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Voting closed: May 27, 2023, 04:40:22 am

[Egan_BW]

Stone costs the same as wood, so always better to build stone forts with gold than wooden ones.
And I'm guessing conquering a castle would give any tiles connected to it the higher victory points at game end?

...I just realized my castle is literally not connected by land to anything, so I might have to get on that!

[Criptfeind]

I'm going to do a last minute change from library to wood production, if that's permissible, I could be wrong but right now with how it works it sorta feels like library is probably mostly just going to spawn loot for others which is a sorta feels bad thing.

[notquitethere]

Stone costs the same as wood, so always better to build stone forts with gold than wooden ones.

Sure, wood is just a lot easier to get in the Hedge.

And I'm guessing conquering a castle would give any tiles connected to it the higher victory points at game end?

...I just realized my castle is literally not connected by land to anything, so I might have to get on that!

If you conquer the land next to your island, you'll connect up to the castle. It's more that you get less for having disconnected patches of tiles.

I'm going to do a last minute change from library to wood production, if that's permissible, I could be wrong but right now with how it works it sorta feels like library is probably mostly just going to spawn loot for others which is a sorta feels bad thing.

That's fine.

[Egan_BW]

If you conquer the land next to your island, you'll connect up to the castle. It's more that you get less for having disconnected patches of tiles.

Is that different from ship coast-hopping creating coastal enclaves every 5 tiles? Does it only apply to landlocked enclaves? Or is it just a special case to be nice to me? :p
As far as I can tell, the only way to end up with disconnected lands is by sailing or getting "encircled" by enemies reconquering your lands. Oh, or by getting permission to conquer something on the edge of another hedgelord's lands, which seems like a poor strategy on their part.

So main question is if lands being connected by the sea counts in general, or just for my island to the nearest coast.

[notquitethere]

Lords

Six Lords are granted castles along the marches. These Hedge Lords are entrusted with protecting the border and expanding the domain of King Alkabar.

Once a Thornish enemy, Aywen Ayes defected to King Alkabar's cause and was able to keep her castle, The Oak and Ash, and be made Marchioness. She knows of the nearest Thornish fort: two Thornish holdouts hold a fort at 8/8 strength in P11.

Spoiler: Marchioness Aywen Ayes - The Oak and Ash (click to show/hide)

Marchioness Aywen Ayes
Background: Thornish Defector
Castle Name: The Oak and Ash
Castle Location N-13
Border Colour: Red
Army: 4/13
Defence: 10/10
Wood Production: 1
Recruitment: 1
Gold: 5
Income: 1
Debt: 0
Features: Mustering Yard, Coppicing Grove, Barracks
Forts : None
Artefacts: None
Equipment: Siege Engine
Special Units: None

Countess Andice Glorinisits, of high noble birth, has been granted a castle on the remote southern island, Point Swearing.

Spoiler: Countess Andice Gloronisits (click to show/hide)

Background: Noble
Castle Name: Point Swearing
Castle Location 14-S
Border Color: Hot Pink
Army: 3/10
Defense: 10/10
Wood Production: 1
Recruitment: 0
Gold: 10
Income: 1
Debt: 0
Features: Shipyard, Coppicing Grove, Library
Forts: None
Artefacts: None
Equipment: None
Special Units: None

Seasoned Naval Captain, Fritz Ferdinand von Bockhoven has been granted a fine castle in the north, Bockelstein.

Spoiler: Fritz Ferdinand von Bockhoven (click to show/hide)

Marquess Fritz Ferdinand von Bockhoven
Background: Naval Captain
Castle Name: Bockelstein
Castle Location: C13
Border Colour: Yellow
Army: 3/10
Defence: 10/10 (if it reaches 0 and your castle has 0 units left defending it, you lose)
Wood Production: 1
Recruitment: 1
Gold: 5
Income: 1
Debt: 0
Features:
* Coppicing Grove: +1 wood production
* Mustering Yard: +1 recruitment (+1 army size per turn, up to your max)
* Shipyard (coast only): -2 wood required for making ships. Boats hold +1 army.
Forts (location, defense 5/5, armies assigned): n/a
Artefacts: None
Equipment: 2 boats
Special Units: None

The King's own builder, the Marquess Gerald Wright, has raised up the Castle Wright.

