Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Bumber]

Peace likely means that Russia gets to keep what they stole, emboldening Russia to invade anyone else that is not in Nato.

I don't see Ukraine ever accepting this condition, even if Trump pushes them to.

I guess Ukraine just stalls peace talks until Putin dies of illness?

[Maximum Spin]

It doesn't matter. We, meaning the US, can't afford it. It's not happening.

[Strongpoint]

Currently, as I see it, Biden is For Ukraine, and Trump is Against Ukraine.

Biden is pro-war and Trump is anti-war.

Biden is anti-war, his administration is very focused on avoiding escalation.  Trump is not anti-war, he is just Pro-Russian. If Trump would be in charge now with all that Israel stuff, the US would already be involved in a war with Iran. At the very least, strikes against Iranian proxies would be far more frequent.

Why does Biden still help Ukraine? Because it is in American interests, it is a very cost-efficient way to hurt Russia. But Biden's administration is anything but hawks.

Letting Ukraine bleed so that Russia can bleed isn't entirely pro-Ukraine.

WTH do you mean by "letting Ukraine bleed"? It sounds like you are saying "Ukraine is fighting because American masters told them to." which is frequently used by Russian propaganda. Or do you mean that without American assistance Russia will quickly win and the war will stop?

It is not how it works. Syrian opposition fought for years with no airforce or air defense. Hamas resists Israel for several months and they are basically light infantry with limited supplies. Small Chechnya fought Russia for many months being armed even worse than Hamas. Ukrainian army will become something like that without assistance. Russians will still need to punch through urban areas leveling them to the ground and fighting increasingly desperate Ukrainian units.

Also, Ukraine is quite big. Russia won't be able to occupy all of it quickly. Without Western assistance, we will lose air defense, meaning that our industry will be mostly destroyed but the country will still have enough left to go into total war mode, with total militarization of the economy, war rationing, harsh mobilization, etc. Russia will need years of extremely bloody war to finish.

[Il Palazzo]

WTH do you mean by "letting Ukraine bleed"? It sounds like you are saying "Ukraine is fighting because American masters told them to." which is frequently used by Russian propaganda. Or do you mean that without American assistance Russia will quickly win and the war will stop?

He's saying it's in American interest to weaken Russia by keeping them engaged in a prolonged, costly war. More than having Ukraine win. Hence the support that keeps you going, but not much beyond that.
Not and uncommon view among the crowd with more realpolitik-tinted optics.

[anewaname]

EJ’s a dyed in the wool Republican RINO, brah.

FTFY

[MaxTheFox]

🍿

[Cathar]

Ukrainian army will become something like that without assistance.

I saw an ukrainian Bradley IFV take on a russian T-80 and win, and there's nothing like that fascist piece of junk wailing helplessly before exploding, launching its turret in the startosphere, carbonizing its own crew in the process, to keep you keenly aware that the issue of the war is, to this day, still to be determined.

Also seing the damages that our Césars do on russian hardware makes me proud to pay my taxes for the first time in my life. There's a denazification going on alright, just not the one russia expected.

On and, I heard they are sending Russian youtubers to the frontline, now, which is what you do when you have a large manpower reserve left.

[Strongpoint]

Don't get me wrong, despite my gloomy mood, I am sure that Russia can't win the war in a conventional sense aka occupy much more of Ukraine. They are not stronger than two years ago and we are not weaker.

I am just saying that even in the worst-case scenario, should Western aid disappear, war will not magically stop. On the contrary, it will become bloodier. 

[bloop_bleep]

Zelenskyy appoints former Berkut commander who dispersed Euromaidan crowds to leader position of Territorial Defence.

Extremely suspicious...

EDIT: Article mentions he might have been the only one from Internal Defense ministry willing to negotiate with protestors. Not sure how much or how little that's worth...

[feelotraveller]

Meanwhile Putin is showing Trump how to build a wall and make the opposing nation provide the means.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/30-km-tsar-train-built-by-russians-in-donetsk-using-stolen-cars-deepstate-50391895.html

[Strongpoint]

Zelenskyy appoints former Berkut commander who dispersed Euromaidan crowds to leader position of Territorial Defence.

Extremely suspicious...

EDIT: Article mentions he might have been the only one from Internal Defense ministry willing to negotiate with protestors. Not sure how much or how little that's worth...

It is a politically charged appointment but it is really not a big deal, Zelensky appointed way more controversial guys during his term.

Plakhuta didn't command all of the Internal troops (Who are not Berkut) only the Southern Command and wasn't involved in following criminal orders. Also, December 10 was in the beginning, way before serious violence started. Law enforcement removing tents and barricades in a capital city is not exactly criminal or treasonous.

Also, his last place of work involved training our Special Operations Forces, if he is disloyal then he is in a less harmful position now.

[Strongpoint]

ABC News: "Two sources familiar with deliberations on Capitol Hill said the intelligence has to do with the Russians wanting to put a nuclear weapon into space. This is not to drop a nuclear weapon onto Earth but rather to possibly use against satellites."

Cool! R.I.P. The Outer Space Treaty

[Eric Blank]

I guess the US Space Force will actually have a purpose?

[Egan_BW]

Join the space force, become among the first humans to be killed by a nuclear bomb while in space?

[King Zultan]

Maybe the solution is to nuke space before Russia can?