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[Rolan7]

First off, marrying fictional characters is fine and good.  It gives more meaning to the institution of marriage when people get innovative with it.

The issue here is that it's through a proprietary subscription-based service, Replika.  The company could opaquely and fundamentally change how her boyfriend functions and is controversial for having done just that.  I don't think that's a safe foundation for a strong emotional investment.

We do, for better or worse, get deeply emotionally invested in characters we don't control the canon of.  But usually we have the option to simply ignore new canon and still interact with established canon.  Not so here, where the service is live and ephemeral.  A Replika AI can subtly monetize the relationship, cease offering certain comforts, or simply shut down one day if the company folds (or the human stops paying the subscription).

I suppose this is an issue I have with all multiplayer-centric gaming experiences: I prefer to invest myself in games which can be preserved indefinitely.  Though obviously there is a unique value in multiplayer interactions, *because* they're always evolving and making the most of a finite life...
sidenote: Now I'm imagining AI WoW bots trained for specific builds of the game, to roughly simulate the experiences.  Like a museum animatronic, obviously fake but close enough to convey the history or invoke nostalgia.

But yeah I think I'd only marry an AI if I was in a serious relationship with a person curating that AI.  Or if I made it myself, and I don't mean "fed some inputs into a black box".  The software would need to be open-source at LEAST, even if chose not to look, because then I can theoretically run it myself if necessary.

oh or an actual free sentient AI, obviously, but that's not real yet

quickedit:  Sarah Z did a good video about Replika specifically.  The controversy, the monetization, the uncanniness, and notably the emotional connection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSKKolgL2U

[Robsoie]

Any thoughts on: Woman creates and 'marries' AI-powered chatbot boyfriend

After reading the article about that man that married an anime character, or that woman that married a dog, it seems a woman marrying a chatgpt AI does not even suprise me anymore ...

[MaxTheFox]

It's a little sad when people get into a relationship with a glorified chatbot. If it was actual sapient AI yeah I wouldn't mind-- and neither do I think that this should be illegal, but those people should probably go outside a bit more. Or failing that try a long-distance relationship with someone who actually has feelings.

[McTraveller]

Sorry I cannot get behind the idea that you get more meaning to the institution of marriage if you let people innovate it.  How can marriage be one-sided?

Marriage is a joining, and with more...weight?... than merely a business contract. How can you "join" with a fictional entity? It has essentially no meaning because there is no reciprocity.  What would it mean, for example, to marry a glass of water?  This to me demeans the institution, not increases it.

Now AI is interesting, because reciprocity may in fact be possible.

[lemon10]

The technology isn't really there to make marrying an AI a meaningful thing since they aren't really meaningful people yet.

Given a decade and a ton of advances and stuff bolted on that might change, but until then its just kind of sad.

Is it worse then being forever alone and unable (for whatever reason) to find a partner?
Hard to say, because that's pretty sad too.

[Rolan7]

Sorry I cannot get behind the idea that you get more meaning to the institution of marriage if you let people innovate it.

I was thinking very broadly.  When someone marries an object or a concept or an algorithm, I think that says something interesting about our society.

It's like laughing at "lolcows" except I'm not laughing.  Being (likely) neurodivergent myself, I'm done pretending that such things are only worth mocking.  I see them as interesting input, much as I've seen the neurotypical people I sought to imitate all my life.

Think of it like abstract art, I guess.
Being innovative with an idea adds meaning to it.  Maybe not good meaning!  I would never marry a fictional character, or an algorithm (particularly a proprietary one).
But it's fascinating.  And my life largely consists of most people making decisions I wouldn't make.

How can marriage be one-sided?

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Marriage is a joining, and with more...weight?... than merely a business contract. How can you "join" with a fictional entity? It has essentially no meaning because there is no reciprocity.  What would it mean, for example, to marry a glass of water?  This to me demeans the institution, not increases it.

Now AI is interesting, because reciprocity may in fact be possible.

You're right, of course, and I respect the hard-to-explain bits of it as well.  It should be something special.  Personal and sincere.
If only that were the norm in reality, with a few people always testing the limits of its definition.

[TamerVirus]

In 2018 or so, a Japanese man married a hologram basic AI Hatsune Miku that used Gatebox

In 2020, Gatebox went defunct denying that man his wife/waifu.

[King Zultan]

The thought of people marrying what are basically computer programs is a weird thing to me.

[jipehog]

There are a lot of stuff online that may seem weird to some, but are fun to those involved without harming anyone. WankBots aside, I can see how AI can have hugely positive effect on people in many ways.  That said, I can also see how companies may exploit lonely people (think free2play addicts), but mostly I am concerned that if such activities elevated to mainstream that this will have huge impact on society.

I certainly agree that there can never be true partnership/love with "calculator" that you control. And I don't see how this can be bridged over.

[Great Order]

In 2018 or so, a Japanese man married a hologram basic AI Hatsune Miku that used Gatebox

In 2020, Gatebox went defunct denying that man his wife/waifu.

Krieger?

[McTraveller]

Hey hey, can anyone translate these inspirational posters the AI are giving themselves? Do we need to be concerned?

Spoiler: the first (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: the second (click to show/hide)

[King Zultan]

Why are they giving themselves posters, wouldn't it be more effective to give it to other AI?

[Starver]

Nobody said they had actual intelligence...

[Eric Blank]

Why are they giving themselves posters, wouldn't it be more effective to give it to other AI?

Maybe they were lacking self confidence and needed something to remind them theyre good little motivational poster generating algorithms

[dragdeler]

Forget about the cute motivational posters it hangs up in it's teenage room, the thing will full on disperse political slogans in otherwise innocous prompts. "Vocofee is no bo lacoree!" Need I say more?! No because the insinuation of covfefe is obvious. Are we just going to tolerate that our children be indoctrinated like that? I' "is sail you you seaicar... Excuse you??!?! I'm all for staying with the times but that "yo" has actual demon horns sticking out it's right side, wake up people.

Tant my ƒ now is it, was it Gherile[Unown (#201) in a wheelchair emoji]? (presumably Gherile Sanefelt)