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[zemaj]

... Fucking...

So dumb.

Fine.  Let's do the dumb plan where we claim everything, on the condition that we immediately vote.  And probably vote zemaj at that.

I'm the Fruit Festival.  I'm also the Dark Creature.  I refuse to claim my third role, because I'm not entirely sure what it is.

... I R disappoint, webadict...

*sigh*  Thunderdome it is, then.  You really should have read my soft-claim better... or maybe lied about your other role?

Also Arsonist fwiw & assumeably a third, but Tric isn't answering my prods for clarification.

[zemaj]

and as I read that, it occurs to me how that may have been webadict's best play... he is known, I am unknown.  He has good-faith based on long-standing.  I'm just coming off a scum-win as my introductory game.  Not sure what long-game was here, after I flip he's outed, but here we are...

[webadict]

Are you fucking with me, or is this one of those weird scumplays?

[ToonyMan]

Somebody should have the False modifer and not actually know their real role. I assume this will become apparent if everyone claimed.

[FallacyofUrist]

I am the Enchantress.

There's... no sign of any other roles I have access to.

I must assume I either have the Hidden or the False, consequently.

[zemaj]

Are you fucking with me, or is this one of those weird scumplays?

Serious like an infarction.  Only in that I think this play by you is very weird, and it instantly make me suspect you as scum.

Somebody should have the False modifer and not actually know their real role. I assume this will become apparent if everyone claimed.

I'm sorry, is this to deescalate?  I'm pretty sure that's not how this is going to work... but I'm listening if you are proposing something

[webadict]

Okay, let's play a different game here:

If I'm lying, does that make me scum?

[zemaj]

Okay, let's play a different game here:

If I'm lying, does that make me scum?

Intrinsically?  No.  It does mean that you are not playing in the town's best interest by lying in-thread, though.  As such, I am disinclined to believe you.  But sell me on it.  I'll listen.

[notquitethere]

You said you soft-claimed Zemaj. Maybe you were very subtle, but I'm not seeing it.

[webadict]

Okay, let's play a different game here:

If I'm lying, does that make me scum?

Intrinsically?  No.  It does mean that you are not playing in the town's best interest by lying in-thread, though.  As such, I am disinclined to believe you.  But sell me on it.  I'll listen.

No, you're jumping ahead a bit, let's wait just a second.

Next question:

If I'm not lying, does that make me scum?

[zemaj]

You said you soft-claimed Zemaj. Maybe you were very subtle, but I'm not seeing it.

Really?  I thought you got it right away... that was the bit about food allergies... look at the list of PRs, I think its a good connection.   Subtle, maybe even easy to miss.  Hence, a good soft-claim, imo.

Okay, let's play a different game here:

If I'm lying, does that make me scum?

Intrinsically?  No.  It does mean that you are not playing in the town's best interest by lying in-thread, though.  As such, I am disinclined to believe you.  But sell me on it.  I'll listen.

No, you're jumping ahead a bit, let's wait just a second.

Next question:

If I'm not lying, does that make me scum?

So I can only answer your questions with the answers you want me to use?  Then I don't play that game.  How about you stop trying to get me to say what you want me to say and just state what you are getting at?

[webadict]

If lying doesn't necessarily make me scum, and not lying definitely doesn't make me scum, then why are you instantly assuming that I'm scum?

[Maximum Spin]

zemaj
It doesn't really matter if you are scum because you claimed fruit festival anyway.

[zemaj]

If lying doesn't necessarily make me scum, and not lying definitely doesn't make me scum, then why are you instantly assuming that I'm scum?

You claimed my role, after I soft-claimed, and then dropped a vote on me.  On top of also claiming the second most sus role in the list.

Maybe I'm just used to a more subtle and aggressive game, but the counter-claim w/ attendant vote is a straight-up call out, at least in every other group I've played with.

I have no reason from what I have so far seen to believe Tric is just fucking with us, and you are claiming the role from my PM.  Yes, I'm on that.  Would you not, were positions reversed?

[FallacyofUrist]

Tric... did pretty much state that this is a bastard game.

Was it ever explicitly stated that there would be no duplicate roles assigned?