to the nature of the contract to benefit those with fewer shares. Which, no, is not happening. Should we change ship contracts so that people with only 1 share get a disproportionate amount of cargo too?

The price change I don't object to. Not that it would matter if I did, since you only need a majority.

That said, this is a disingenuous comparison and you know it. Making shareholders pay in the first place chiefly serves to siphon money from the lessor shareholders.

Nothing in the NRC contract mandates that shareholders of the NRC have to pay anything. It would be weird if it did. Who pays for the charts is left up to the purchasers to decide. If the shareholders of a ship decide that those amongst them who also happen to own NRC shares don't have to pay, more power to those insane lunatics. So long as the NRC gets paid the right amount, it doesn't matter who it comes from.
The disconnect appears to be that you and Tric are not compartmentalising your NRC shares as separate from your ship shares.
You are getting paid 1/7th of the NRC's income, which is as fair as it comes. To give you a discount on top of that 1/7th payout would be unfair, because you'd be receiving more than 1/7th of the value generated by the NRC- not monetary value, but chart access is also value. 

PS, from the contract:

Shareholders will not receive a discount, since they already receive a proportional cut of income, so giving them a discount on top of that would be unfair to other shareholders.

PPS: If either of you feel NRC shares are losing you money, I'd be happy to buy them. 

[TricMagic]

It's more the fact that they don't make money. They're paying more than they're getting cause they have more shares in ships than shares in the NRC. We don't have that problem cause we have 3 shares apiece.

[NUKE9.13]

It's more the fact that they don't make money. They're paying more than they're getting cause they have more shares in ships than shares in the NRC. We don't have that problem cause we have 3 shares apiece.

What do you mean they don't make money? They're getting paid 1/7th of what the NRC earns. That's money.
How many shares they do or do not own in ship(s) is completely irrelevant to how the NRC functions.

PPS: If either of you feel NRC shares are losing you money, I'd be happy to buy them. 

In hindsight, this probably comes across as condescending. Apologies if I caused offense. But, to be clear, I am genuinely willing to buy NRC shares, if you're willing. Name a price. I can probably finagle a loan or two if needed.

[Maxine]

It's more the fact that they don't make money. They're paying more than they're getting cause they have more shares in ships than shares in the NRC. We don't have that problem cause we have 3 shares apiece.

What do you mean they don't make money? They're getting paid 1/7th of what the NRC earns. That's money.
How many shares they do or do not own in ship(s) is completely irrelevant to how the NRC functions.

PPS: If either of you feel NRC shares are losing you money, I'd be happy to buy them. 

In hindsight, this probably comes across as condescending. Apologies if I caused offense. But, to be clear, I am genuinely willing to buy NRC shares, if you're willing. Name a price. I can probably finagle a loan or two if needed.

4s. I'd also be willing to accept your shares in the Lead Catfish, or the Glowing Manta. (Or one share of each, but I'd greatly prefer one or the other.)

Also have this thing.

The undersigned agree to share-based joint ownership of a trading vessel to be named "Six Storms", which shall initially traverse the Northlands route.
Each investor receives shares equal to the number of Sovereigns they contribute. 6 shares are available for 2 Sovereigns each. Each share entitles the holder to 1/10th of the goods delivered by the Glowing Manta upon returning to harbor. Each share also requires the holder to pay 1/6th of any costs incurred in the regular operation of the vessel (eg repairs, partial repairs with agreement of the majority, Chart costs, and loaned equipment), failure to pay resulting in shares and Goods being seized by the Ships Trust. Excess Goods shall be sold at market price, with excess of 0.01 Sovereigns held in trust by the "Six Storms", with shareholders having first buy rights in exchange for no profit from the sale (Should multiple wish to buy, Auction will begin with +0.5s being the maximum bid).
Any changes to the Six Storm's operations require a majority of shares to agree. Any changes to this contract require all shares to agree. In order to draw upon the Ships Trust, a Majority of the Shareholders must agree.
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Alternative contracts are a thing. Though don't think there is enough money among us to actually buy a ship.

Says we'd get shares of the Glowing Manta's goods, otherwise, I do like the name and idea. I'll keep it in mind once I actually have money again.

[SCREE]

I was enjoying the Typo. Like Glowing Mantra owners would forcibly have to give up their goods to Six Storms, like the playground bully stealing lunch money

[NUKE9.13]

I am genuinely willing to buy NRC shares, if you're willing. Name a price. I can probably finagle a loan or two if needed.

4s. I'd also be willing to accept your shares in the Lead Catfish, or the Glowing Manta. (Or one share of each, but I'd greatly prefer one or the other.)

That's a very high price. Counteroffer: one Lead Catfish share and 0.4s.

[Maxine]

I am genuinely willing to buy NRC shares, if you're willing. Name a price. I can probably finagle a loan or two if needed.

4s. I'd also be willing to accept your shares in the Lead Catfish, or the Glowing Manta. (Or one share of each, but I'd greatly prefer one or the other.)

That's a very high price. Counteroffer: one Lead Catfish share and 0.4s.

