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[lemon10]

Based on what? According to Tesla data, using accident per X million miles driven metric: Tesla car are 8 times safer than the average, and become FAR less safer when autopilot is disengaged:

SAN FRANCISCO — Tesla vehicles running its Autopilot software have been involved in 273 reported crashes over roughly the past year, according to regulators, far more than previously known and providing concrete evidence regarding the real-world performance of its futuristic features.
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Tesla‘s vehicles have been found to shut off the advanced driver-assistance system, Autopilot, around one second before impact, according to the regulators.

So yes, if you let Tesla blame all its autopilot crashes on humans then its very easy to reach the conclusion that Tesla autopilot is actually safer then said humans.

Btw China already operates 100% self-driving cabs services. And the biggest barrier seem to be the usual cost and regulation.

Huh. Very interesting to hear.

[King Zultan]

You can't blame the autopilot for the wreck if it turns itself off right before i happens!

[MaxTheFox]

AI art will make artists in less of a demand but I highly doubt the profession will die. In any case meh, I would never pay for art anyways. I don't have a horse in this race so I support AI because I get all the art I want.

Voice acting will likely die out completely however, and there's nothing anyone can do at this point. Unfortunate but that's life.

As for LLMs, there already are opensource alternatives, anti-scraping laws can't do anything now, so I'm glad for that. I want AI to kill as many jobs as possible to possibly force the government to push for larger social nets because it fits my agenda of socialism. If voice acting gets thrown under the bus and artistry gets downsized, so be it honestly. Nothing is stopping anyone from drawing as a hobby.

I don't really have a solution for higher-income jobs like advanced programmers or radiologists. I suppose they will just have to live with UBI. Sucks for them I suppose.

tl;dr there is a problem but this problem might damage capitalism so I want to accelerate it. The faster it runs its course the shorter the upheaval period we're facing now (e.g the war on AI art, ChatGPT legislation, etc) lasts.

Note: I'm drunk.

[Bralbaard]

Just keep in mind that there is no system in place where AI will magically dissolve capitalism. The chance for a more distopian future certainly exists, especially because AI is being mainly created by powerful corporate companies. If people get free art and content they may just accept larger inequality in society and fail to see the consequences.

[MaxTheFox]

Yeah there's a risk (and I'm willing to take it)-- but consider that open-source AI is on the rise and is beginning to rival corporate models such as ChatGPT.

Smaller companies and private individuals can also use AI. It is, in the end, an equalizer. You need less manpower to create the same amount of information for whatever purposes. This is why I don't support AI regulations: the corps will ignore them anyways, secretly or not, and small business and independents will get fucked over.

[jipehog]

So yes, if you let Tesla blame all its autopilot crashes on humans then its very easy to reach the conclusion that Tesla autopilot is actually safer then said humans.

Does the article says that Tesla doing this or is that your speculation? Also any new data to support your initial claim that autonomous cars are less safe then cars driven by people.

Btw does anyone have any thought to AI contribution to traffic management infrastructure? I think it could be huge. Imagine that instead of sitting in traffic jam on the way to and later back work looking at the many empty lanes in the opposite directions autonomous cars would be able to utilize all lanes all the time, using things which are common in networking like throughput shaping.

[jipehog]

A computer isn't alive, its a tool you feed data input which it process. If the data used is unlicensed/copyrighted that is a problem, especially if you are trying to make money out of it(yet another problem, who hold the copyright?). Since AI is relatively new there are still ongoing debate about various aspects related to it, but there are already lawsuits underway to clear the way. Furthermore it has led big companies to change their term of use and restrict API use requiring money for what was preciously free.

Personally, I support expanding IP frameworks to address the problem posed by AI.

That is not how copyright law works. There is currently no problem. The relevant copyright law is already well-established. There's no legal bearing to saying "a computer isn't alive"; it's just perfectly irrelevant. You can read the actual state of international copyright law on the subject of derivative works, if you like, instead of pontificating.

ETA: If it helps, one key relevant doctrine you could read about is called "fair use".

Contrary to your pontification about whether there is a problem, what is well-established and what laws actually say. These opinion are already challenged in court, and according to the Congressional research service there may be a need to clarify "whether AI-generated works are copyrightable, who should be considered the author of such works, or when the process of training generative AI programs constitutes fair use."

Regardless, I fully support exploring and expanding IP frameworks (not necessary under copyright) and any other measure (through terms of use etc) to address the problems posed by AI.

[King Zultan]

Voice acting will likely die out completely however, and there's nothing anyone can do at this point. Unfortunate but that's life.

I don't see this happening, AI generated speech is terrible and until they fix it I doubt it's gonna replace voice acting.

[Strongpoint]

And I don't see it being fixed to the point of being able to express emotions any time soon. Art is there to stay, cheap mass-product on the other hand...

Dance music, simple erotic\porn material, assets for indy PC games, etc.  - those will receive some serious competition.

[McTraveller]

Huh, I could've sworn I replied to this - I agree that AI won't destroy all "artistic" jobs, same as mass production didn't destroy all crafting professions.

You will just need to find a niche for higher-priced, artisanal hand-crafted goods.

[jipehog]

The rate things are progressing is amazing. It's like they take the plunge from brick cellpones to today in just a years time.

[MaxTheFox]

Voice acting will likely die out completely however, and there's nothing anyone can do at this point. Unfortunate but that's life.

I don't see this happening, AI generated speech is terrible and until they fix it I doubt it's gonna replace voice acting.

You're thinking of TTS. AI voice is actually pretty good. Not perfect but soon.

But have you seen those "presidents react to X" memes? They're AI-made.

[King Zultan]

Voice acting will likely die out completely however, and there's nothing anyone can do at this point. Unfortunate but that's life.

I don't see this happening, AI generated speech is terrible and until they fix it I doubt it's gonna replace voice acting.

You're thinking of TTS. AI voice is actually pretty good. Not perfect but soon.

But have you seen those "presidents react to X" memes? They're AI-made.

I have heard the AI generated voices and they are terrible, they aren't smooth, they're grainy, and they can't do emotion, as far as I can tell they aren't really that much better than text to speech, except for the ability to somewhat sound like the person they're supposed to represent. So if they can't even replicate a person using their own voice I don't seem being able to make a new voice from scratch anytime soon.

[MaxTheFox]

See the reason I think this way is that voice has less dimensions in it than art does. There's only so much you can do with expressing a voice. As soon as it imitating emotion is solved, RIP.

[jipehog]

I have heard the AI generated voices and they are terrible, they aren't smooth, they're grainy, and they can't do emotion, as far as I can tell they aren't really that much better than text to speech

When did you last checked? Seem pretty good to me for example:
Lovo Tutorial For Beginners | Lovo.AI
AI Voice Overs For Your Project
Eminem - Cat Rap


Also there are already services where you can add emotes and that just user friendly commercial stuff, and things are moving pretty fast quickly outpacing our jokes about how AI is unable to place chopsticks correctly.

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