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Re: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Trollbait 2.0
« Reply #225 on: April 03, 2023, 05:50:07 am »

They arrested… some woman as far as I can tell.

Apparently Navalny is involved, from his prison cell. Somehow?
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« Reply #226 on: April 03, 2023, 06:18:56 am »

Strelkov-Girkin may be next. I am amazed that he is still alive.
If he's smart he'll report himself to the ICC in the Hague. At least he'll get life there.

(he was found guilty of the murder of 289 people on flight MH-17 and sentenced to life imprisonment in november 2022)
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Re: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Trollbait 2.0
« Reply #227 on: April 03, 2023, 07:07:40 am »

Yeah, he was from the category of "military bloggers" who are not only fully supporting the war and advocating for genocide but also call Russian generals morons and traitors who should be punished for failures.

Strelkov-Girkin may be next. I am amazed that he is still alive.
Makes one wonder if he was killed by the Russian military. It should be noted that the mil blogger killed was a veteran from Dontesk militia units, not the Russian military itself. Besides tensions between the PMCs and Russian military, there have also been tensions between the Luhansk and Donetsk militias and the Rusisan military units. Considering how the D/L militia units were used as cannon fodder by Russian high command in the 2014-2021 period of the war, it's interesting to see a role reversal:
His platoon was then sent to Donetsk, but without being told that they were to join an assault brigade in the militia of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic. He said the troops had been transferred "without any orders, explanations" and were told to storm villages "without reconnaissance, without communications," or even maps.

The soldier, who described himself as a senior lieutenant, said he and his comrades "do not refuse to complete objectives but only as part of the Russian armed forces"—rather than serving under the Donetsk militia.
He added: "Personnel are dying, this is all that is left of my platoon, of the whole company. It is complete b*******."
There is something truly surreal about the idea that the militias are now more combat ready than Russian units, to the point where the Russian units are being used as cannon fodder by the militia commanders! Either that, or the Russian commanders are just supposing any Russian conscripts assigned to a militia unit can be reported as a Donetsk/Luhansk casualty and not a Russian casualty

One of the “LNR” and “DNR” armies’ tasks is to attack the Ukrainian military’s positions constantly along the “old” line of contact in order to tie down Ukraine’s forces there. This often requires advancing without support from artillery and armored vehicles, both of which are in short supply, leading to heavy losses.

When manpower from the occupied territories eventually ran out, the Russian military began replacing it with draftees from Russia. The result is that their combat capability is now as low as the other units of the Russian army that are being supplemented with draftees, according to Mikhailov.

“Previously, Donetsk and Luhansk draftees were being used as expendable materials; now it’s Russian ones. They can’t fight any other way. If they don’t fundamentally change their approach, which I doubt they will, then the Russian draftees will continue to die like this,” he told iStories.

Matveyev agrees: Russia’s military command will likely continue using Russian draftees to launch assaults on Ukraine’s positions in the Donbas.

Draftees say they’ve been transferred to the “DNR’s” First Slavic Brigade, which is a part of the “People’s Militia.” In a single day, they say, they were divided into “assault brigades” and sent “to the slaughter” — to storm Ukrainian positions in Avdiivka. Anyone who refuses to join the “assault brigades,” the draftees claim, is “shot from assault rifles and BMPs [infantry fighting vehicle].” They say that one of the battalions from their regiment has been “practically completely destroyed.”
Oh lord, they brought back Stalin's blocker brigades
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« Reply #228 on: April 03, 2023, 07:58:54 am »

There is something truly surreal about the idea that the militias are now more combat ready than Russian units, to the point where the Russian units are being used as cannon fodder by the militia commanders! Either that, or the Russian commanders are just supposing any Russian conscripts assigned to a militia unit can be reported as a Donetsk/Luhansk casualty and not a Russian casualty
The militias have been integrated with the Russian military, following the annexation of the 'republics'. So it wouldn't make sense.
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« Reply #229 on: April 03, 2023, 08:22:49 am »

There is something truly surreal about the idea that the militias are now more combat ready than Russian units, to the point where the Russian units are being used as cannon fodder by the militia commanders! Either that, or the Russian commanders are just supposing any Russian conscripts assigned to a militia unit can be reported as a Donetsk/Luhansk casualty and not a Russian casualty
The militias have been integrated with the Russian military, following the annexation of the 'republics'. So it wouldn't make sense.

While I fail to believe that any independent agency of those "militias" exists, note that this integration is rather virtual. There is strict border control, there are no Russian police or courts (and no serious effort to create them), not that many got an actual Russian passport, etc
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« Reply #230 on: April 03, 2023, 08:26:41 am »

They arrested… some woman as far as I can tell.

Apparently Navalny is involved, from his prison cell. Somehow?

