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PHLP_Neo

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New use for noble and the potential for semi-artifact items.
« on: April 06, 2023, 12:04:12 am »

Hello, this is Neo.

So in .50 dwarf fortress introduced a new mechanic, symbols for nobles to carry/wear.




This mechanic allows you to assign an item (weapon, armor, tools and other wearable items) to a noble, naming said item in the process.



When messing with some unfortunate accidents I have discovered that said item displayed some quality similar to artifacts, namely, fireproof.


(the bucket is the named object and as you can see its completely fine)


The entire surface was burnt down, people are dying, yet the named cloak is completely safe and sound.

This mechanic is observed in the past, with named books shows similar property. Many creative ways to weaponize such item was developed, but now it seems with the help of the nobles we can mass produce such items.

further research still need to be conducted, for example:

-are such object wear proof? (if so, this could significantly change the fundamental of cloth/armor industry)
-are such object magma proof?
-is there a way to weaponize them (probably)



Nevertheless I think this is an interesting finding and is worth sharing, maybe the nobles would be somewhat useful now!
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Re: New use for noble and the potential for semi-artifact items.
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2023, 07:17:53 am »

According to Toady, since the implementation of library burning events, artifacts and named objects are indeed destructible on your map. Though, as you've...unfortunately...discovered, they've still got some special qualities like fireproof.

I believe they are wear proof, though haven't tested it.
Magma can melt non-magmasafe artifacts/items/books.
Weaponization is interesting. Named copper armor would be nice, if it still provides protection while not taking wear. I'd also like to see if weapons get the attack and damage bonus which artifact weapons do, though this seems unlikely.

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Re: New use for noble and the potential for semi-artifact items.
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2023, 02:29:27 pm »

Candy cloaks are the tastiest target of these shenanigans, right?
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Re: New use for noble and the potential for semi-artifact items.
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2023, 08:13:02 pm »

Candy cloaks are the tastiest target of these shenanigans, right?

Nah, it'd be socks, of course.

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Re: New use for noble and the potential for semi-artifact items.
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2023, 12:23:54 am »

According to Toady, since the implementation of library burning events

Library burning events?? I've never heard about this where does he mention that

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Re: New use for noble and the potential for semi-artifact items.
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2023, 11:54:52 pm »

So I asked Toady about it last August. Here's the FOTF post: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=169696.msg8395484#msg8395484

Although it isn't mentioned in the wiki (at least around the library and site pages) - libraries (or any location, it seems) can be destroyed in world gen - I've seen screenshots of libraries being burned and, Library of Alexandria-style, the world total amount of books drop by 20%.