Spoiler: Marquess Gerald Wright (click to show/hide)

Marquess Gerald Wright
Background: Master Builder
Castle Name:
Castle Location K14
Border Colour: Maroon
Army: 3/10
Defence: 10/10
Wood Production: 1
Recruitment: 1
Gold: 5
Income: 2
Debt: 0
Wood: 0
Stone: 3
Features: Coppicing Grove, Mustering Yard, Marketplace
Forts (location, defense 5/5, armies assigned): n/a
Artefacts: None
Equipment: None
Special Units: None

Prince Mackial FitzHarbort, a royal bastard who was an inconvenience to the court, has been sent away to the tower of Shandston's Folly.

Spoiler: Prince Mackial FitzHarbort (click to show/hide)

Background: Useless Relative
Castle Name: Shandston's Folly
Castle Location: H14
Border Colour: Orange
Army: 3/11 (10 Base + 1 Tower)
Defence: 14/14 (10 Base, +1 Tower)
Wood Production: 0
Recruitment: 1 (0 Base +1 Mustering Yard)
Gold: 6
Income: 2 (1 Base +1 Marketplace)
Debt: 20
Features:
 - Library (+1 rumor /turn)
 - Mustering Yard (+1 recruitment /turn)
 - Marketplace (+1 income /turn)
 - Tower (+4/+4 defence, +1 army cap)
Forts (location, defense 5/5, armies assigned): n/a
Artefacts: None
Equipment: None
Special Units: None

Finally, the unsettling Ambrosio Vulk has settled in Castle Mysterious.

Spoiler: Marquess Ambrosio Vulk (click to show/hide)

Background: Bone Reckoner
Castle Name: Castle Mysterious
Castle Location P14
Border Colour: Blue
Army: 3/13
Defence: 10/10 (if it reaches 0 and your castle has 0 units left defending it, you lose)
Wood Production: 1
Recruitment: 1
Gold: 5
Income: 1
Debt: 0
Features: Mustering Yard, Barracks, Coppicing Grove
Forts (location, defense 5/5, armies assigned): n/a
Artefacts: None
Equipment: None
Special Units: 1 Skeleton 1 Skeleton Archer

TURN 1

The marcher lords look westward at the wild country beyond...

Resource increases happen at the start of your turn. From here, it's your responsibility to keep accurate records on your sheet, so update them accordingly.

Library Research

- Countess Andice Gloronisits learns that in R4 is the Shield of Earth (the army wielding this is considered to have +1 defence at the start of every combat, as if they were siege defenders)

- Prince Mackial FitzHarbort learns that in C8 is the Crimson Tower (Keep/Tower/Bloodforge) Defence 17/17,  - Dai the Bloodsinger has a Bloodforge in which 3 armies may be sacrificed to create a new artefact (and become anathema to all).

So main question is if lands being connected by the sea counts in general, or just for my island to the nearest coast.

Skipping ahead across water to get to prime locations is maybe worth having to jump through some hoops in the late game to join things up with a castle to get more points. There can be artefacts or sites which will give additional victory points, so it might not be the end of the world if you're spread out.

[a1s]

Spoiler: Marchioness Aywen Ayes - The Oak and Ash (click to show/hide)

Marchioness Aywen Ayes
Background: Thornish Defector
Castle Name: The Oak and Ash
Castle Location N-13
Border Colour: Red
Army: 5/13
Defence: 10/10
Wood Production: 1
Recruitment: 1
Income: 1
Wood: 1
Gold: 6
Debt: 0
Features: Mustering Yard, Coppicing Grove, Barracks
Forts : None
Artefacts: None
Equipment: Siege Engine
Special Units: None

Spoiler: Orders (click to show/hide)

March on N12
March on M12
March on M13
March on M14
March on N14
Buy 3 armies
March on O12
March on O13
Scout N10.

Question: does production take a turn or can you make use of your new equipment right away? Same question about trade: is it instantaneous?

[a1s]

Also, can we edit posts?

I propose to establish a fund into each we shall each pay equally, and from which 1 gold will be paid to whoever makes a discovery with their library, as such discoveries benefit all.