You did say I could name it, figured I'd shoot for the moon. Your counter isn't much better than Tric's offer of 1.4s. Make that a Glowing Manta share and it'd be more tempting.

[TricMagic]

I am genuinely willing to buy NRC shares, if you're willing. Name a price. I can probably finagle a loan or two if needed.

4s. I'd also be willing to accept your shares in the Lead Catfish, or the Glowing Manta. (Or one share of each, but I'd greatly prefer one or the other.)

That's a very high price. Counteroffer: one Lead Catfish share and 0.4s.

You did say I could name it, figured I'd shoot for the moon. Your counter isn't much better than Tric's offer of 1.4s. Make that a Glowing Manta share and it'd be more tempting.

I'm willing to a loan NUKE. 1s now for 1.33s when the Glowing Manta comes back in.

More seriously, can we change the price to 1.5s?

[NUKE9.13]

More seriously, can we change the price to 1.5s?

You said you'd give a bribe to Maxine to get them to vote for the NRC price change. I'd suggest you cough up.
Mind you, I'd also take the same bribe (for the same action), if you'd prefer.

[TricMagic]

I'd bribe them cause they have less to gain for it. (Actually no gain, just loss) We're equal, so.. And you did say you were willing to sign it already.
Or we can just keep it at 1.2 and lose free money. The Crab can certainly pay for it, and it's a high value trade route.


As devil's advocate, we could also bump the price so high that we force anyone else in the Glowing Manta to foreclose their shares. Together we have the majority after all. Eyes -Wares-To-Sell Corp Just a downright evil plan to force them out with us three getting their stocks for free. Sure no one else takes it, but eh, can change it back a turn later.

[Maxine]

Eh, I know I complained, but I'd actually feel bad if I insisted on taking a bribe after they tried to change things up in my favour.

Change the price of Northland charts from 1.2s to 1.5s.
Price change to take effect from Turn 9 onwards.
Majority of shares (4+) required to approve change.
-Radiant Trading (3 shares):
-Corsair Incorporated (3 shares): YES
-Fairchild Enterprises (1 share): YES

For anyone it may concern the price to head on our Northland route will be 1.5s next turn.

[TricMagic]

Eh, I know I complained, but I'd actually feel bad if I insisted on taking a bribe after they tried to change things up in my favour.

Change the price of Northland charts from 1.2s to 1.5s.
Price change to take effect from Turn 9 onwards.
Majority of shares (4+) required to approve change.
-Radiant Trading (3 shares):
-Corsair Incorporated (3 shares): YES
-Fairchild Enterprises (1 share): YES

For anyone it may concern the price to head on our Northland route will be 1.5s next turn.

Thanks. If you ever need a bit of spare change just tell me, I'll loan it with no interest rate if I can.

Spoiler: Corsair Inc. (click to show/hide)

[Corsair Incorporated]
Ship Register:

Code: (Glowing Manta) [Select]

[See Paperwork http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=181742.msg8483339#msg8483339]
-Radiant Trading for 2s
-Wares-To-Sell Corp for 3s
-Corsairs Incorporated for 3s
-Fairchild Enterprises 2s
Current Destination: NearEastland
Trade: Sand
Return: In Port

Assets
Sovereigns: 2.13s
Sand: 3
Preserved Meat: 0

Contracts
Northern Route Cooperative: Current Chart Contract. (3/7 Shares, 1.5 Sovereigns per journey. Shareholders must pay. Payouts > 0.01 shall be held till next payout.) [Leftover: 0.002857143s]

Code: (Records List) [Select]

[Turn 0]
Participated in the purchase of the Glowing Manta. 3 Sovereigns spent.
Glowing Manta set off for Neareastland. 2 Turn Trip.
[Turn 1]
Created a Records List.
Waited on the Glowing Manta's Return.
[Turn 2]
Glowing Manta Returns, 3 Sand gained.
3 Sand sold for market price of 0.51 apiece.
Invested in charting contract. NRC Chart Contract gained. (3/7 Shares, see contracts.) Explorer sets off North.
Glowing Manta sets off for Neareastland.
[Turn 3]
Updated Records List
Sacred Animal: White Dove spotted in the Capital. 3 Sovereigns per Hunter price.
Waited on Glowing Manta's Return.
[Turn 4]
Glowing Manta Returns, 3 Sand gained.
3 Sand sold for market price of 0.48 apiece.
Glowing Manta sets off for Neareastland.
[Turn 5]
Waited on Glowing Manta's Return.
Worked with NRC to change the Contract Price for Northland to 1.2.
[Turn 6]
Glowing Manta Returns, 3 Sand gained.
Called for Glowing Manta Route Change to Northland. [Completed]
Price of repairing clarified.
0.36 paid to NRC, get 1.02 from NRC Shares, 0.66s Profit
Glowing Manta sets off for Northland.
[Turn 7/8]
Waited for Glowing Manta's Return.
On Turn 8, called for the price of the NRC Chart to be changed to 1.5s. Approved. Gave 0.1s to Fairchild Enterprises.


