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Author Topic: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Trollbait 2.0  (Read 209321 times)

Madman198237

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« Reply #810 on: June 23, 2023, 10:50:56 pm »

Boy it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the next 24 hours or so.
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« Reply #811 on: June 23, 2023, 10:55:17 pm »

Prigozhin gets arrested and falls out of a window, probably.
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« Reply #812 on: June 23, 2023, 10:56:07 pm »

Wouldn't be surprised if he resists to the death honestly. Seems preferable to being captured by Russia particularly in this situation.
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« Reply #813 on: June 23, 2023, 11:08:39 pm »

Boy it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the next 24 hours or so.
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« Reply #814 on: June 23, 2023, 11:37:53 pm »

There are unconfirmed reports of clashes in Rostov and shot down helicopters of the Russian army.


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« Reply #815 on: June 24, 2023, 12:11:01 am »

Dancing to some sick beats while my country is likely going to burn soon.
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« Reply #816 on: June 24, 2023, 12:53:58 am »

I wonder if there are any nuclear silos near by.. Wagner as Nuclear power is not a good idea
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« Reply #817 on: June 24, 2023, 01:03:11 am »

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I'n drunk;
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« Reply #818 on: June 24, 2023, 01:05:18 am »

Russia's nuclear arsenal is at sea, in secure silos in the far East of the country, or (for the mobile units) secured by well-armed loyal troops. They have to be secured this way just to make sure they don't wind up on the international black market, something that Russia has good reason to be afraid of because nuclear weapons are extremely traceable. There's pretty much no real chance for Wagner to take any.

Nuclear weapons also aren't something you can fully get control of just by taking physical possession, even in the unlikely event they manage to get their hands on them. Anybody who's making warheads beyond extremely crude first-generation devices includes safeguards that will take considerable time to bypass. This is something that you pretty much have to do to prevent the things from going off by accident.


Whatever this is, nuclear forces aren't likely to come into it. Especially since Putin's been suspiciously silent the entire time, with only a probably pre-recorderd holiday video being released. That's very abnormal for a Strongman in these kinds of situations - Hitler was on the radio issuing orders and asserting control within six hours of being bombed when VALKYRIE went down.
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« Reply #819 on: June 24, 2023, 01:37:16 am »

Double-posting, but Wagner claims to have taken Voronezh. That's halfway to Moscow from Rostov, and there's not that much between there and Moscow.
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« Reply #820 on: June 24, 2023, 01:40:44 am »

Kyiv Moscow in 3 days

But I don't want this, I want a long, high-scoring match in which both teams will have fun. The possibility of a quick Wagner's victory worries me.
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« Reply #821 on: June 24, 2023, 01:57:17 am »

Yeah I hope they slog it out because it means there's a chance at an actual third option showing up because let's be honest... we have an expression, ебала жаба гадюку. "The toad fucked the viper".
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« Reply #822 on: June 24, 2023, 02:18:35 am »

Your bets, ladies and gentlemen?

I expect Moscow to fall before Monday
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« Reply #823 on: June 24, 2023, 02:26:12 am »

Whoever wins, I predict one or both sides will forget they're not in Ukraine anymore and thus continue the indiscriminate attacks on civilians out of sheer force of habit.
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« Reply #824 on: June 24, 2023, 02:36:06 am »

The best case scenario for everybody outside Russia is that neither Wagner or the Government Forces manage to win quickly. That would pretty much cut the frontline off entirely even if it didn't result in one side or the other trying to pull forces in from the front to handle the domestic war.

Inside Russia, a clean win for either side would save a lot of pain.
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