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[sofanthiel]

EP, I trust you on this one.

Snowkiller

[NJW2000]

Unvote

Jesus christ. Snowkiller self-votes, and other people might want to talk, no matter how sure you are.

[sofanthiel]

please nobody else put a vote there until we’re ready

Misread this.

Unvote

[sofanthiel]

Sorry

[Maxine]

Crystal, this is a stupid question, but you don't happen to also have the rifle in addition to the grenade right?

I do in fact have one rifle alongside the grenade!

Good to know. Don't know you were shot, but reasonably satisfied that Max did so. Unvote. Do kinda half want to lynch you just in case you are scum and lying about being shot.

Re: Why I thought that Maxine is scum: Maxine seems like the only person who voted with Quarque, plus the lack of engagement wasn't helping Maxine's case.

I mean I can't argue against the lack of engagement. And, sure I guess we shared our votes briefly, very briefly the second time, but I feel it is a stretch to make much of it.

Anything I had to say or ask sofa feels a bit unnecessary now.

Well, if I'm reading things right, have enough shots to handle things if it isn't Snow, so not too worried. You guys may want to talk that over, or not, depends on if you think being able to coordinate is more or less important than letting the potential scum know what you're doing.

[Crystalizedmire]

There is evidence that Snowkiller isn't a rebel. For one thing, Quarque contributed to the Snowkiller bandwagon.
This would mean:
1. Quarque was trying to look less suspicious by voting out a scum
2. Snowkiller is very annoying to be partners with
3. Snowkiller is innocent, Quarque just wanted to vote out a lurker.
Quarque might have tried to vote out Snowkiller for multiple of the above reasons.
Given that Quarque said this:

Your attack on sofanthiel gives me bad vibes and, as I said above, I find it baffling that you'd put a second pressure vote on a lurker. Care to explain the latter?

Sure. Snowkiller is not just a lurker, he is someone who had no intention of playing and "joined" the game out of spite, with no other intention than to troll as much as possible. It pisses me off. He won't play the game now, and he won't play if we wait longer. The way I see it, we're going to have to take him out at some point anyway, and I would rather do it sooner than later. At least I hope we can ban them from any new games started here.

I'm pretty sure it is scenario 3.

[The Canadian kitten]

PFP

I definitely can see scenario 3 happening.

Btw what does the dotted underline text say?

[Crystalizedmire]

PFP

I definitely can see scenario 3 happening.

Btw what does the dotted underline text say?

If this is the case and Snowkiller was voted out, it would be the second time Snowkiller was voted out as townie even though we know a scum voted them.

[EuchreJack]

Day 2 Current Votecount:
NJW2000: Crystalizedmire, The Canadian kitten (2)
Snowkiller: Elephant Parade (1)
sofanthiel: (0)
Maxine: (0)
Elephant Parade: (0)
The Canadian kitten: (0)
Crystalizedmire: (0)


Not voting: Snowkiller, Maxine, sofanthiel, NJW2000 

Day ends on Tuesday, September 5th at 8:30pm EST, approximately 22 hours 18 minutes from now, or a HAMMER by total of FOUR (4) votes on one player.

Reminder: Both sides lose on a Tie.

[NJW2000]

@CM: true. Then again, I think 1 and 2 are also quite likely. Quarque was under pressure from Elephant, and probably wouldn’t count on Snowkiller to win as scum if he got eliminated.

The willingness to shoot snowkiller, however, is interesting. Night killing your scum partner is a pretty bold tactic, though I’ve seen it happen.

[Elephant Parade]

If Snowkiller is scum, Quarque probably assumed it wouldn't come to that because Snowkiller would lose the D1 lynch. Failing that, he could've fakeclaimed shooting Snowkiller or possibly used a multikill.

[Elephant Parade]

There is evidence that Snowkiller isn't a rebel. For one thing, Quarque contributed to the Snowkiller bandwagon.
This would mean:
1. Quarque was trying to look less suspicious by voting out a scum
2. Snowkiller is very annoying to be partners with
3. Snowkiller is innocent, Quarque just wanted to vote out a lurker.
Quarque might have tried to vote out Snowkiller for multiple of the above reasons.
Given that Quarque said this:

Your attack on sofanthiel gives me bad vibes and, as I said above, I find it baffling that you'd put a second pressure vote on a lurker. Care to explain the latter?

Sure. Snowkiller is not just a lurker, he is someone who had no intention of playing and "joined" the game out of spite, with no other intention than to troll as much as possible. It pisses me off. He won't play the game now, and he won't play if we wait longer. The way I see it, we're going to have to take him out at some point anyway, and I would rather do it sooner than later. At least I hope we can ban them from any new games started here.

I'm pretty sure it is scenario 3.

I find scenario 3 less likely because it doesn't fully explain why Quarque was so eager to hop on their wagon. Overanalyzing votes led me wrong last game, though.

[Maxine]

Suppose that spiel might have just been to look emotional, defend the choice later when they came up town. Did back down pretty quickly as well. But don't think it really boost 3 above 1 and 2. If say, Snowkiller was equally uncommunicative in scum chat, or even said that this is all they planned to do, I might be miffed enough to try using them like that.

Don't think Snowkiller is going to chime in even if they were actually on the chopping block. Is still time (like 8 or so hours?), but will leave a vote for now.

[NJW2000]

Snowkiller

We don’t have that long. I’ll be asleep, so somebody please hammer an hour or two before.

If SK isn’t the end, I suspect CrystallisedMore. Maxine feels better today, and TheCanadianKitten seems very willing to sit on the sidelines… though I guess they did have a vote on Quarque, but the concern to look town might explain unusual levels of bussing for a new player. So CM, then tck/maxine, then sofa/EP.

[NJW2000]

Ideally unvote me too, I guess, unless you’re planning to elim me. That would be better than everyone dying to a draw. The