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Author Topic: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Trollbait 2.0  (Read 103206 times)

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Re: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Trollbait 2.0
« Reply #690 on: June 13, 2023, 01:14:27 am »

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian offensive is slowly crawling forward. So far, there have been no major breakthroughs only a methodical relentless push against enemy fortified positions.

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« Reply #691 on: June 13, 2023, 02:06:56 am »

Nice. And...welp, I mentioned losing a friend over this because they turned out to be a vatnik and discussion got heated. Decided to make one more effort to get back in touch with them since had them on another platform and their response got me sick of it in short order so I ended up being the one to cut ties this time.
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« Reply #692 on: June 13, 2023, 02:33:47 am »

I find It hilarious that vatnik became an international meme. I was there, in the early 2010s, when the original Sponge Bob inspired meme was born.

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« Reply #693 on: June 13, 2023, 02:51:56 am »

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian offensive is slowly crawling forward. So far, there have been no major breakthroughs only a methodical relentless push against enemy fortified positions.
In this case slow and steady wins the war. Some nice gains in Donetsk region, although reportedly Russia blew two more small dams so it might get slowed down (I suspect not, as Ukraine is moving on the high ground)
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« Reply #694 on: June 13, 2023, 02:57:40 am »

I find It hilarious that vatnik became an international meme. I was there, in the early 2010s, when the original Sponge Bob inspired meme was born.

What was the meme?
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« Reply #695 on: June 13, 2023, 03:06:24 am »

Guess I'm also behind the times as I don't know what a vatnik is.
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« Reply #696 on: June 13, 2023, 03:36:11 am »

Guess I'm also behind the times as I don't know what a vatnik is.
Slang term for a Putin supporter/"z-ombie". The meme originated from a character someone created who was a personified jacket (ватник) who spouted pro-Russian propaganda. iirc
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« Reply #697 on: June 13, 2023, 06:51:59 am »

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian offensive is slowly crawling forward. So far, there have been no major breakthroughs only a methodical relentless push against enemy fortified positions.


Feels a bit disappointing, but I think that's just in the face of last year's counteroffensive where the Russian frontline completely collapsed.
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« Reply #698 on: June 13, 2023, 07:31:07 am »

I have been explaining for months that it was a one off, and that people should crub their expectations about major collapse lined at least for now.
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« Reply #699 on: June 13, 2023, 08:05:08 am »

The advance will be slow... until it won't be. Many new brigades are still in reserves (For example, we have seen only new brigades armed with Leopard 2s and Bradleys, no Challenger 2s or Marders yet) and Russia's rear is getting pounded with cruise missiles and HIMARSes. In one such strike they reportedly (according to some Russian sources) lost a major general.

I see this as an initial stage, probing for weaknesses to pour reserves in for a decisive strike.
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« Reply #700 on: June 13, 2023, 09:52:56 am »

That's how offensives tend to work. Even with ludicrously good intelligence, the only sure way to find the weak points in the line is to shove your face into it. The breakout after D-Day is a pretty good historical example - weeks of grinding progress measured in hedgerows, then suddenly you're having to stall your own attack to allow the Free French forces to symbolically liberate Paris.

For that matter, the lighting offensive last year started exactly the same way. Ukraine ground away at two fronts, until one front suddenly collapsed.
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« Reply #701 on: June 13, 2023, 02:44:38 pm »

[...] they reportedly [...] lost a major general.

♪♪He was the very model of a Russian Major-Guneral,
All destined to get plaudits, with some medals, then a funeral.
Obeyed the King In Kremlin, and he fought the fights Ukrainian
From Mariupol to Bakhmutka, with drones that were Iranian.
Was very well acquainted, too, with matters of the Wagner lot,
He understood their prison-troopers both were simple and inclined to rot.
About the front-line stalemate, he was woeful with the lack of news...
...but still he spun the facts around the needs of Moscow's vatnik views!♪♪

(I'll stop there..! )
« Last Edit: June 13, 2023, 02:48:01 pm by Starver »
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« Reply #702 on: June 13, 2023, 04:46:29 pm »

Curious how many versions of that there are now...

Googled it, found this twitter post: https://twitter.com/AndrejNkv/status/1507365192405073920

I am the very model of a Russian Major General
My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal

I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several
My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal
I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can
It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan

My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there
I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air
But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral
I am the very model of a Russian Major General

EDIT: And another version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyd1Zw8M69M&ab_channel=PatrickFitzgerald

I am the very model of a modern Russian General
I've spent the funds intended for my troops on things quite farcical
Like yachts and properties with fancy features architectural
It's just what is expected when your life is Oligarchical

My soldiers end up walking when the tanks they drive run out of fuel
They're running out of rations so they're getting by on eating gruel
It's getting hard for them to hide from everyone Ukrainian
So they have started digging holes and going subterranean

I am the very model of a Russian Major General
My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal

If they find out where I reside they will commence with shootin’ me
So I must find a place to hide that neither they nor Putin see
I think that I could check if Mar-a-Lago has a vacancy
But that won’t work, ‘cause Donald Trump is Russia’s biggest devotee

The final step that I must take to guarantee I persevere:
I’ve just arranged to launch myself into the upper stratosphere
I think that I have finally found the thing that overrode my fear
Is keeping very far away from President Volodymyr
« Last Edit: June 13, 2023, 04:49:30 pm by MorleyDev »
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« Reply #703 on: June 14, 2023, 03:00:39 am »

I like how there are songs being parodied about Russian generals.
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« Reply #704 on: June 14, 2023, 05:41:36 am »

Adam Delimchanov, right hand of Chechen leader Ramzam Kadyrov has been wounded or killed by a missile strike. Ukrainian forces stumbled upon his convoy and opened fire on it.
Ramzam Kadyrov writes on his Telegram channel that 'he is unable to contact his dear brother Delimchanov'.
Funnily enough, he asks the Ukrainian intelligence services to provide him with details and location of the attack.
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