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[King Zultan]

First time in a while that I've heard of ISIS doing something, wonder why they went after that music thing of all things.

[Strongpoint]

I remember how Russians were celebrating when Americans left Afghanistan and I was facepalming understanding that it means that Islamism will spread into "stans" of Central Asia and Muslim regions of Russia. This attack looks like the first visible result of that.

And yep I believe that it is a genuine Islamist attack, it is their style.

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Interesting piece of information: On March 9 (a day after the American warning) there was a concert of a Russian neo-nazi patriotic singer Shaman at the same venue.  I think that was the original target but terrorists were spooked and delayed it. A pity... It would be a far less random group of civilians there.

[MaxTheFox]

I remember how Russians were celebrating when Americans left Afghanistan and I was facepalming understanding that it means that Islamism will spread into "stans" of Central Asia and Muslim regions of Russia. This attack looks like the first visible result of that.

And yep I believe that it is a genuine Islamist attack, it is their style.

The Taliban hates ISIS though. They're genuinely at each other's throats.

[Strongpoint]

I remember how Russians were celebrating when Americans left Afghanistan and I was facepalming understanding that it means that Islamism will spread into "stans" of Central Asia and Muslim regions of Russia. This attack looks like the first visible result of that.

And yep I believe that it is a genuine Islamist attack, it is their style.

The Taliban hates ISIS though. They're genuinely at each other's throats.

Doesn't matter. There is no American presence to counter both.

[Cathar]

First time in a while that I've heard of ISIS doing something, wonder why they went after that music thing of all things.

According to them, they targetted specifically a christian concert. Tho music is forbidden in the Haddith if I remember my religious classes correctly, this specific event is simply broadly religiously motivated.

[Strongpoint]

Yay! Everyone is arrested! Tajik terrorists tried to reach the Russian-Ukrainian border to flee to their accomplices from Ukrainian intelligence! Case is solved!!! FSB are super professionals!

[Cathar]

They also completely changed faces and clothes. How did the FSB recognized those shapeshifting men, this is a miracle of a semi religious nature.
Everyone seem to be involved, the SBU, the Mossad, the CIA. The pay of a terrorist : about $5k. So $20K total, which puts the life of a russian to about $100 each.

[Starver]

Just the other day, a radio version of Fahrenheit 451 was repeated over here. Spoiler ( f you just happened to perhaps just to read it/etc yourself, for the first time), but at one point our hero manages to get away from the 'tracking dog' ...thing..., which is being live-broadcast chasing down its quarry as a sop to the masses who are still under the memetic yoke of the authorities and their bread-and-circuses.

So it (with its apparently 'infallible' tracking-and-identification ability) now goes and kills an unsuspecting completely unrelated guy out for a stroll (not a common activity[1], so probably not at all a big loss to the people in power[2]), thus sating the masses via this world's bread-and-circuses ideology.

((Ages since I read the book, and even longer since I saw the film of it, so not quite sure what maybe got abridged out, in this version, or changed away for the cinema. They didn't/couldn't do the 'dog' in the 1960s movie, did they? Probably something more filmable for the time.))

Anyway, due to timing alone, it struck me as a possibly apt parable here (((even before Cathar's own comment, just now)))... (Hopefully, for many, the rest of the plot isn't quite so mirroring of this modern scenario, with a hefty dose of bittersweet downer-ending.)


[1] When all 'right-minded people' (who aren't roving gangs of entitled adolescents, just as likely to kill anyone they don't like the look of) could be sitting in front of/within their wall-sized TVs watching this, the sanctioned entertainments or the news of the third(?) nuclear-armed war being on the brink.

[2] Might even have already been "on a watch list", and chose a bad time to be thinking independently? Hard to know exactly how hyper-competant the invisible regime might be, given their various apparent errors in dealing with the protagonist's under-the-heel/face-turn...

[Strongpoint]

Oh... They cut off the ear of a suspect during an interrogation and posted it in telegram. Russian law enforcement are so... hmm... professional.


If someone would give me a choice between being captured by ISIS with them knowing what I think about their religion and being captured by a random Russian, I would choose ISIS, death will be far less unpleasant

[Lord Shonus]

The United States has called on Kyiv to stop attacks on Russian oil refineries.

The reason - this could lead to an increase in oil prices worldwide, according to sources cited by the Financial Times.

According to one official, the White House is increasingly disappointed by the "brazen attacks" of Ukrainian drones on Russian oil facilities.


Mwuhahahahaha.

I read this as - You can't wage an effective war against your genocidal enemies because gas prices may stop Biden from winning elections.


Meanwhile, ~100 attacked our energy infrastructure this morning. Hello rolling blackouts... I got used to life without you.

Going back to this, the Ukrainian government has explicitly called this out as false.

Mykhailo Podolyak, adviser to the office of Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, said the government has not received calls from the United States asking Ukraine to halt attacks on Russian energy infrastructure.

Podolyak’s comments, forwarded to POLITICO by the office of Ukraine Energy Minister German Galushchenko, were in contrast to earlier reports by the Financial Times that the U.S. had urged the Eastern European nation to refrain from attacks on major energy infrastructure for fear of sending oil prices skyrocketing and prompting retaliation from the Kremlin.

Podolyak in comments first published by RBC-Ukraine called the report of U.S. criticism of the attacks “fake information” and said “Ukraine will destroy fuel infrastructure” in Russia.

[bloop_bleep]

At least it seems they nabbed the right guys.

[Strongpoint]

Trying to intimidate ISIS by posting literal torture of arrested suspects online is a bold strategy.

[EuchreJack]

Trying to intimidate ISIS by posting literal torture of arrested suspects online is a bold strategy.

I would call it lame. ISIS is probably laughing at the FSB.

[lemon10]

Trying to intimidate ISIS by posting literal torture of arrested suspects online is a bold strategy.

They aren't trying to intimidate ISIS. They are sending a message to the Russian people.
They are saying "look how tough we are on terrorists, you can trust us, we will keep you safe no matter what it takes". (An especially important point to note given their earlier intelligence failures).
To those that oppose the current regime they are saying "Look at what we will do to you if you attack the goverment, its better to stay safe and not do anything against us".

[Cathar]

I am reasonably sure they didn't catch the actual terrorists. They just picked some muslims from their prisons and dressed them up.
Torture isn't meant for ISIS, it's a dog and pony show for the domestic population in any case