He probably made the statue himself. Somehow.

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« Reply #231 on: April 03, 2023, 09:27:34 am »

It wasn't even a statue, of course. It was clearly both smaller and louder than a sewing-machine...
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« Reply #232 on: April 03, 2023, 01:51:10 pm »

Strelkov-Girkin may be next. I am amazed that he is still alive.

What about Prigozhin, didn't he recently said that he intends to run for president of Ukraine in 2024..
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« Reply #233 on: April 04, 2023, 02:58:17 am »

Seems like there isn't gonna be much left of Russia after all this.
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« Reply #234 on: April 06, 2023, 12:11:06 pm »

Judging by private information I am getting from various sources, something big will start in ~2 weeks. I even have a suspicion about where but won't go into details in a public conversation

Also, Bakhmut, amazingly, holds. Even if Ukraine is controlling like 40% of it
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« Reply #235 on: April 06, 2023, 02:48:05 pm »

There's been a great deal of speculation about if (or when) Ukraine will launch a counter-offensive with publicly available information

Border of Steel is one of eight new storm brigades totalling 40,000 soldiers that Ukraine wants to use during a counter-offensive against Russian occupiers in coming weeks or months. The units have benefited from an aggressive recruiting campaign on social media and billboards with the aim of attracting highly motivated volunteers. The new brigades, drafted by the Interior Ministry, will fight alongside regular army units bolstered by new Western battle tanks and thousands of fresh troops trained by allied armies outside Ukraine. Interior Minister Ihor Klymenko told Reuters he believed Ukraine still had considerable mobilisation potential and that his recruits included women, people with no military experience and former police officers and servicemen.
Well-equipped, well-led, well-motivated volunteer troops can have an overall effect well in excess of what linear numbers would indicate possible. Conversely, the Russian military bloggers complain about how the Russian high command has taken what few combat ready brigades Russia had left/reconstituted and broken them on the anvil of Bakhmut for no strategic gain. Obviously the bloggers may just be wrong/spreading disinformation but public information does corroborate two things - that Russia did send some of its best in Bakhmut, and that it did suffer horrendous losses

The battle over the ruined city of Bakhmut is pinning down Russia's best units and degrading them ahead of a planned Ukrainian counter-offensive, an adviser to Volodymyr Zelensky has said.
Mykhailo Podolyak said Ukraine has decided to fight on in the small easten town, the site of the war's bloodiest battle as Moscow tries to secure its first victory in more than half a year.

"Russia has changed tactics," Mr Podolyak told Italy's La Stampa newspaper. "It has converged on Bakhmut with a large part of its trained military personnel, the remnants of its professional army, as well as the private companies."
"We, therefore, have two objectives: to reduce their capable personnel as much as possible, and to fix them in a few key wearisome battles, to disrupt their offensive and concentrate our resources elsewhere, for the spring counter-offensive."

Russia has made Bakhmut the main target of a winter offensive involving hundreds of thousands of reservists and mercenaries. It has succeeded in capturing the eastern part of the city and the outskirts to the north and south, but has so far failed to close a ring around Ukrainian defenders there.
In the best case scenario, Russia's best remaining combat ready brigades are broken. But it's also possible that the casualties fall disproportionately on the mobilised conscripts & wagner's prisoner recruits who were just used to identify weaknesses in suicidal assaults so the actual soldiers could launch attacks with less casualties

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« Reply #236 on: April 10, 2023, 06:33:44 pm »

Has anyone seen the hilarious news of US intelligence on Russia being leaked on Thug Shaker Central and Wow_Mao's discord? Both are shitposting discords, and I just find it peak clown world that Russia and Ukraine may have to modify their warplans because now everyone knows what the other side knows because it got leaked on an African-American gay porn shitposting discord

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« Reply #237 on: April 10, 2023, 06:43:49 pm »

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« Reply #238 on: April 10, 2023, 08:12:52 pm »

Has anyone seen the hilarious news of US intelligence on Russia being leaked on Thug Shaker Central and Wow_Mao's discord? Both are shitposting discords, and I just find it peak clown world that Russia and Ukraine may have to modify their warplans because now everyone knows what the other side knows because it got leaked on an African-American gay porn shitposting discord
Even more hilarious: It was probably leaked by some white male ultra-conservative Republican religious zealot.

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« Reply #239 on: April 11, 2023, 12:22:43 am »

Has anyone seen the hilarious news of US intelligence on Russia being leaked on Thug Shaker Central and Wow_Mao's discord? Both are shitposting discords, and I just find it peak clown world that Russia and Ukraine may have to modify their warplans because now everyone knows what the other side knows because it got leaked on an African-American gay porn shitposting discord
I am curious do you have link? (for the documents not the other stuff)
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