[Criptfeind]

Should Bog hag be a 9 in the encounter Terrain Features list? Also should prince Mackial be starting at 5 gold like everyone else? Can we use boats/bows/siege stuff the same turn we make them?

[Quarque]

Question: does production take a turn or can you make use of your new equipment right away? Same question about trade: is it instantaneous?

I think trading is instant? Production is explicitly end of turn:

[under: Resources] At the end of each turn, you gain +1 wood for each forest, +1 army size for each village, +1 gold from each mine, +1 stone from a quarry. Your castle may also produce extra resources. Recruitment = + army. Income = + gold.

I propose to establish a fund into each we shall each pay equally, and from which 1 gold will be paid to whoever makes a discovery with their library, as such discoveries benefit all.

Libraries are most likely to discover things near your own castle, so they benefit their owners more than others. Nonetheless I'd be okay with donating 1 Gold into such a fund this turn.

[Egan_BW]

I have plenty of gold without such donations. *Laughs aristocratically.*

Dear Marquess Ambrosio Vulk, would you agree to informally draw our border on the line between Q and R? I'd prefer to push westward without having to worry about racing you for closer lands.

[Criptfeind]

Dear Marquess Ambrosio Vulk, would you agree to informally draw our border on the line between Q and R? I'd prefer to push westward without having to worry about racing you for closer lands.

Certainly In EE I'd be willing to agree and it seems the most natural thing to assume each person should control the area around their castle, for further sectors, I am uncomfortably close to Marchioness Aywen Ayes, when I get to the first mountain in the west I'm going to have to go north or south of it, and either way I'm going to step on someones toes there, so am a bit unsure what I'll be doing then.

I think trading is instant? Production is explicitly end of turn:

This seems at odds with:

Resource increases happen at the start of your turn. From here, it's your responsibility to keep accurate records on your sheet, so update them accordingly.

Maybe?

Edit: I'd agree to paying library people something, although I'm not sure at what rate. 1 gold a turn doesn't really make sense I think (that'd just make it a better marketplace)

[Egan_BW]

Limiting it to ee is fine. Past that its likely that I'll go long and narrow, giving you more room.

[notquitethere]

Important Update
Sorry for the confusion: all resource production can happen at the start of your turn, and trading and equipment production can happen during your turn, with only scouting and attacking processed at the end. That way it maximises the stuff you're doing on your side and the less I need to report on. I'll update the OP accordingly.

Also, can we edit posts?

Sure, I don't mind. I don't mind double-posting either. Just be warned that if I'm mid-way through doing an update, I might miss an edit.

Should Bog hag be a 9 in the encounter Terrain Features list? Also should prince Mackial be starting at 5 gold like everyone else? Can we use boats/bows/siege stuff the same turn we make them?

Yes, that was a weird error. The Prince has debt but the same starting cash.  Yes, see above.

[Egan_BW]

1 wood and 1 gold produced. Trading 2 gold for 1 wood.
Building a boat.
3stack sails to S13 and marches to claim it for the glory of me, and by extension the king, and by extension GOD.

Spoiler: Countess Andice Gloronisits, of Point Swearing (click to show/hide)

Background: Noble
Castle Name: Point Swearing
Castle Location: S14
Border Color: Hot Pink
Army: 3/10
Defense: 10/10
Wood Production: 1
Wood: 0
Recruitment: 0
Gold: 9
Income: 1
Debt: 0
Features: Shipyard, Coppicing Grove, Library
Forts: None
Artefacts: None
Equipment: 1 Boat
Special Units: None

[a1s]

Certainly In EE I'd be willing to agree and it seems the most natural thing to assume each person should control the area around their castle, for further sectors, I am uncomfortably close to Marchioness Aywen Ayes, when I get to the first mountain in the west I'm going to have to go north or south of it, and either way I'm going to step on someones toes there, so am a bit unsure what I'll be doing then.

We can't both control the area around our castles, because the areas intersect (in O-13 and O-14) I Propose O-13 goes to me, and O 14 to you. I would also like to propose an Open Border policy for troop movement.

I'd agree to paying library people something, although I'm not sure at what rate. 1 gold a turn doesn't really make sense I think (that'd just make it a better marketplace)

Perhaps one gold every other turn (there are 2 libraries currently so we will simply pay them on alternating turns)