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[Elephant Parade]

While I didn't read Quarque as scum, I also wouldn't be surprised if they were. At the time Maxine looked more suspicious due to their lack of engagement so I voted them instead of Quarque.

OK. That seems plausible given your play last game. Unvote.

[Elephant Parade]

Oh, one final question, CM: Can you use your grenade every night or just the once?

[Crystalizedmire]

Oh, one final question, CM: Can you use your grenade every night or just the once?

Once.

[Elephant Parade]

Thanks. I was almost certain you'd answer that way but I wanted to be sure.

[NJW2000]

Spoiler: Elephant Parade (click to show/hide)

PFP

No, Max hammered because he was worried about someone blowing up the game with a tie, which was the correct move for both scum!Max and town!Max.

That was Max's stated logic, but there could have been other reasons. Quarque's last minute re-vote on Max also looked like it could be distancing, but I guess he was just genuinely trying to not be eliminated and thought that could happen if he voted again, I don't know. Or maybe he was coached into it.

You seem to have this thing where the only interpretation of a situation you can see as reasonable is the one that you naturally arrive at, and anyone who arrives at a different one is mistaken at best and likely scum into the bargain. Which is a bit humiliating for me to have to point out, because thus far I've failed to spot Quarque and been wrong about Max, so it feels like I'm just saying that I'm stupid and you can't understand that.

I guess Maxine looks goodhere... Quarque votes Snowkiller, Maxine immediately unvotes them. It would be weird for scum to do that. Four posts isn't a lot to go on.

[Elephant Parade]

I just don't see how you could've arrived at that interpretation of Max's vote. It doesn't really make sense to me. Setting aside tie prevention, Max's stated motive, being a good move for a Max of any alignment, how would being the fifth (!) vote on a sold wagon give a scum!Max towncred? It doesn't feel like a plausible mistake for you to make, which is why I think it's scummy.

[Elephant Parade]

sofanthiel, Maxine, The Canadian kitten: Please claim your night actions.

[Elephant Parade]

I just don't see how you could've arrived at that interpretation of Max's vote. It doesn't really make sense to me. Setting aside tie prevention, Max's stated motive, being a good move for a Max of any alignment, how would being the fifth (!) vote on a sold wagon give a scum!Max towncred? It doesn't feel like a plausible mistake for you to make, which is why I think it's scummy.

*fourth

[Elephant Parade]

sofanthiel, Maxine, The Canadian kitten: Please claim your night actions.

My bad, TCk already did. That accounts for NJW getting shot.

[Crystalizedmire]

Setting aside tie prevention, Max's stated motive, being a good move for a Max of any alignment

I'm pretty sure Maxine was trying to force a tie. Before the Snowkiller bandwagon the vote count looked like this:

Current Votecount:
NJW2000: Maximum Spin, sofanthiel (2)
sofanthiel: Maxine, Quarque (2)
Elephant Parade: Crystalizedmire, NJW2000 (2)
Quarque: (0)
Maxine: (0)
Snowkiller: (0)
The Canadian kitten: (0)
Crystalizedmire: (0)
Maximum Spin: (0)

Then Maxine voted Snowkiller and Sofanthiel and Quarque followed the vote. Maxine then voted me. So the vote count would look like this:
NJW2000: Maximum Spin (1)
sofanthiel: (0)
Elephant Parade: Crystalizedmire, NJW2000 (2)
Quarque: (0)
Maxine: (0)
Snowkiller: sofanthiel, Quarque (2)
The Canadian kitten: (0)
Crystalizedmire: Maxine (1)
Maximum Spin: (0)

Problems with this theory:
While I don't think that forcing a tie would be beneficial to Maxine if they do not know that Scum win if a tie happens and at that point in the game, assuming that Maxine didn't read/play in another Armed Forces mafia game, Maxine would not have known that. And if Maxine wanted to force a tie then voting Spin would be the obvious solution.

[Elephant Parade]

First of all, that Max was Maximum, not Maxine. A little ambiguous, but I think it was clear enough in the context of the post I was replying to.

Second of all, what?

CADETS! I don't know if you're stupid or lazy, but you seem reluctant to find the Rebels! You MUST pick one cadet for Summary Execution. If you are unable to decide, then your whole squad will be eliminated.
In the event of a tie, ALL Players Lose.

For the Emperor!

Scum don't win in a tie. Everyone loses in a tie, unless there's a third party who has it has a secret wincon, which would be fairly bastard-y given the "ALL players lose" above. And you can't "force" a tie by voting someone 24 hours before the day ends!

[Elephant Parade]

sofanthiel, the longer you wait to claim, the more you look like scum workshopping a fakeclaim. Going into D2, you seemed like one of the least likely players to be scum. As of now, I am less certain. Please claim immediately.

[Crystalizedmire]

Sorry about my mistakes! I honestly didn't think you guys were referring to Maximum spin because they're already dead. Second of all, I misread that as scum win in tie instead of everyone loses!

[NJW2000]

Hm... who can I see coaching/teaming with Quarque?

There's an insane case where it's Elephant Parade forcing a bussing play on D1 out of nowhere, but that's unlikely.

I don't think Maxine, they seem to have strong game sense and would probably have asked QQ to stop pursuing certain cases.

I can see Snowkiller, because they presumably would say nothing.

I can see CrystallizedMire. Equally weak cases so wouldn't coach QQ out of them, a bit scared of commitment, stayed on the Maxine wagon.

[Elephant Parade]

Did mafia have daychat in AFM1?