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[Criptfeind]

Sure. I can do a turn like this. Here's my stab at a at least somewhat organized turn.

Population: 10,000 (+10 Labor)
Labor Pool: 0
City Buildings: NA
Technology: Praise the Sun
Stocks: 10 labor 2 wood
Moral: 5

Work:
1 Hills: +1 Food +1 Wool -1 Labor
4 River Forest: +2 Food +1 Wood -1 Labor
5 River Plains: +3 Food -1 Labor
12 River Forest: +2 Food +1 Wood -1 Labor
13 River Forest: +2 Food +1 Wood -1 Labor

Stocks: 5 labor 10 food 1 Wool 5 Wood

Construct:
Shrine: -2 Wood -2 Labor +200 labor pool
Hall of Learning: -2 Wood -2 Labor +200 labor pool

Craft:
1 Clothing: -1 Wool +1 Clothing +100 labor pool

Stocks: 10 food 1 Wood 1 Clothing

Consume&Moral:
Population consumes 10 food
Population consumes 1 clothing for +1 moral
Population utilizes 1 spiritual luxury for +1 moral
Governor bonus gives +1 moral

Civilian moral is 8

Population growth: 7%(I'm not sure if you wanted us to do this part or for you to calculate it)
Population: 10700
Labor pool: 500+700=1200

Military:
NA

Status:
Population: 10700
Labor Pool: 1200
City Buildings: Shrine. Hall of Learning
Technology: Praise the Sun
Stocks: 1 wood
Moral: 8

[Toaster]

How much are you expecting in a turn?  Like, I had split up my labor ahead of time

Spoiler: Like so (turn orders here) (click to show/hide)

T1   10 labor

1 mushroom pit      +3 food, +1 stone
1 mushroom farm      +2 food, +1 wool
1 River Hill      +2 food, +1 wool
1 hill            +1 food, +1 wool
1 hill            +1 food, +1 wool
1 hill            +1 food, +1 wool

1 clothing maker   -1 wool, +1 clothing

3 mushroom farm      tile 3

...but if you want a big meaty block of text like above I can do that as well.

[Criptfeind]

That said, I think we might benefit from another thread specifically for turn posts to make sure that relevant mechanical information for making turns is uncluttered by conversations and give the other players a good start where all their information is all in the same place for when they are considering their turn, although it depends on how you feel about such things. Also is there a turn format in particular that you want us to post in? Anything that we make sure to include in our turns? I tried to do a long form turn there that covers all bases but I could do a turn order as short as "Work: 1 4 5 12 13. Make: Shrine, Hall of learning, 1 Clothing. Consume: 1 Clothing" which arguably gets across all the relevant information. And obviously there's a lot of middle ground between those two.

[Nirur Torir]

Something like Toaster's is enough, I don't want to scare anyone away, but a long form like Cripfeind's is preferred. It cuts down from errors on my end, makes turns easier to run, and makes sure we're both on the same page with exactly what you want done.

For example, I assume Toaster wants to immediately use the clothes he's making. That's easy enough. But what if he had something more rare, and wanted to save it until he could get enough morale to boost production for a turn? I'd have to either go back and fix the turn later, or if I didn't notice before writing it up, delay the turn to ask.

New population doesn't get added into the bonus labor pool immediately, the turn order reference will be updated to show this. It will also show that the bonus production from morale uses the end of last turn's morale.

Game thread coming soon.

[IronyOwl]

Are buildings usable on the same turn they're produced?

[Egan_BW]

Spoiler: Starting position (click to show/hide)

Basic Info
Population: 10,000
Labor Bonus: 0
Labor: 10
Morale: 5 (4% growth)
Green is Strong: +15% melee attack damage.
Green is Friend: +20% money generated from trade, Trade Good production doubled when researched.

Buildings/Improvements
none

Stores:
Wood: 1/20
Stone: 1/20

Leaders:
Big Man Ferum, Explorer (Attached units explore at double speed)

Units:

Research Tree: (bold= researched)
Agriculture
Animal Taming
Archery
Ceremonial Burial
Exploration
Primitive Pottery
Town Planning
Trade


Laborers get resources
Trickle resources, like Trade's effects
Laborers do tasks that use resources
Bonus labor pool increases
Population eats and uses luxuries
Civilian morale changes
Population grows
Military trained

Disasters rolled and declared
Military moves
Military fights
Military raids, explores, and resolves military events
Civilian morale changes from military and disasters
Other disaster effects, like destroyed stockpiles
Other stockpile changes, like trade.
Morale productivity bonus calculated for next turn

Turn being worked on. Pretty sure I didn't forget anything but if I did it can be re-added easily enough.

