we need to speedrun this a bit, so lets go ahead and pull out some D2 tricks:
MY LIST in order from pinging the Scumdar10000TM least to most:
zemaj - a paragon of insight and a marvel of townieness
Toony - several posts with light prods & even reads
IronyOwl - few posts, but one did have a prod attached.
Fallacy - has tried to move conversation, even made a posit or two... trying to be TL? Sus, but not comdemning
Max - 2 posts, throwing two names with nothing further on first, but making an assertation I can agree with on second... meh, its D1, still...
Jim - lots of posts right at the start, then nothing... went to bed?
Fluffe - posts read much like the name-sake
a1s - no posts
I like that zemaj made a reads list, but the reads themselves are kind of unsatisfying. There's a lot of summary and not a lot of evaluation and judgment. If the list weren't ranked I would have no idea who he actually suspected.
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Is your list of suspects today the same as it was yesterday?
Yes. I am definitely working with the exact same list of players. My reads on them, however, shift with every post. On occasion, within the same post. Allow me to elaborate:
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I mean if ToonyMan is scum then town is pretty well fucked. My scum game is terrible so it's not as bad for the town if I'm scum. I don't really see a scenario where town wins if it's ToonyMan, since I doubt enough town ever agree to rank him high enough on their POE by the end of Day 1 for him to be eliminated.
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this bit...
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If the day ended now I think my POE list would look like:
Maximum Spin
Flufffe9911
Irony Owl
zemaj
a1s
FallacyofUrist
ToonyMan
Jim Groovester
ToonyMan feels pretty good. FallacyofUrist also feels good. a1s' unbelievably low effort play somehow makes him more likely to be town than not. zemaj and Irony Owl are okay but could be a lot better. Fluffe9911 hasn't really done anything. Maximum Spin has boldly voted people but also hasn't really done anything.
... jars in my mind with this bit. While both may be true, shouldn't some of that suspicion bleed into your POE? You have the person you say are most dangerous as scum directly above yourself. I mean, it happens I agree with all of it, so I'm wondering why you aren't more suspicious
for that, as I am.
Look, Jamez iz all over the place here. Loud but insubstantial with a forzed *~*HILARIOUS*~* pretenze that makes it eazy to keep making noize without saying anything that might incriminate.
In fact, I understand why Fallacy thinks he's town because he's acting like scum Fallacy acts when he's trying to act like he thinks town would act.
If he gets it together and starts being useful, then I'll recalibrate, but right now it looks more like he's trying to audition for a one-man show on basic cable.
Well that's, like, your
opinion, man.
Look, Jamez iz all over the place here. Loud but insubstantial with a forzed *~*HILARIOUS*~* pretenze that makes it eazy to keep making noize without saying anything that might incriminate.
In fact, I understand why Fallacy thinks he's town because he's acting like scum Fallacy acts when he's trying to act like he thinks town would act.
If he gets it together and starts being useful, then I'll recalibrate, but right now it looks more like he's trying to audition for a one-man show on basic cable.
I don't really agree. If zemaj is acting like a one-man show it's working: they don't look like scum to me. I think your accusation feels more like a personal grudge against their playstyle than actually suspecting them of being scum.
just pointing out that, if so, it is totally valid. I get my humor and meta aren't to everyone's preference, and RVS can be expression of that. It was rather late for RVS, but this game has been oddly slow for the nature of the setup, imo.
I really do wish there was more substance to his posts though. Not the only one I feel that way about though.
Feelings mutual, though your last few have been much better.
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As for a POE with reads... well POE anyway, lack of substantive posting by some players make it much more difficult to get a read, which usually defaults to scummy for me:
a1s - few posts and those lack content, eliminating lurkers is usually good D1, and I think this setup favors that ploy by scum... if you can get everyone to forget about you, or even just read you neutral enough, the average daily vote could end up narrowly missing you far into the progression.
Fluffe - same as a1s, but did eventually post something meaningful when pressed, so slightly less
Maximum Spin - argument is pretty much the same as both the above, and Max has done more contributing when pressed, so he gets a lesser spot.
The above players are basically interchangeable. I'd swap a vote to any of them without much argument, at least one is scum, fairly confident of this.
Irony Owl - actual posts with actual content. More would be better, but perfect world and all... Overall, null.
Jim Groovester - quality rises with most posts and gut feeling says less likely scum.
ToonyMan - Mr Conversation starter is helpful. It's enough to make me suspicious, but if Toony is scum, we are hosed. He's too much all over this, and posts are good. If I had proof he was scum, I'm not sure I could get anyone to believe it... hell, I'm not sure I would believe it.
FallacyofUrist - differences of playstyle aside, I've got good feeling here. Basically the same slot as Toony, without the apprehension.
zemaj - just using this space to comment on how weird it is that people include themselves in their reads. Self-vote is pretty much the lowest form of AtE.