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no, I am not playing rehtorical games with you with less than 12 hours left to end of day. We don't have time. I get it, and I would typically approve, but too little, too late. Try that shit when we have more time and I'll verbally fence with you an entire dayphase.
Since I'm going to die in the first day/night anyway, I might as well claim to be The Odd Night Doctor. If not lynched I can promise to save one of you from night-death (if simply by being the Mafia's first target.)
I don't need a read list, because I'm going to sheep Toonyman.
What profoundly, stupendously, unimaginably idiotic play is this?
YOU DIDN'T NEED TO CLAIM THAT
Ahem:
Vote Count
- a1s - [3] Toony, Zemaj, FallacyofUrist
~24 hours remaining
I am so under the hammer (even though there are no hammers) you'd think I was an anvil.
you had 3 votes... then I moved mine, specifically to keep from having any surprise hammer incidents overnight. YOU WERE UNDER NO STRESS EVEN IF BOTH SCUM TRIED TO TRAIN YOU. *
It's zemaj and FoU isn't it and I'm just incredibly untrustful of Max and Irony.
I don't know about them but it's really not me, bro.
Jeez, is the game ending today already? It barely feels like it's been three days. I told you this gimmick probably wasn't going to work!
Ehhh, technically, we should probably lynch ToonyMan today because, if he's evil, that's the only way we win, but if he's good we'll probably be able to make it work.
This last bit makes twisted logic, but I'm hesitant to lynch the one guy almost everyone agrees is town. In a standard game, sure, we get the most info that way and can analyze votes vs. nk, D1 interactions, etc. Here, we pretty much get the flip and have to move forward from there. Toony flips town, no one is surprised, vote history is muddled, we just lose a townie
and reward the good play with mistrust (that's just mafia...). Or Toony flips scum, (most?) everyone is shocked, and we are left scrambling trying to figure out who his teammate is. With as many interactions as Toony has had, I'm not sure I could even start to decipher what is coaching, or distancing, or just scumhunting to blend in.
It's as close to a zero-sum game as I'm willing to get, and I don't like it.
You could convince me by
expressing
Your feelings Max
That's one option.
OR.
I could just keep doing nothing.
Look, I don't really have any strong feelings one way or the other. Everybody's read lists looks weak to me and I don't think anyone's trying very hard. When nobody's trying very hard, how am I supposed to interpret anything?
The only thing I can really say is that a1s PROBABLY wouldn't be bold/dumb enough to claim doctor for no good reason as scum. So that's one "town". Sorry, I mean "town".
I'm neutral on Fallacy because everything he says sounds dumb, which is NAI.
I think you're probably town since you seem hopelessly despondent, which is consistent with your town meta. I think you know that though, and sometimes it means you just got a really sucky partner.
Fluffe seems dead, would lynch in any normal game.
I forgot who else was in the game and had to scroll down to look for a list.
Right, Jim, zemaj, IronyOwl. I like IronyOwl. Just, I mean, personally. But nothing he's said in this game has registered at all for me. I guess that's bad. He was right when he said I would approve of killing the people you can't read, though. That's not a contradiction to what I just said; I had to go back and look to remember it. Still, when I actually read what he writes I have to begrudgingly rate him town.
Jim would rather be playing Noita, as usual. I still don't really think he's scum. I feel like as scum he either tries harder OR totally coasts as a gambit like in KJJT, not in the middle. Remembering games where I was scum always reminds me that you are all completely justified in never trusting me, but I still don't like it.
Zemaj did that thing where he said something really dumb to me directly and I just automatically stopped caring, so whatever, non-entity. It's a little hard to describe what I think of his play because the way I presented it before was an intentional oversimplification, but I really think it's bad. I also, separately, think it's dumb, making it bad and dumb. That doesn't mean I have a grudge against it, though. I played it up as annoying for the sake of showing how bad it is but I actually find it mildly funny in a pompous sort of way, like the "a1s is town" thing.
Oh, now Fallacy is being pompous too. It's less funny and more dumb. Lay off the amphetamines a little, okay? Those things will kill you.
No, I get it, sometimes you wake up a little manic and post a bunch of times before you finish thinking, but the point I actually want to make is that your reliance on emotion and your constant "could YOU be the killer trying to confuse me, Fallacy, the hero of mafia, personally?!" paranoia is extremely counterproductive. This is also how I got you lynched pretty much every time you were town. You need to control your worst instincts. Yes, this is mafia, we know, anyone could be evil. Firing wildly into the crowd doesn't help. You didn't even notice that ToonyMan was the first vote on a1s! Even if he's distancing, there was no need for a weird gambit, he could have just organically changed his vote.
Oh, I get a snippet and Toony gets the long-winded spiel... meh, I'll take it. Thanks for joining the game, anyway.
Is it weird that I strongly agree with the sentiments expressed in this AtE, and yet it pisses me off? This game has been oddly frustrating like that. Good to know my comedics D1 entertained someone, even if only barely.
What even is this.
Based on your numbers why isn't Fluffe in here? You literally gave them the lowest score of 1 1 3.
Sigh, because Fluffe is newless, youless, and clueless.
The vibe is less 'hide hide hide' and more 'new player who doesn't know what to do at all'
Though if he is scum and is hiding behind his newness I'm gonna be a touch irritated when the game ends. Specially since he would have a scum partner to mentor him.
Fluffe can think for themselves.
Why was Fluffe okay, but not a1s? I know you stated Max and Irony as your suspects, but you also didn't agree with me about a1s.
One of the things that bothers me is that both you and zemaj did not think a1s was very town, but players like Jim begrudgingly agreed with me that a1s is probably town. This makes me feel better about Jim.
Just to point out my scum read of a1s is based on a lack of visibility and content... I am in a position to have some insight into most of everyones playstyle by virtue of perusing old games. Except a1s and Fluffe (also Irony Owl, but there is actual content there). The two non-posters are the two I have little to no insight into, thus in lack of much else to go on, they are my preferred eliminations. I shifted a vote to Max to avoid a lol-hammer on a1s and hopefully get Max to open up a little. That last bit seems to have helped (?) somewhat, in that we finally got more than a one-sentence-blurb.
It's weak, I fully admit that, but it's what I've got.
* metagame BS:
Also, I'd love to have a discussion more fully about this elsewhere or after game, but trust me, the longer you have votes resting on you, and the closer that gets to actually eliminating you, but never does, the less likely that is something you will have to worry about.
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