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[notquitethere]

Setups without claim space may as well be Mountainous.

This we can agree on. The first step to fix this setup would be to get each player to submit 3 roles and give them 2, to give plenty of wiggle room for fake claims.

[webadict]

This game was brought to you by the letter K, for King and Kill Me, Kan The Anti-Jester Win?

[webadict]

Setups without claim space may as well be Mountainous.

This we can agree on. The first step to fix this setup would be to get each player to submit 3 roles and give them 2, to give plenty of wiggle room for fake claims.

This setup could've been better with a lot of decision, but we are here now, this is our life, and the only way to stop it is by voting me.

[notquitethere]

Fluffe must be the anti-Jester, as the last claimant. Fallacy and Web must know that he fakeclaimed (or maybe Fallacy really has hidden and doesn't know about one of the elements), Zemaj is a janitor and doesn't know it because he can't discern the flavour.

Also I just realised it's also the janitor that makes this a bastard: hoping for flip info is pointless when the janitor is cleaning away bodies.

[webadict]

See?  NQT has no care for the Anti-Jester!  What a harsh reality we live in!

[ToonyMan]

Hat

Hats...hats.....hate.....haatatatsta

HATS HATS HATS HATSHATS HATSHEHATESITHATSHATSHATSHATS HATS HATS

MORE HATS MORE MORE HEADWEAR

Hats protect from the sun

Protect from the cold

Toony nedd hats

[TricMagic]

I think I am no good at role madness games like this. Bring 1 will at least benefit, I suppose. If I even run it after this.

[zemaj]

wow....

so yeah... totally called this.  Mass-claim D1?  Ridiculous...

[ToonyMan]

NQT think big. NQT no be able to wear hats with head so big

[notquitethere]

Once again, I'm the boring stick-to-my-stated-wincon guy. Ugh, what a role to fill.

(No more zany open setups, Bay12 forum has progressed beyond the need for it.)

[FallacyofUrist]

Must, fight, hats -

Neeed hatssssss

NQt have hats to give. Kill NQT. Take hats.


Aside - good setup design requires that a massclaim be both uncertain - the scum need space to hide - and costly for the town. It needs to be something with benefits and drawbacks for both sides.

Highly benefits the town and hurts the scum is unbalanced. Highly benefits the scum and hurts the town is suitable for a bastard or complex closed setup game. The rest should be somewhere in the middle.

[Jim Groovester]

I'm glad my decision to not think about this game very hard has been vindicated.

[webadict]

Jester Hats For All!

Okay, technically for one, but we all get to bask in the holy Anti-Jester light

I'm glad my decision to not think about this game very hard has been vindicated.

Thinking is for chumps!

[notquitethere]

I'm glad my decision to not think about this game very hard has been vindicated.

I made a spreadsheet 

[zemaj]

I think I am no good at role madness games like this. Bring 1 will at least benefit, I suppose. If I even run it after this.

(No more zany open setups, Bay12 forum has progressed beyond the need for it.)

I played with a group that had a 'No D1 claims' rule.  It didn't work well, usually, but this game may have benefited from something like that.  Need to have a way to make it so that open-setup cannot just be hacked/broken by over-sharing info and PoE.  "Players can claim no more than 1 role (per day?)" might work