[SCREE]

Turn 9
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Late Autumn Year 1
TURNTURNTURN
⦓ ⍝The Elder Gods sigh in their Slumber⍝ ⦔

Hear ye Hear ye! The Audacious Crustaceous and Lead Catfish set off once again on routes becoming familiar. The docks were abuzz with rumours as the sole Owner of the Audacious Crustaceous strutted abroad his ship. What, perchance, will Happy Crabs LLC see of the new world? What should happen if his ship should be lost at sea...?

Thoughts of the curious ship's voyage were lost on the morrow when a single solitary silhouette was spotted on the North Horizon. The Crazy Aywen pulled into docks with a strange tale indeed. They had been hot on the heels of the Glowing Manta when their sister ship had started to veer off course. Pulling alongside, Crazy Aywen raised its flags to communicate, but Glowing Manta was unresponsive. Committed to due North, Crazy Aywen left the Glowing Manta behind as the doomed ship veered Eastwards.

Safe in port, the Crazy Aywen crew said they saw no strange mists, and have no idea what happened (followed by some good natured ribbing of the crew skill, of course). But a Topman swore up and down that he could see the expressions of the Manta crew, and they looked dazed. The Topman seemed truly haunted by this, but his fellows mentioned he'd been on the drink and was due leave.

In other news, the Market greedily covets the new resource, even more so now that news of the Manta has spread, and gourmands know it is in short supply.

The Illustrious Sculptor finishes paying his dues, which evidently take a long time when you're a starving artist. Still, he remained true to his word:

One sand sold for 0.7 sovereigns:
    These goods were sold by Wave-breaker LLC

A further 3 sand sold for 0.6 sovereign:
    These goods were sold by Happy Crab LLC
    These goods were sold by Wave-breaker LLC
    These goods were sold by Fairchild Enterprises

and 4 sold for 0.5 sovereigns:

    These goods were sold by Wave-breaker LLC
    These goods were sold by Happy Crab LLC
    These goods were sold by Wave-breaker LLC
    These goods were sold by Fairchild Enterprises

Total Changes:
Wave-breaker LLC received 2.3 Sovereigns for 4 Units of Sand
Happy Crab LLC received 1.1 Sovereigns for 2 units of Sand
Fairchild Enterprises received 1.1 Sovereigns for 2 units of Sand

All other sand was sold for 0.44 sovereigns as usual.

Prices
Sand - 0.44 Sovereigns per Unit
Preserved Meats - 1.02 Sovereigns per Unit [+0.02]

Ship - 12 Sovereigns per Ship [carries 10 units]

Sacred Animals roaming Free - Rediculous!
All is quiet in the Capitol.  The Snow White Dove will not be seen again until Late Spring Year 3.

Ships & Voyages
The Glowing Manta has not returned on time...?
The Audacious Crustaceous set sail to NearEastland and will return end of Early Winter Year 1 with a cargo of Sand.
The Crazy Aywen is docked with a cargo of Preserved Meats.
The Lead Catfish set sail to NearEastland and will return end of Early Winter Year 1 with a cargo of Sand.

Destinations from the Capitol
NearEastland - It takes 2 Turns to travel here. Ships return with Sand. (Public Charts)
Northland - It takes 3 Turns to travel here. Ships return with Preserved Meats. (Exclusive Charts owned by NRC)

Ports
The Great and Regal Capitol!! Hear Hear!!


New Mechanics
Holding Trade Goods: You may store up to 7 units of trade goods in your personal establishments before it starts spilling out onto the streets. You can still directly sell from your ship as usual, this just applies to storing goods between turns. Warehouses will be available for rent or purchase in the next few turns (trying to slow my roll a little bit about introducing new mechanics :,))

Royal Favor Costs available : You can now spend your Royal Favor, information moved to Post 2.

Auction: The Unsung Seas, wotwot!

Exclusivity Rights?: Yes: 4 Sovereigns
Bid Win Conditions: the highest bidder can pick any non-cardinal direction for the Lady Igraine to explore.
Duration: this auction is active for the next turn, ending in Early Winter, where Igraine will take her payment and immediately leave.

Spoiler: Turn 7 description (click to show/hide)

Being outdone by Ferdinand has lit a fire under Lady Igraine. A towering robust woman in possession of one handsome nose, Igraine has made a passionate declaration to "sail the unsung seas". She has made a request for donations, with the highest bidder able to pick any non cardinal direction for her to chart a course to, because 'cardinal directions are for cowards, wotwot'. She requires 4 Sovereigns to be convinced to sell her charts exclusively. She will collect donations until Early Winter Year 1, and will set sail the very same month.

[NUKE9.13]

Kest lay vai. The ship will either show up, or it won't.

Spoiler: Radiant Trading (click to show/hide)

Sovereigns: 3.03s

Debits/Credits:
   0.2s loaned to Aywen Ayes. 0.32s repayment expected on Turn 10.

Shares:
   2 shares in Glowing Manta
   2 shares in Lead Catfish
   3 shares in Northern Route Cooperative