[Nirur Torir]

Are buildings usable on the same turn they're produced?

Generally no, but I'll allow storage buildings to be used immediately.

Clothes, you can start distributing as they're made. Spears, you can rotate who's practicing with the first ones. An incomplete windmill, not so much.

[Toaster]

Something like Toaster's is enough, I don't want to scare anyone away, but a long form like Cripfeind's is preferred. It cuts down from errors on my end, makes turns easier to run, and makes sure we're both on the same page with exactly what you want done.

For example, I assume Toaster wants to immediately use the clothes he's making. That's easy enough. But what if he had something more rare, and wanted to save it until he could get enough morale to boost production for a turn? I'd have to either go back and fix the turn later, or if I didn't notice before writing it up, delay the turn to ask.

Cool.  I'm fully on board with a fuller post- I just wanted my intent out already to cover the "don't study everyone else's turn before posting yours" bits.  I'll either do a fuller block or maybe start quoting existing status blocks.   (And fluff!)

[crazyabe]

Bah if your windmill isn’t quite done that just leaves it as a manual mill.

[Toaster]

I guess that makes it a...

...wind-mill.

[Egan_BW]

Makes labor plan, sees that it is good, writes flavor text.

Realizes that I'm spending 3 labor to have a surplus of 5 food as a luxury, when I could use 2 labor to make a shrine and have +1 luxury PERMANENTLY.

huh guess I'll have to rewrite this shit.

[Egan_BW]

Spoiled for size, feel free to peek.

Spoiler: action! (click to show/hide)

Explorer Leader is named: Big Man Ferun.
A huge number of citizens gather into the Grugun Agora; all adult Grug who are able to and care to attend. The day's agenda is unspoken, but obvious: to pick a leader for the Tribeship, to organize the hordes of Gruggi for labor and for war.
Those who wish to try their luck plead their cases to the crowd, but in the end one gets louder shouts than the others and is declared the Big Man. Ferun is a proven survivalist and practical living legend among Gruggi, and deemed the best choice for taming the savage wilds surrounding Grugunnium.

Irrigate 16 (River Hills). (2 labor used.)
Having recently discovered this "Agriculture" thing, many Gruggi work enthusiastically to improve their yield, using their big muscles to excavate trenches and water gardens. They start up in the foothills where the river first bursts from the mountain rocks, mainly because the sheep there are cute and make the hard labor more bearable.

Work 16 (Irrigated River Hills). (Food now 3, Wool now 1.) (3 Labor used.)
The foothills were once a region uninhabited by Gruggi, who preferred the jungle and wild foods. But agriculture and the improvement project has made these hills greatly more attractive, and soon a village pops up, farming and loosely herding the sheep. Bundles of wool are rolled over the fields into Grugunnium, often in exchange for foodstuffs juicier than mere bread. The village here is named 'Linda', for some reason.

Work 15 (River Fields). (Food 6.) (4 Labor.)
Work 5 (River Fields). (Food 9.) (5 Labor.)
The fields around the winding river are productive, but unpopular, as farming is tedious and unfun. Gruggi take to drawing straws each month to determine who must work the fields and who has the leisure of gathering in the forests. There is much grumbling, but the extra bread doesn't go unwanted. Workers in the river-fields tend to camp out just west of Grugunnium, so as to retain access to the city and its services.

Work 3 (Woods). (Food 10, Wood 2.) (6 Labor.)
These are the areas most loved by Gruggi, and make for pleasurable work shifts. Tasty berries and juicy bugs abound. Gruggi will often rip up small trees out of the ground to drag back to the city, but mainly they focus on relaxing.

Work 17 (Mountain). (Stone 2.) (7 Labor.)
A few Lindan Gruggi make the journey up the mountain to find big rocks. These aren't very useful, but it's fun to show off and lift heavy stones. Some of them find their way back to Grugunnium for use as building material.

Build Shrine (City). (Wood 1, Stone 1.) (9 Labor.)
There is no Grug god. They can't remember ever worshipping. But they do know that a lack of favor with up high won't do when they're founding a city, so a makeshift shrine of trees and rocks is erected near the middle of the city. Half-remembered rituals and praise for foreign gods are preformed here, in hopes of finding, or perhaps making, a patron of good fortune.

