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Reality, The Universe and the World. Which will save us from AI?

Reality
- 13 (65%)
Universe
- 4 (20%)
The World
- 3 (15%)

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Author Topic: What will save us from AI? Reality, the Universe or The World $ Place your bet.  (Read 49695 times)

eerr

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One thing I don't see mentioned in copyright issues, is exactly how easy it is to make these images.

it takes the computer less than seven minutes and less than twenty bucks worth of power to make one image.

copyright protection is meant for things that take time, effort and learning to produce each unique piece.

But for the ai, it takes no time, no effort, and a few month months to train, to make a hundred non-descript variations of the same prompt.


AI works shouldn't qualify for copyright because the products created, take no real investment in a craft.

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martinuzz

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The Free University of Amsterdam (VU Amsterdam) has started to take arms against a sea of troubles.
When the grades of certain papers were compared to the grades of previous years, researchers noticed a suspicious rise.
They also noticed that the styles of a lot of the papers were eerily similar.

The researchers passed their findings to the exam commission.
Two weeks later, the students were notified that after thourough examination, irregularities were found on such a large scale that the exam commission has no other option than to declare all submitted papers null and void, to safeguard the quality of the bachelor grade. A replacement exam will be offered.

The students got away lucky. Some time later, they were summoned to a meeting with the university director, who informed them that they had committed fraud on a large scale. They were lucky to get a replacement exam.
In the future, using programs such as chatGTP to write your papers, or part of your papers for you can result in fraud charges, expulsion from university and the academic world in general.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2023, 05:59:27 am by martinuzz »
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The Free University of Amsterdam (VU Amsterdam) has started to take arms against a sea of troubles.
When the grades of certain papers were compared to the grades of previous years, researchers noticed a suspicious rise.
They also noticed that the styles of a lot of the papers were eerily similar.

The researchers passed their findings to the exam commission.
Two weeks later, the students were notified that after thourough examination, irregularities were found on such a large scale that the exam commission has no other option than to declare all submitted papers null and void, to safeguard the quality of the bachelor grade. A replacement exam will be offered.

The students got away lucky. Some time later, they were summoned to a meeting with the university director, who informed them that they had committed fraud on a large scale. They were lucky to get a replacement exam.
In the future, using programs such as chatGTP to write your papers, or part of your papers for you can result in fraud charges, expulsion from university and the academic world in general.

And now the students will just be smarter about it. Or ChatGPT will simply improve. An arms race is about to start.

Welp, too bad! Treating students like essay writing machines for decades is now biting them in the ass after the invention of an actual essay writing machine.
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The Free University of Amsterdam (VU Amsterdam) has started to take arms against a sea of troubles.
When the grades of certain papers were compared to the grades of previous years, researchers noticed a suspicious rise.
They also noticed that the styles of a lot of the papers were eerily similar.

The researchers passed their findings to the exam commission.
Two weeks later, the students were notified that after thourough examination, irregularities were found on such a large scale that the exam commission has no other option than to declare all submitted papers null and void, to safeguard the quality of the bachelor grade. A replacement exam will be offered.

The students got away lucky. Some time later, they were summoned to a meeting with the university director, who informed them that they had committed fraud on a large scale. They were lucky to get a replacement exam.
In the future, using programs such as chatGTP to write your papers, or part of your papers for you can result in fraud charges, expulsion from university and the academic world in general.
"Your papers were all better than expected and it looks like you all learned to write the same way. MUST BE FRAUD."
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dragdeler

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Why? Didn't they manage to write a single paragraph that didn't end with "however it is important to acknowledge...blah"??? And how would that warrant higher grades? Chatgpt's ductus is extremly repetitive, easily recognized by it's pathetic attempts to "balance" every statement, because openAI is so goddamn afraid of being branded as another MS Tay.

Really? Everbody or at least more than half cheated, so that they have to offer a new exam in order to save their own appareances, because it would have been too much to fail "only" the cheaters? Like really????? Scrupulous students were such a tiny minority in comparison? Or EVERYBODY used chatgpt... REEEEAAAAALLY?

I say there is a non zero chance somebody ran one of those stupid tools that also found that the declaration of independence was in all likelyhood written by AI. That would be peak projection.


They should consider themselves lucky I wasn't in that meeting. If I could speak with confidence that my paper wasn't written by AI yet I was being lumped in with the others... and forced to take a second one... no way I wouldn't have unpacked my unique brand of autistic tantrum with burnout no consideration for my bodily integrity. That director would never have been insulted so much and so loud in his whole life, first start by being factual then devolve into screaming swearwords, praying that somebody picks me up on my open invitation to a duel to the death. Hehe... I'd never have made to the end of the year anyway.




edit: As to the styles being eerily similar: well for one I doubt they weren't railroaded towards writing in a certain way, but more importantly there are more benign explanations, grammarly for example. Like really I simply cannot believe it. The free version of chatpgpt doesn't do sources, needs to be factchecked, writes in a manner so repetitive that is actually futile to specify the length of the answer. Sounds like writing a paper with extra steps. Who knows, maybe I'm just paranoid and the students have insane solidarity and cohesion despite being the age group most heavily affected by the corona crisis and the isolation that brought with itself.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2023, 01:49:28 pm by dragdeler »
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I understand that life and the world are hard, unfair and sad.
Fortunately, the AI can make motivational posters to help you
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martinuzz

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Only 1/4th of the students signed a letter of appeal to the exam commission, which makes it reasonable to suspect that a majority of the students was fraudulent.
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This is just gonna lead to everyone having to hand write their exams in the future.
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Every technology of this scale has caused widespread inconvenience and upheaval for at least a decade before things settled down, so that checks out lol.
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This is just gonna lead to everyone having to hand write their exams in the future.
...how progressive and advanced my schools must have been. I had to do this every time, from age 9(?<) to my early 20s.
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martinuzz

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Imagine the horror that being able to read and write would become a prerequisite for going to university again! It would be barbaric!
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MaxTheFox

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Also yeah lol here in school all exams were written. Not in uni, but still.
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It would be barbaric!
Especially if they have to write in CURSIVE!
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Also yeah lol here in school all exams were written. Not in uni, but still.
For actual exams (not necessarily full on practical coding, as in coursework/project elements, but the obligatory "..and now you have just two-and-a-half hours to demonstrate that this particuar part of the course was taught to you well enough") even my actual university CSc elements were ultimately written.

Writing search algorithms, linked-list implementations, networking protocol header analysis, following a hypothetical microcoding example through an on-paper CPU abstraction, discussion of the differences between a choice of medium-to-high level languages, some basic electrical engineering, data compression methodology, bitwise error-detection/-correction schema, symbolic grammar parsing, finite state recognisers, ...etc. It has been actual decades since, but that list seems roughly (unstructuredly, as I drag random recollections from my hindebrain) representative of topics my pen had to scribble down words, diagrams or multi-choice answerbox ticks for. Probably forgotten some things, or misattributed elememts only asked in 'practice' exercises/post-lecture worksheets. I should dig up my actual textbooks from the era. The computing ones might be more dated than the physics ones, however...
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