Make Clothes (City). (Wool 0, Clothes 1.) (10 Labor)
Relatively few Gruggi stay in the city, winding wool into textiles in a labor intensive process. Not helped by thick fingers and a lack of patience! The resulting garments are highly sought after for protection from the elements when working the fields.

No Bonus Labor increase.
A few long-bearded philosophers speculate as to Gruggus's population. By counting the original founding families and doing some questionable 'math', they conclude that the number is exactly ten tens of tens of tens. This is, of course, absurd.

Labor eats 10 food. (Food now 0.)
Hard works takes a lot of food. What little food is left over is saved for a feast when the Gruggi assemble for a vote. Voting is also hard work, after all.

1.0 Clothing consumed as Luxury. (Clothing now 0.)
A few fashions show up among the more well-to-do Gruggi, who are able to obtain good foods to trade. Mainly they seem interested in looking more like cute sheep. Still, the people are content.

Morale changed to 6.

Population increases to 10,500.
A migratory family of Gruggi arrive in Gruggus lands and decide to settle down. There is much debate in the Agora as to grant these newcomers citizenship, residence, or even attempt to enslave them. In the end the settlement is unclear. But the migrants aren't going anywhere.

Train unarmed unit. Name: Ferum's Bantums. Attached to Big Man Ferum. (Civilian population now 10,400)
Conscious of the fact that he was elected to tame the wilds, Ferum sets out hand-picking a legion of fine lads and lasses fit to brave the wilds. He doesn't push too hard to obtain weapons, perhaps in the assumption that Grugan fists are enough to defeat most things anyways.

Spoiler: Gruggus (click to show/hide)

Basic Info
Population: 10,400
Labor Bonus: 0
Labor: 10
Morale: 6 (5% growth)
Green is Strong: +15% melee attack damage.
Green is Friend: +20% money generated from trade, Trade Good production doubled when researched.

Buildings/Improvements
Shrine (City): +1 Spirituality.
Irrigation (16): +1 Food when worked.

Stores:
Food: 0/0
Wood: 1/20
Stone: 1/20
Wool: 0/20
Clothes: 0/20
Spirituality: 0/20

Leaders:
Big Man Ferum, Explorer (Attached units explore at double speed)

Units:
Ferum's Bantums (Attached to Big Man Ferum.)

Research Tree: (green= researched)
Agriculture
Animal Taming
Archery
Ceremonial Burial
Exploration
Primitive Pottery
Town Planning
Trade


Laborers get resources
Trickle resources, like Trade's effects
Laborers do tasks that use resources
Bonus labor pool increases
Population eats and uses luxuries
Civilian morale changes
Population grows
Military trained

Disasters rolled and declared
Military moves
Military fights
Military raids, explores, and resolves military events
Civilian morale changes from military and disasters
Other disaster effects, like destroyed stockpiles
Other stockpile changes, like trade.
Morale productivity bonus calculated for next turn

Hope this doesn't hit the character limit. I'll likely have less flavor text to add in the future, but it's a fun challenge to add it for each item for now.

[Egan_BW]

Are buildings usable on the same turn they're produced?

Generally no, but I'll allow storage buildings to be used immediately.

Clothes, you can start distributing as they're made. Spears, you can rotate who's practicing with the first ones. An incomplete windmill, not so much.

Oh right, that means no spirituality income for me yet. I'll change that.
You too, cryptfriend.

[Criptfeind]

Right. Can we get a confirmation on if shrines do or don't function the turn they are made? I wasn't sure but I figured that you wouldn't be able to do labor in buildings your building that turn because of order of operations, but wasn't sure since the shrine doesn't seem to take labor and the consumption of luxury goods and changing of moral seems to happen after or between turns?

Also are you able to use irrigation on the same turn that you make it? Since it doesn't take resources to irrigate, maybe? But unsure and also Toaster did his turn assuming you can't I think.

[Egan_BW]

I guess my brain constructed a memory saying that I get the yield of irrigation the same turn from the fact that I CAN spend wood and stone the same turn I acquire it.

...Based on the turn order, it seems legit because it's a labor action not using any resources.
And based on the turn order, the shrine question is unanswered.

Guess it doesn't matter for me if irrigation works same turn, I'd just send a mountain Grug to woods instead and wind up the same.